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Post by timholycross on Jul 8, 2023 20:06:06 GMT -5
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Post by princetoncrusader on Jul 8, 2023 20:26:27 GMT -5
Wow this is a stunning story. As an NU degree holder, I have followed the program to a limited extent including attending the Wildcat's appearance at Rutgers in 2018. Coach Fitz, who makes $5.3mm per the last Form 990 I saw, always projected an image of integrity and high academic standards. It will be very interesting to see how NU's new president handles this situation.
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Post by timholycross on Jul 9, 2023 8:51:49 GMT -5
The coach seems to be using a Pitino defense; i.e., he didn't know about it.
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Post by joutsHC77 on Jul 9, 2023 12:48:29 GMT -5
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 9, 2023 16:10:54 GMT -5
Why is the student paper reporting this first over all the national outlets??? Just interesting ESPN, The Athletic, the Chicago papers were not on this story before the student paper?
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 9, 2023 19:36:21 GMT -5
Wow this is a stunning story. As an NU degree holder, I have followed the program to a limited extent including attending the Wildcat's appearance at Rutgers in 2018. Coach Fitz, who makes $5.3mm per the last Form 990 I saw, always projected an image of integrity and high academic standards. It will be very interesting to see how NU's new president handles this situation. NU gets the bigger fool award by paying 5.3mm for a football coach who led the team to last place. They'd be better off getting an up and comer at a sane salary like HC has done and keep their powder dry to extend coaches who prove they can win in the Big Ten at NU. That article was very gross. I hope the Sergeant Shultz defense doesn't work for Fitzy.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 9, 2023 20:18:06 GMT -5
Wow this is a stunning story. As an NU degree holder, I have followed the program to a limited extent including attending the Wildcat's appearance at Rutgers in 2018. Coach Fitz, who makes $5.3mm per the last Form 990 I saw, always projected an image of integrity and high academic standards. It will be very interesting to see how NU's new president handles this situation. NU gets the bigger fool award by paying 5.3mm for a football coach who led the team to last place. They'd be better off getting an up and comer at a sane salary like HC has done and keep their powder dry to extend coaches who prove they can win in the Big Ten at NU. That article was very gross. I hope the Sergeant Shultz defense doesn't work for Fitzy. Fitzgerald according to this year old article is about middle of the pack in salary for Big Ten football saturdaytradition.com/big-ten-football/pay-grade-rating-big-ten-football-coaching-salaries/
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 10, 2023 10:31:12 GMT -5
For bottom dwelling teams, I like a "prove it" contract that is back loaded with incentives or the promise of an extension commensurate with performance.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 10, 2023 12:14:33 GMT -5
For bottom dwelling teams, I like a "prove it" contract that is back loaded with incentives or the promise of an extension commensurate with performance. Fitzgerald has a .548 winning percentage at NU as he started in 2006. That is the best for a NU head coach since Dick Hanley who coached the Wildcats in 1927-1934. Fitzgerald has coached the Wildcats in 10 out of the schools 16 bowl games.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jul 10, 2023 12:19:20 GMT -5
Fitzgerald has done a better job at Northwestern than Ara Parseghian did.
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Post by princetoncrusader on Jul 10, 2023 12:22:56 GMT -5
He also won two Big 10 West titles in recent years. As for his compensation, there were reports that the Bears were interested, and he used that as leverage to get a significant boost from his previous deal, which I believe was approximately $3.3mm per year. NU is a tough place to win even with the new indoor facility courtesy of Mr. Ryan, a great philanthropist Last year, a record four Wildcats were picked in the NFL draft. Fitz is a quality coach, but it looks like he had his head in the sand, perhaps not too dissimilar to the late Joe Paterno.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jul 10, 2023 12:32:37 GMT -5
He also won two Big 10 West titles in recent years. As for his compensation, there were reports that the Bears were interested, and he used that as leverage to get a significant boost from his previous deal, which I believe was approximately $3.3mm per year. NU is a tough place to win even with the new indoor facility courtesy of Mr. Ryan, a great philanthropist Last year, a record four Wildcats were picked in the NFL draft. Fitz is a quality coach, but it looks like he had his head in the sand, perhaps not too dissimilar to the late Joe Paterno. Northwestern has gone 4-20 (2-16 in the Big Ten) the past two seasons. While Fitzgerald has done a great job with this program (on the field), could be time for a new leader. If Derrick Gragg is looking to go in another direction, now is obviously the time to do it...and he might even be able to avoid paying Fitzgerald a bunch of that money. I don't buy for one minute that Fitzgerald didn't know of this hazing (even if it has been blown a bit out of proportion, by some accounts). College football coaches are control and detail freaks. You're telling me something like this didn't find its way to him?
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 10, 2023 13:56:27 GMT -5
For bottom dwelling teams, I like a "prove it" contract that is back loaded with incentives or the promise of an extension commensurate with performance. Fitzgerald has a .548 winning percentage at NU as he started in 2006. That is the best for a NU head coach since Dick Hanley who coached the Wildcats in 1927-1934. Fitzgerald has coached the Wildcats in 10 out of the schools 16 bowl games. I just looked at last season's Big Ten standings. My bad. Still time for a house cleaning if there is any truth to that article.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 10, 2023 18:12:41 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 10, 2023 18:19:59 GMT -5
Good riddance. Anyone want to guess what Bill Carmody's reaction to this is? BTW Northwestern, the little triangle bordered by routes 290, 146 and 20 is off limits when you start your nationwide search. Better to promote one of your coordinators.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 10, 2023 18:37:58 GMT -5
Good riddance. Anyone want to guess what Bill Carmody's reaction to this is? BTW Northwestern, the little triangle bordered by routes 290, 146 and 20 is off limits when you start your nationwide search. Better to promote one of your coordinators. When was the last time a FCS coach went directly into a FBS power 5 job?
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jul 10, 2023 19:18:54 GMT -5
Good riddance. Anyone want to guess what Bill Carmody's reaction to this is? BTW Northwestern, the little triangle bordered by routes 290, 146 and 20 is off limits when you start your nationwide search. Better to promote one of your coordinators. When was the last time a FCS coach went directly into a FBS power 5 job? Harbaugh? If Hafley goes below .500 this year, you better believe Chesney is a top candidate for BC.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 10, 2023 21:16:32 GMT -5
When was the last time a FCS coach went directly into a FBS power 5 job? Harbaugh? If Hafley goes below .500 this year, you better believe Chesney is a top candidate for BC. And he was a former NFL QB, NFL Assistant, before taking the San Diego job. He took the Stanford gig 16 years ago now.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jul 10, 2023 21:50:51 GMT -5
Chris Klieman — NDSU to Kansas State probably the most recent.
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Post by bison137 on Jul 13, 2023 19:35:25 GMT -5
Northwestern has now fired their baseball coach, Jim, Foster, who was the Army head coach for about six years previously. He supposedly “engaged in bullying and abusive behavior,"
Radio station 670 The Score in Chicago reported that “ Foster discouraged players from seeking medical attention for injuries and that players hid their injuries from him.”
He did not have a good reputation at army when it comes to issues like the above, so I’m not surprised.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jul 13, 2023 19:38:07 GMT -5
Derrick Gragg needs to be fired, right?
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 14, 2023 7:19:22 GMT -5
Derrick Gragg needs to be fired, right? More so for this part
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 14, 2023 8:17:01 GMT -5
Perhaps a question for our esteemed lawyers on the board, while we don't approve of bullying, is that illegal? Is it not somewhat subjective? Depending on any contract wording, is it an offense someone can be fired for (assuming not a contract at will: "In the most basic sense, at-will employment means that an employer can terminate an employee for almost any reason — although a few exceptions to the rule may exist under state and federal law. Likewise, under the at-will employment doctrine, an employee can decide to leave their employer whenever they want at their own discretion.")?
Same for "abusive behavior." Subjective? Would a termination beg a legal ruling?
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Post by Tom on Jul 14, 2023 8:19:44 GMT -5
I want more information than "bullying and abusive behavior" before I get wound up at a coach. On some level, I think it's expected. I suppose it comes down to your definition of bullying and abusive behavior. Screaming at a kid that isn't hustling doesn't fit my definition. It would fit some people's definition. Josh Sankes' coach at Rutgers does meet my definition.
Sometimes I will stand for a level of bullying if it helps prepare someone for the harsh realities of the world we live in. That's why I need specifics on a given situation before passing judgement
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Post by purplehaze on Jul 14, 2023 9:20:32 GMT -5
Wow ! never thought I'd see two coaches from a prestigious univ fired for hazing in one week. Looks like Foster was trying some 'no-nonsense / in your face' West Point type discipline at the wrong place. I read an article that some of his asst coaches actually quit during the season (10-40 record)
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