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Post by 78purple on Jan 5, 2024 12:19:55 GMT -5
And don’t underestimate Massachusetts football. The Michigan team has 9 players on it with Massachusetts roots hc80 Brower is a great get for us. Not only is he respected by the Mass coaches community but I've heard the Mass high school players who've met him really like him (want to play for him.) That's a big deal. I'm very impressed with the new staff. Coach Curran is off to a great start. The one take away about every single new coach, THEY ARE GREAT RECRUITERS!! Bodes well for the future. Agree...Massachusetts may not be Florida or Texas, but it is certainly top 10........this is a huge get if it enhances our ability to keep these kids close to home
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Post by southernsader on Jan 5, 2024 12:38:54 GMT -5
hc80 Brower is a great get for us. Not only is he respected by the Mass coaches community but I've heard the Mass high school players who've met him really like him (want to play for him.) That's a big deal. I'm very impressed with the new staff. Coach Curran is off to a great start. The one take away about every single new coach, THEY ARE GREAT RECRUITERS!! Bodes well for the future. Agree...Massachusetts may not be Florida or Texas, but it is certainly top 10........this is a huge get if it enhances our ability to keep these kids close to home It is also not Georgia, California, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Illinois, Michigan, Virginia, New Jersey or North Carolina, so certainly not top 10.
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Post by hc17 on Jan 5, 2024 12:46:47 GMT -5
To date, Curran has assembled an experienced staff with strong ties & familiarity with the New England Football scene with many of our new coaches having spent time at Merrimack & Maine. Additionally, he's added 2 coaches from Don Brown's UMass. Both have spent time coaching high school football in Mass & one (Brower) built an absolute powerhouse at Springfield Central before jumping to the UMass staff. We know Curran & his staff at Merrimack has recruited the DMV incredibly well. The retention & elevation of Vaganek, who has recruited North Jersey so well over the past few years, is significant for this program. We can see Coach Curran's intentions here.....recruit the backyard & build/maintain a talent pipeline up and down the Northeast corridor.
The recruiting potential + the player development track record is enticing. Curran has a track record of developing guys to get to the next level despite limited resources at Merrimack....Oh, we also retained Grautski....I'm optimistic about this program and the early signs we've been able to see so far.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 5, 2024 14:14:25 GMT -5
We've looked at this many times from many angles--Massachusetts is our home state and we may have some advantages in attracting local student-athletes, but Mass is not a football hot bed. One site I found had Massachusetts ranked #35 in the percentage of HS players who went on to play FBS football.
Here's a look at how many "Blue Chip" players each of three states produced each year from 2015 to 2019
Massachusetts= 0---0---0---2---0 New York= 1---0---1---2---2 New Jersey= 7---8---5---9---8
Let's get all the great MA kids we can get but let's concentrate on NJ and other more productive states. Of course, FL, TX, GA are among the strogest producers
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Post by hc17 on Jan 5, 2024 14:33:30 GMT -5
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Post by hc1996 on Jan 5, 2024 14:45:19 GMT -5
We're not getting any players who have high FBS offers to stay in MA and play for HC. The best we can hope for is keeping a MA kid from going to UConn or UMass. And, if we can outrecruit the local kids who are looking at UNH and URI, we can do really well.
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Post by hc17 on Jan 5, 2024 14:46:26 GMT -5
We're not getting any players who have high FBS offers to stay in MA and play for HC. The best we can hope for is keeping a MA kid from going to UConn or UMass. And, if we can outrecruit the local kids who are looking at UNH and URI, we can do really well. Bingo!
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 5, 2024 14:50:44 GMT -5
Well, looking at the staff on the HC website, it still shows FHCBC's staff and no head coach (on January 5, 2024). I wonder when that staff roster will be updated.
This does not make HC look good, even though we seem to now have a good staff and head coach. It might be nice if we let anyone know it. If this is not important, take the staff information off of the website. After all some of these poeple are now listed as staff at other colleges. If it is important who they are and that people know it (and I believe it is) then get this UP TO DATE.
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Post by mm67 on Jan 5, 2024 15:05:33 GMT -5
Past complaints have been that the Athletics Department is run like a ma'& pa' grocery store instead of a modern, efficient college department. Holiday vacation time is no excuse. HC needs to get the job done. Our new highly valued coaches and the rest of us deserve no less. Update the website, Now.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jan 5, 2024 15:08:57 GMT -5
We've looked at this many times from many angles--Massachusetts is our home state and we may have some advantages in attracting local student-athletes, but Mass is not a football hot bed. One site I found had Massachusetts ranked #35 in the percentage of HS players who went on to play FBS football. Here's a look at how many "Blue Chip" players each of three states produced each year from 2015 to 2019 Massachusetts= 0---0---0---2---0 New York= 1---0---1---2---2 New Jersey= 7---8---5---9---8 Let's get all the great MA kids we can get but let's concentrate on NJ and other more productive states. Of course, FL, TX, GA are among the strogest producers Mass high school football has gotten a lot better in recent years. We need to be recruiting our own state better. I'm interested to see if we recruit the DMV heavily. As we know, Merrimack had a lot of players from this region.
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Post by drjack on Jan 5, 2024 15:18:44 GMT -5
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Post by Ignutz on Jan 5, 2024 15:39:16 GMT -5
Well, looking at the staff on the HC website, it still shows FHCBC's staff and no head coach (on January 5, 2024). I wonder when that staff roster will be updated. This does not make HC look good, even though we seem to now have a good staff and head coach. It might be nice if we let anyone know it. If this is not important, take the staff information off of the website. After all some of these poeple are now listed as staff at other colleges. If it is important who they are and that people know it (and I believe it is) then get this UP TO DATE. I believe that the situation is similar on the JMU website - except for them having BC's info posted.
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Post by dharry13 on Jan 5, 2024 15:52:23 GMT -5
Agree...Massachusetts may not be Florida or Texas, but it is certainly top 10........this is a huge get if it enhances our ability to keep these kids close to home It is also not Georgia, California, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Illinois, Michigan, Virginia, New Jersey or North Carolina, so certainly not top 10. We won't get kids from CA and haven't really from GA and NC so moot point in my opinion. Have to get good players from your own back yard. With the ISL, and a strong Catholic conference HC should be doing better there.
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Post by dharry13 on Jan 5, 2024 15:54:43 GMT -5
Well, looking at the staff on the HC website, it still shows FHCBC's staff and no head coach (on January 5, 2024). I wonder when that staff roster will be updated. This does not make HC look good, even though we seem to now have a good staff and head coach. It might be nice if we let anyone know it. If this is not important, take the staff information off of the website. After all some of these poeple are now listed as staff at other colleges. If it is important who they are and that people know it (and I believe it is) then get this UP TO DATE. Don't hold your breath on this. Updating the website is the last thing they do. It's been a point of contention for a while regarding both coaches and players.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 5, 2024 15:57:52 GMT -5
Well, looking at the staff on the HC website, it still shows FHCBC's staff and no head coach (on January 5, 2024). I wonder when that staff roster will be updated. This does not make HC look good, even though we seem to now have a good staff and head coach. It might be nice if we let anyone know it. If this is not important, take the staff information off of the website. After all some of these poeple are now listed as staff at other colleges. If it is important who they are and that people know it (and I believe it is) then get this UP TO DATE. I believe that the situation is similar on the JMU website - except for them having BC's info posted. Well, JMU has a head coach listed on the staff roster and HC does not. I am afraid that is not similar. HC also lists staff that are now on the JMU site (where they are actually working). HC CAN AND MUST DO BETTER.
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 5, 2024 16:10:49 GMT -5
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Post by mm67 on Jan 5, 2024 16:31:23 GMT -5
On the one hand some understandably keep calling for HC to have a larger national footprint. After all HC is not merely a provincial Mass. college. It is a national liberal arts college.Yet on the other hand some are calling on HC football to more closely focus on Mass talent. Doesn't this serve to limit our identity to Mass? Wouldn't getting student-athletes from across the breadth & width of these 50 beautiful United States help to build our national brand? If I had to focus on one state which I wouldn't do, clearly NJ, NJ Penn are the tops.
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Post by newfieguy74 on Jan 5, 2024 16:42:21 GMT -5
I just went to the football roster on the athletics web site and all coaches have been removed, which suggests to me they're in the process of putting the new staff up there.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 5, 2024 17:39:08 GMT -5
Correct Newfieguy - The staff (mostly BC's staff) was taken down this afternoon - finally. I hope they are in the process of updating it to show the current HC coaches. I wonder if this Crossports discussion played any role in this?
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Post by football44 on Jan 5, 2024 18:08:13 GMT -5
Correct Newfieguy - The staff (mostly BC's staff) was taken down this afternoon - finally. I hope they are in the process of updating it to show the current HC coaches. I wonder if this Crossports discussion played any role in this? No crosssports discussion had nothing to do with the start of the changes. They have a process in place to announce all the coaches. Sit back and wait for the whole staff to be introduced.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 5, 2024 18:30:23 GMT -5
So every crosports discussion had something to do with the start? Double negatives always throw me. If there was a process in place and it had been started, how could they still have had BC's departed coaches up this morning? I would think that would have been item number one in the change over...but that may just be me. I am sure there are folks who have greater tolerance with letting updating slide and allowing HC to look inept.
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Post by football44 on Jan 5, 2024 18:39:36 GMT -5
So every crosports discussion had something to do with the start? Double negatives always throw me. If there was a process in place and it had been started, how could they still have had BC's fdearted coaches up this morning? I would think that would have been item number one in the change over...but that may just be me. I am sure there are folks who have greater tolerance with letting updating slide and allowing HC to look inept. Rgs is there a game this weekend where you have to know right now who the position coaches are going forward? Give the new coach time to set up his new staff. Do you remember when you got a new job and you had to go fill out paperwork at the HR Department? There might be some of that going on as well. Being organized does not make you inept.
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Post by cruskater31 on Jan 5, 2024 18:41:47 GMT -5
It is also not Georgia, California, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Illinois, Michigan, Virginia, New Jersey or North Carolina, so certainly not top 10. We won't get kids from CA and haven't really from GA and NC so moot point in my opinion. Have to get good players from your own back yard. With the ISL, and a strong Catholic conference HC should be doing better there. at my own school, I've long lamented the fact that our best players are too good for HC (P5) and our other starters were potentially not good enough (D3 and lower FCS). Always some Ivy guys though so why not HC! Seems like the problem with some of the perennial powers in the MIAA, ISL, and Founders is that their elite players are FBS calibre and the other starters are looking NEC and NESCAC. Don't sleep on the CT boarding schools. Plenty of talent there and while the best players might go P5, they have a ton of depth.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 5, 2024 19:25:59 GMT -5
So every crosports discussion had something to do with the start? Double negatives always throw me. If there was a process in place and it had been started, how could they still have had BC's departed coaches up this morning as HC staff? I would think that would have been item number one in the change over...but that may just be me. I am sure there are folks who have greater tolerance with letting updating slide and allowing HC to look inept. Rgs is there a game this weekend where you have to know right now who the position coaches are going forward? Give the new coach time to set up his new staff. Do you remember when you got a new job and you had to go fill out paperwork at the HR Department? There might be some of that going on as well. Being organized does not make you inept. 1. There is obviously no game this weekend as the football season is over. As a fan I want to know ASAP about key changes. I was basing my concern on the statement by the coach that we would know who was on the staff in a couple of weeks...that was over a month ago. All we seemed to hear about was the names of coaches who were leaving. 2. Not sure how this applies, but when I got a new job the paperwork was done on day one...and I had my name off of all the publications of my former employer before that. Are you saying it is the HR department at HC that is disorganized? 3. Is letting inaccurate information about our football coaching staff, when recruits are being courted, really what you call "organized?" In what world would that be the case? I stick by my statement that letting inaccurate information sit there unchanged is not a sign of organization and does make HC look inept. That is old news and has been mentioned by others for some time now.
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Post by dharry13 on Jan 5, 2024 19:58:53 GMT -5
Guys we know the staff. If there are questions ask. I’ll help you out.
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