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Post by 78purple on Jan 5, 2024 21:43:07 GMT -5
wonder if this will influence Sluka's decision
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jan 5, 2024 23:55:33 GMT -5
Well, looking at the staff on the HC website, it still shows FHCBC's staff and no head coach (on January 5, 2024). I wonder when that staff roster will be updated.
This does not make HC look good, even though we seem to now have a good staff and head coach. It might be nice if we let anyone know it. If this is not important, take the staff information off of the website. After all some of these poeple are now listed as staff at other colleges. If it is important who they are and that people know it (and I believe it is) then get this UP TO DATE. The roster you are currently viewing is of the 2023 team. The new staff roster, as well as a list of returning players as well as players who will enroll from the portal will be displayed on the 2024 spring roster. Which will then be replaced by the 2024 fall roster in August. I would not expect to see any further changes to the 2023 roster, as it reflects the team that was in place last fall. As of this evening all of the coaches that were members of FHCBC staff are no longer listed on the 2023 roster. This may be a temporary removal as they should be shown for historical purpose regarding the staff and their assignments for HC football last fall. As of this evening, under the More tab of the roster, Head Coach Dan Curran bio is listed. He is the only current coach whose bio is listed. I would expect the 2024 spring roster to be displayed once the second semester has begun and enrollment is finalized.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 6, 2024 0:32:35 GMT -5
I believe that the situation is similar on the JMU website - except for them having BC's info posted. Well, JMU has a head coach listed on the staff roster and HC does not. I am afraid that is not similar. HC also lists staff that are now on the JMU site (where they are actually working). HC CAN AND MUST DO BETTER. One is a FCS program playing in the Patriot League and the other is a FBS program with much better resources (aka STAFF) to update the website.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Jan 6, 2024 2:01:03 GMT -5
One is a state funded school with over 20,000 undergraduate students, an endowment of 157 million, with only six sports for men…. Basketball, Football, Baseball, Soccer, Golf, Tennis. Staff has fewer sports to support year around, as well as the ability for a larger pool of student interns to provide support. JMU has two,staff members assigned to communications for football. As mentioned, the HC football website is constantly being updated. Was updated on 1/5/24. Not an issue for me. Once the second semester begins, and second semester enrollment is finalized, the spring semester roster will be published with the inclusion of the new staff. There are larger fish to fry….. JMU has not updated their 2023 football roster website as of this evening with the football coaches that have been added to staff, i. e, Dimike, Kennedy, Canaan, etc. I would expect to see them on the 2024 spring roster, not the 2023 roster. jmusports.com/sports/football/roster
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Post by football44 on Jan 6, 2024 7:03:47 GMT -5
Thank you Crucis for your in depth explanation of what the process is on the hill and in the football office. Keep the updates flowing.
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Post by drjack on Jan 6, 2024 7:34:55 GMT -5
So the New England Football Journal picked up on us getting Brower. I'm guessing John and Coach Brower have some connections and he mentioned it. First time I can remember a non Kevin Gehl leak.
But I wouldn't worry about the announcements, they'll come out in due time.
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 6, 2024 7:54:20 GMT -5
Let's talk about the elephant in the room: Holy Cross has been notoriously bad at any communications that requires even minimal use of technology. This goes beyond the athletics department but they are certainly included in this criticism. I won't go into all the reasons that I get/should get communications from Holy Cross but they are many and varied. Not frequently, but on multiple occasions, my notification of an event that I am supposed to be involved in doesn't get sent to me (and no, the 'usual suspect,' spam filter, is not the issue - ever). With some frequency, another who received the communication asks me why I hadn't responded to a request for my feedback or whether I am going to attend a meeting. Had it not been for these third party participants, I would have missed the invited meeting. This breakdown of communications is something that Holy Cross staff knows all too well. I always get a full throated apology but it seems to be an issue that encompasses all departments and somehow seems to be unsolvable. Don't know why but assume it's not simple or it would have been done years ago. That said, I have personally posted here notifications of at least two assistant positions that have been announced on the HC football website that as far as I knew was not previously posted. I don't routinely check the athletics website as some here do. I also do not and will never subscribe to Twitter/X, Tik Tok, FaceBook, etc., etc. My "early warning system" for the former is one of my sons (the non-HC alum) who is on X. He sends me information about HC and then I check the HC football website and, voila, the information my son sent me is right there. I wouldn't know otherwise unless someone posted it on Crossports and a little surprised no one that I saw beat me to posting the two I became aware of as so many of you are on Social Media accounts. As a longtime season ticket member and CAF/Gridiron Club member and fringe 90-wide participant, they could certainly put out a communication every time an assistant is named but they've chosen not to do that (or they are and I'm not getting them! ). What has surprised me though is the frequent (daily?) emails that I get for all the ongoing winter sports about tickets, upcoming game schedules. This seems new to me at the frequency. I suppose they could add to these when an assistant hiring is finalized but understand that they likely don't want to dilute the message about the sport(s) that are currently being played (hockey, basketball). While it was said that Dan was hoping and working on getting his staff together quickly so that they could announce it, he also said that he/they were simultaneously working on recruiting in the immediate future. The impression I got was he was like a short order cook, multitasking. Putting out a communication on assistant hires probably doesn't fall on Dan per se. It is what it is. But I don't hold him/them to a general statement about getting his assistants all lined up and communicated. There are more important things than the announcement of each and every assistant hire for a sport that won't be played for months (and football is my favorite and "most important" sport).
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Post by timholycross on Jan 6, 2024 8:38:45 GMT -5
We've looked at this many times from many angles--Massachusetts is our home state and we may have some advantages in attracting local student-athletes, but Mass is not a football hot bed. One site I found had Massachusetts ranked #35 in the percentage of HS players who went on to play FBS football. Here's a look at how many "Blue Chip" players each of three states produced each year from 2015 to 2019 Massachusetts= 0---0---0---2---0 New York= 1---0---1---2---2 New Jersey= 7---8---5---9---8 Let's get all the great MA kids we can get but let's concentrate on NJ and other more productive states. Of course, FL, TX, GA are among the strogest producers Mass high school football has gotten a lot better in recent years. We need to be recruiting our own state better. I'm interested to see if we recruit the DMV heavily. As we know, Merrimack had a lot of players from this region. I agree w/your evaluation of Mass. HS ball to a point. IMO- there is good talent but it has consolidated in a small number of private schools (Suffield, Dexter-Southfield, Rivers, just to name a few); half the Catholic Conference; and a few publics (Spfld Central being the most prominent). From a college recruiting standpoint, this should make talent evaluation a lot easier; not that many stones to overturn.
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Post by drjack on Jan 6, 2024 9:30:02 GMT -5
Jimmy Walsh updated his Twitter bio to show HC safeties coach and recruiting Illinois and Indiana.
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Post by hc17 on Jan 6, 2024 10:31:01 GMT -5
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Post by drjack on Jan 6, 2024 10:50:24 GMT -5
UMass Twitter also confirmed Monteiro.
All we're really waiting on is official titles and recruiting areas, but it seems like we won't have to wait long at this point.
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Post by CHC8485 on Jan 6, 2024 11:12:24 GMT -5
With all the Sturm und Drang about the staff (now 8 pages long!), I decided to check the timeline when Chesney was hired and staff announcement.
Chesney hired: Dec 14 Curran hired: Dec 15
Chesney staff announced: Jan 2 Curran staff announced: Started individually Jan 4 via Twitter & GoHolyCross.com
Chesney Staff CrosSports Speculation Thread: 3+ pages Curran Staff CrosSports Speculation Thread: 7+ pages and counting.
I know Ches raised the bar with interest in the program but several have indicated that the situation is well in hand.
Relax. Breathe. Everything is going to be OK.
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Post by CHC8485 on Jan 6, 2024 11:26:58 GMT -5
Oh and BTW - despite having an additional week to assemble his staff, we’re still waiting on Chesney to announce his staff at JMU.
Why so long? Did JMU hire the right guy???😉
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Post by drjack on Jan 9, 2024 9:57:52 GMT -5
Brower updated his Twitter to Holy Cross DL coach. No mention of recruiting areas that I could see, however.
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Post by dharry13 on Jan 9, 2024 10:23:23 GMT -5
Matt Schell is going to be the Recruiting Coordinator - also coaching the TEs.
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Post by drjack on Jan 9, 2024 10:24:12 GMT -5
Jimmy Walsh also just added Michigan to his recruiting areas.
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Post by drjack on Jan 9, 2024 11:47:04 GMT -5
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Post by southernsader on Jan 9, 2024 12:18:04 GMT -5
Associate Head Coach - up from Assistant Head Coach @ Merrimack - Curran must think very highly of the young man.
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Post by drjack on Jan 9, 2024 12:21:00 GMT -5
Honest question, is there a difference between Associate and Assistant head coach? I kind of always assumed they were the same thing.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 9, 2024 12:23:03 GMT -5
Associate is a step up from assistant (as it is with associate professors being a stop above assistant professors). PS" "assistant to..." is a step (or several steps) below both. It could be another name for what was once called a secretary.
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Post by hc1996 on Jan 9, 2024 13:15:02 GMT -5
Honest question, is there a difference between Associate and Assistant head coach? I kind of always assumed they were the same thing. Not sure if there are fans of The Office here, but Assistant Regional Manager and Assistant to the Regional Manager are very different things.
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Post by mm67 on Jan 9, 2024 13:20:04 GMT -5
Is it accurate to say HC is a great coaching destination?
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Post by southernsader on Jan 9, 2024 13:26:56 GMT -5
Associate is a step up from assistant (as it is with associate professors being a stop above assistant professors). Perfect analogy. And also look no further than our basketball coaches, where Johnson is second in command and outranks Evans and Rawlings.
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Post by drjack on Jan 9, 2024 17:51:28 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 9, 2024 18:03:37 GMT -5
A lateral transfer from a higher rated league, although perhaps not a higher rated program. Good on Holy Cross to provide the resources to get it done and Coach Curran to be known as a good coach to work for to attract experienced staff.
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