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Post by mm67 on Mar 13, 2024 20:47:30 GMT -5
Among Colgate's NFL players were the running backs Marv Hubbard & Mark van Eeghen. Not too shabby. I wouldn't be surprised if there were others. It's not every college which is named after a toothpaste brand. All kidding aside. The'Gate is a great school. I admire it enormously.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 13, 2024 20:57:30 GMT -5
HC has a better mascot and DTs than Penn too Maybe a hot take, but I'm so happy out last logo/mascot got retired. Was cheap and tacky looking. I will whole heartedly support a campaign to bring it back if we can get an actual suit of armor instead of foam, though. He could lurch across the court as fans go wild. The cheerleaders could escort him with little oil cans to keep him mobile.🙂
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Post by hc69 on Mar 13, 2024 21:56:32 GMT -5
Among Colgate's NFL players were the running backs Marv Hubbard & Mark van Eeghen. Not too shabby. I wouldn't be surprised if there were others. It's not every college which is named after a toothpaste brand. All kidding aside. The'Gate is a great school. I admire it enormously. Hubbard and van Eeghen played eight years in the NFL. So did Mark Murphy. The best of the group was Eugene Robinson, who had a 16 year career. He wasn't even drafted. He was an UFA in an era in which it seemed that the NFL draft had about 100 rounds. For us, Cosbie played 10 years and Kozerski 12. We also had Bill Adams and Rob McGovern.
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Post by trimster on Mar 14, 2024 7:22:55 GMT -5
Joe Wilson played with the Bengals and Pats.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Mar 14, 2024 7:33:26 GMT -5
And wasn't Eddie Jenkins on one of the Dolphins' Super Bowl teams?
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Post by timholycross on Mar 14, 2024 7:53:56 GMT -5
I always wondered how Colgate got the players they did in the 1970s and 1980s without technically offering scholarships....multiple guys who went on to the NFL, many tremendous players that beat very good scholarship teams at the time....had to be a LOT of financial aid etc. Ron Perry Sr. thought it was the recruiting skill of Mr. Neil Wheelwright; not sure it was after his tenure in Worcester.
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Post by hc1996 on Mar 14, 2024 8:02:46 GMT -5
I always wondered how Colgate got the players they did in the 1970s and 1980s without technically offering scholarships....multiple guys who went on to the NFL, many tremendous players that beat very good scholarship teams at the time....had to be a LOT of financial aid etc. Ron Perry Sr. thought it was the recruiting skill of Mr. Neil Wheelwright; not sure it was after his tenure in Worcester. Ivy League approach. Full grants for recruited players.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 14, 2024 8:13:34 GMT -5
And wasn't Eddie Jenkins on one of the Dolphins' Super Bowl teams? Eddie was on the undefeated Dolphins team
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Post by hc69 on Mar 14, 2024 9:51:33 GMT -5
Both schools had several players who had a cup of coffee in the NFL.
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Post by hcpride on Mar 14, 2024 10:50:15 GMT -5
I always wondered how Colgate got the players they did in the 1970s and 1980s without technically offering scholarships....multiple guys who went on to the NFL, many tremendous players that beat very good scholarship teams at the time....had to be a LOT of financial aid etc. Speaking of only one of their excellent players, QB Steve Calabria was unknown (and virtually unrecruited) out of a suspect high school program who I’m assuming got some sort of a partial grant-in-aid ((at best) and then developed very quickly as a QB. He stuck with Colgate. Seemed to have the talent level - but maybe stronger arm - of Muldoon. Drafted 9th round.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 14, 2024 12:43:37 GMT -5
And wasn't Eddie Jenkins on one of the Dolphins' Super Bowl teams? Eddie was on the undefeated Dolphins team I think I posted this sometime in the past but Eddie stuck his toe into politics in some way and years ago the Boston Globe or Herald did a nice feature on him in his office. The reporter noted the framed photo of the undefeated Dolohin team on the wall autographed by each player and remarked it was faded due to being in the afternoon sun everyday. I shouted into the paper or screen, "Eddie, get the photo out of the sun, it's priceless!"
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 14, 2024 14:15:39 GMT -5
If we are looking at HC athetes in the pros, don't forget Jack Lentz - defensive back for the Denver Broncos from 1967 to 1968 and for the Montreal Alouettes in 1969.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 14, 2024 14:30:02 GMT -5
Sports-reference.com is a great website for these discussions. For example- you could go to its professional Football data base and look up Jon Morris or Bob Dee or another player you know to be a Crusader. When that player’s page comes up it should list his high school and college-click on either the HS or college and you should be taken to a list of every one from that school who played professionally ball.
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Post by jkh67 on Mar 16, 2024 10:03:00 GMT -5
I always wondered how Colgate got the players they did in the 1970s and 1980s without technically offering scholarships....multiple guys who went on to the NFL, many tremendous players that beat very good scholarship teams at the time....had to be a LOT of financial aid etc. Ron Perry Sr. thought it was the recruiting skill of Mr. Neil Wheelwright; not sure it was after his tenure in Worcester. I vaguely remember some decades ago there was a Massachusetts prep school star running back who went to Colgate, but was denied admission to HC for academic reasons. That was the story, anyway.
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Post by 78purple on Mar 16, 2024 10:58:15 GMT -5
Among Colgate's NFL players were the running backs Marv Hubbard & Mark van Eeghen. Not too shabby. I wouldn't be surprised if there were others. It's not every college which is named after a toothpaste brand. All kidding aside. The'Gate is a great school. I admire it enormously. Hubbard and van Eeghen played eight years in the NFL. So did Mark Murphy. The best of the group was Eugene Robinson, who had a 16 year career. He wasn't even drafted. He was an UFA in an era in which it seemed that the NFL draft had about 100 rounds. For us, Cosbie played 10 years and Kozerski 12. We also had Bill Adams and Rob McGovern. Cosbie left HC after his freshman year, I believe, and completed his college career @ Santa Clara
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Post by purple1 on Mar 16, 2024 14:27:49 GMT -5
You are correct, Kenny Gamble, Colgate tailback, All-American and was National Player of the Year...... a number of players that were Ivy & Patriot League football players over the past 50 years were denied admissions to Holy Cross.
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 16, 2024 17:08:31 GMT -5
Hopefully that has now changed.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 17, 2024 8:06:13 GMT -5
Hubbard and van Eeghen played eight years in the NFL. So did Mark Murphy. The best of the group was Eugene Robinson, who had a 16 year career. He wasn't even drafted. He was an UFA in an era in which it seemed that the NFL draft had about 100 rounds. For us, Cosbie played 10 years and Kozerski 12. We also had Bill Adams and Rob McGovern. Cosbie left HC after his freshman year, I believe, and completed his college career @ Santa Clara Including Cosbie on any list of "Holy Cross players in the NFL" is a stretch. At least Kevin Stacom, for example, actually played significant minutes in games.
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Post by mm67 on Mar 17, 2024 10:07:35 GMT -5
Comparisons are frivolous. But, did any of HC's players match the record of Hubbard & Van Eeghen? Realize positions were different. But these two guys racked up very good numbers and were a prominent fixture in the NFL. Colgate has a fine football tradition as does HC. They are on the way back. I suspect the PL will be a dogfight among the top tier teams. Another HC championship is definitely not a given.
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Post by jkh67 on Mar 17, 2024 11:31:23 GMT -5
Comparisons are frivolous. But, did any of HC's players match the record of Hubbard & Van Eeghen? Realize positions were different. But these two guys racked up very good numbers and were a prominent fixture in the NFL. Colgate has a fine football tradition as does HC. They are on the way back. I suspect the PL will be a dogfight among the top tier teams. Another HC championship is definitely not a given. I never thought I'd say this, but I hope you're right about Colgate being on the way back in football. That would give the PL five potentially decent teams (HC, Fordham, Colgate, Lehigh, and Lafayette) and two perennial weak sisters (Bucknell and Georgetown). Not too bad, all things being considered.
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Post by breezy on Mar 17, 2024 12:01:17 GMT -5
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Post by mm67 on Mar 17, 2024 13:17:22 GMT -5
Wonderful. Brought back memories of time & place before my time but still reminiscent of my youth.The Cornell -Dartmouth game was very famous at the time. I heard the story as a child at home as instructive about good sportsmanship. Would HC do the same as Cornell? I like to think so. Thank you.
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Post by 78purple on Mar 17, 2024 13:55:31 GMT -5
Cosbie left HC after his freshman year, I believe, and completed his college career @ Santa Clara Including Cosbie on any list of "Holy Cross players in the NFL" is a stretch. At least Kevin Stacom, for example, actually played significant minutes in games. I guess that was the point I was making...
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