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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Feb 16, 2017 7:43:09 GMT -5
It's almost as if times have changed, that things are different than they were 30 or 40 or 50 years ago..........
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Post by WorcesterGray on Feb 16, 2017 7:54:14 GMT -5
Pretty much to to a person we are tired of hearing the same broken record from you. Please stop! You might want to consider the blocking option - works wonders, and short of Klingon-style discommendation, probably the best solution.
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Post by unhfan on Feb 16, 2017 8:41:30 GMT -5
Based on past history, geographic ties, institutional history etc etc....Holy Cross is the only D1 school in Central Massachusetts...are you telling me HC wouldn't be a good fit in either league? Yes I am.
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 16, 2017 9:15:36 GMT -5
WooGray, as I have learned, the ignore feature is less than perfect because others quote the person ignored and defeats the purpose.
In addition, 87 makes solid contributions to the board when he isn't on his one-man bandwagon. I would hate to lose the value of his other posts.
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Post by nhteamer on Feb 16, 2017 9:15:52 GMT -5
I think perhaps '87 is bugging many posters not so much because he is repetitive, but that down deep you know that his basic points are right.
We are invisible.
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Post by jkh67 on Feb 16, 2017 9:54:34 GMT -5
I think perhaps '87 is bugging many posters not so much because he is repetitive, but that down deep you know that his basic points are right. We are invisible. I believe most of the posters on this board are old timers like myself who were on the Hill when HC basketball was played at a substantially higher level than today's PL. I know how we all feel about the current situation. But the reality is that few even of us old timers are upset enough to speak out, whether on this board or elsewhere. And if you're a younger alum, you have no personal connection with the supposed "glory days" and probably see basketball's role in the college very differently from us. As for current students, enthusiasm seems less than robust, judging by turn-out at the Hart. That is no doubt due in part to the poor quality of the product in recent years, but other factors are likely at play as well. Bottom line: I just don't see the kind of HC community interest that would almost certainly be necessary to kick start a serious move to a higher level. And, frankly, die-hard though I am, I'm not sure the view would be worth the climb at this point.
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Post by WCHC Sports on Feb 16, 2017 10:06:19 GMT -5
We scored 47 points in a D1 game at home against a team that at the time was eight games below .500.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Feb 16, 2017 10:12:44 GMT -5
We scored 47 points in a D1 game at home against a team that at the time was eight games below .500.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 16, 2017 10:15:39 GMT -5
January 16, 2008: Army 53, Holy Cross 39.
HC finished in last place in the PL this season.
We will get better with better players.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Feb 16, 2017 10:24:24 GMT -5
January 16, 2008: Army 53, Holy Cross 39. HC finished in last place in the PL this season. We will get better with better players. Knew that was coming! Would you rather have Carmody to right the ship or RW? (If it's all about "talent" and "better players" why are we paying Carmody and Joe Scott so much money, and why didn't we hire someone who was a better recruiter?)
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 16, 2017 10:28:31 GMT -5
Probably Willard, but that doesn't mean Carmody is incapable of turning this program around.
We all knew (or at least I did) that this would be a 2-3 year rebuild as there was a dearth of talent on the team when Carm inherited it.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Feb 16, 2017 10:33:03 GMT -5
Probably Willard, but that doesn't mean Carmody is incapable of turning this program around. We all knew (or at least I did) that this would be a 2-3 year rebuild as there was a dearth of talent on the team when Carm inherited it. I don't know if I'd go quite as far as saying that everyone knew it would be a 2-3 year rebuild. If so, I imagine that we would have hired someone with a different profile.
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Post by dadominate on Feb 16, 2017 10:47:23 GMT -5
January 16, 2008: Army 53, Holy Cross 39. HC finished in last place in the PL this season. We will get better with better players. Knew that was coming! Would you rather have Carmody to right the ship or RW? and we all knew this response was coming from you. ralph willard is not an option for us right now. everyone here loved rw and it is a complete non-sequitur to pose such a "choice". sov - and literally everyone else here other than you and hc70 - is on the same page. we're frustrated with the results this year. but your harping on incessantly like a scorned schoolgirl about nathan davis (not a peep from you last night, huh?), kevin willard over and over again last year (again, not a word from you this year), northwestern (who most of us are rooting for because we could care less about your agenda, but again, not a peep last night or after any of their losses), you're seriously like the teacher from charlie brown at this stage.... BLAH, BLAH, BLAH! nobody is listening to you or takes you seriously at this stage. the only thing more frustrating than the on the court struggles is your personally-motivated agenda regarding nate pine and anything he does, such as hiring a well-respected coach who damn near everyone here except for you views as a good hire. he's not perfect and i have had my issues with his performance and allocation of minutes this year, but repeatedly talking about coaches who were not or are not options is a waste of yours and everyone else's time. it's amusing to think of you steaming and stewing over your computer with repetitive posts that convince nobody. but it's equally annoying to read the same thing over and over and over again and your accusations that everyone who disagrees with your extremely biased and bizarre points of view are "clueless", "stupid", "idiotic", etc. ***i hope you also realize that almost everyone on this board is aware of your personal connection to the previous athletic department and we are sick and tired of your continued bull#@*&$~! stemming from that. do us all a favor and get over it.***
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Post by possum on Feb 16, 2017 10:57:43 GMT -5
SOV agree this was not an overly talented team Carmody inherited but as of today his recruiting efforts have made the talent level worse not better. At this point I think you'd have to agree that 4 of his 5 recruits don't look good. A 20 percent hit rate will get you fired quickly. It's imperative that at least 2 of the incoming frosh are impact players quickly and the others are solid contributors. I have high hopes for this class as I can't believe that we would have given out 5 scholarships in a one week period unless we were getting players that the staff evaluated as top targets. If this doesn't turn out to be the case then I think we really need to question the staffs ability to identify talent. Next year is year 3 of the rebuild and absent a Potter/ Vicens type impact from a couple of the freshmen I can't see next year as anything but a rebuilding year. I don't think as some have indicated that Charles, Benzan and Floyd is the nucleus of a good team. Next year will be palatable if the freshmen appear to be building blocks for the future even if the won loss record is not good.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 16, 2017 11:02:41 GMT -5
Carmody's legacy at HC hinges on how good next year's freshmen class is, no doubt about it. I think we have a chance to be a decent team next season, FWIW.
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Post by hc6774 on Feb 16, 2017 12:20:13 GMT -5
SOV agree this was not an overly talented team Carmody inherited but as of today his recruiting efforts have made the talent level worse not better. At this point I think you'd have to agree that 4 of his 5 recruits don't look good. A 20 percent hit rate will get you fired quickly. It's imperative that at least 2 of the incoming frosh are impact players quickly and the others are solid contributors. I have high hopes for this class as I can't believe that we would have given out 5 scholarships in a one week period unless we were getting players that the staff evaluated as top targets. If this doesn't turn out to be the case then I think we really need to question the staffs ability to identify talent. Next year is year 3 of the rebuild and absent a Potter/ Vicens type impact from a couple of the freshmen I can't see next year as anything but a rebuilding year. I don't think as some have indicated that Charles, Benzan and Floyd is the nucleus of a good team. Next year will be palatable if the freshmen appear to be building blocks for the future even if the won loss record is not good. 2 of these are in the same position on this board that PB was in at the end of last season;
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Post by hc80 on Feb 16, 2017 13:06:34 GMT -5
I must admit that I am curious as to status of MZ and JS. How is it that are unable to earn any playing time?
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Post by ncaam on Feb 16, 2017 13:06:48 GMT -5
Carmody's legacy at HC hinges on how good next year's freshmen class is, no doubt about it. I think we have a chance to be a decent team next season, FWIW. What is decent? 15-15?
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Post by rickii on Feb 16, 2017 13:20:07 GMT -5
87 -
If we're not careful, HC is going to have excellent athletic facilities hosting abysmal athletic teams.
So last night I clicked onto the athletic website and saw/read an uplifting story on one of the softball players. Since I don't follow the sport I scrolled down to see a lead story that said HC is picked to finish 6th of 7 in the league. I then looked at the team photo to find some of the most attractive young ladies I've seen of late decked out in VERY sharp unis. They looked better than several big-time programs ! So I asked myself, picked for next to last ?? And then another click to last season's results....a big mistake....AIR, it said something like 6-26. Shocked and saddened, I then looked at the stats....yet another big mistake. The collective dearth of any reasonable hitting and defence - particularly as compared to the collective stats of the opponents was horrid.
So someone please explain....how in the heck can a softball team be this inept ? And I don't recall who was picked 7th but whoever that is must be really, really awful to be perceived worse than HC this coming season.
But hey, baseball is picked 1st in the divine, mighty Patriot League. AIR, the coach likes to bunt a lot.
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Post by rickii on Feb 16, 2017 13:22:24 GMT -5
I think perhaps '87 is bugging many posters not so much because he is repetitive, but that down deep you know that his basic points are right. We are invisible. I think perhaps you're spot-on nht....
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Post by sarasota on Feb 16, 2017 13:24:28 GMT -5
I see a ton of rigidity in CBC.....but maybe that's just me. E.g., Floyd has lots of upside potential, but he needs game minutes to reach it. Every minute is worth gold. Husek has no upside and his game is extremely one-dimensional.
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Post by sarasota on Feb 16, 2017 13:26:54 GMT -5
Re softball, tennis, etc., Where there's a will, there's a way......no will, no way.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Feb 16, 2017 13:34:21 GMT -5
Knew that was coming! Would you rather have Carmody to right the ship or RW? BLAH BLAH BLAH Relax, man.
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Post by zambonihomie13 on Feb 16, 2017 14:24:44 GMT -5
87 - If we're not careful, HC is going to have excellent athletic facilities hosting abysmal athletic teams. So last night I clicked onto the athletic website and saw/read an uplifting story on one of the softball players. Since I don't follow the sport I scrolled down to see a lead story that said HC is picked to finish 6th of 7 in the league. I then looked at the team photo to find some of the most attractive young ladies I've seen of late decked out in VERY sharp unis. They looked better than several big-time programs ! So I asked myself, picked for next to last ?? And then another click to last season's results....a big mistake....AIR, it said something like 6-26. Shocked and saddened, I then looked at the stats....yet another big mistake. The collective dearth of any reasonable hitting and defence - particularly as compared to the collective stats of the opponents was horrid. So someone please explain....how in the heck can a softball team be this inept ? And I don't recall who was picked 7th but whoever that is must be really, really awful to be perceived worse than HC this coming season. But hey, baseball is picked 1st in the divine, mighty Patriot League. AIR, the coach likes to bunt a lot.ve For many of the same reasons that our other minor sports struggle. If you were a very good prospective softball player, chances are you would be from the Southern or Western States. You're being recruited by Holy Cross, a tiny Catholic college located across the country with rigorous academics. It's bitterly cold for much of the season. The coach can't guarantee that you will be admitted, but even if you are you're going to have to study your tail off. The school has no history of winning, and you do not know of any former teammates who has attended there. The school cannot afford to devote many resources to the sport, and until recently the athletic facilities at the school were worse than your high school's. We often forget the nature of our school. It just is not feasible for us to be good at every single sport. But our student-athletes, no matter how they perform on the field, always represent our school well upon graduation. That is what remains important.
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Post by crusader1970 on Feb 16, 2017 14:53:57 GMT -5
I think we have a chance to be a decent team next season, FWIW. Someone once told me: 1) you don't spit into the wind 2) you don't step on Superman's cape and 3) you don't win with freshmen That said, I think next year's team will be more enjoyable to watch than this year's. At least I HOPE so.
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