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Albany
Nov 25, 2017 14:40:15 GMT -5
Post by WorcesterGray on Nov 25, 2017 14:40:15 GMT -5
Albany shredding us in transition now, up 78-60.
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Albany
Nov 25, 2017 14:42:02 GMT -5
Post by WorcesterGray on Nov 25, 2017 14:42:02 GMT -5
Hard to win when Joe Cremo hits more threes today than he had all season. Albany 10-21 from three - virtually every one was wide open. D rotation on the perimeter consistently bad today
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Albany
Nov 25, 2017 14:42:36 GMT -5
Post by WorcesterGray on Nov 25, 2017 14:42:36 GMT -5
FINAL - Albany 78-62.
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Albany
Nov 25, 2017 14:43:29 GMT -5
Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 25, 2017 14:43:29 GMT -5
Albany was averaging 4.5 3PT per game before this one, they hit ten today. We hit five. That was the difference. We also only forced seven turnovers. For a team that relies on forcing turnovers, we failed at that today. Albany just carved us up on defense.
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Post by cfrivals on Nov 25, 2017 14:47:45 GMT -5
Rotations on defense are very weak and our Ball rotations on offense are way too slow to get our shooters open. We got more deflections today, but we didn’t do a good job of deflecting to our guys.
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Albany
Nov 25, 2017 14:53:01 GMT -5
Post by WorcesterGray on Nov 25, 2017 14:53:01 GMT -5
Faw is a good offensive player, but weak defensively, picks up fouls readily, and is limited to JF's back-up by the defensive scheme - so gets very limited minutes (just 9 today). Stevens' return to health would bulk us up, but he's more obviously limited to the 5, so not sure where that will leave Matt.
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Albany
Nov 25, 2017 14:59:10 GMT -5
Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 25, 2017 14:59:10 GMT -5
19-30 2PT FG today was outstanding. We are much better in this department this season, now shooting 94-166 (56.6%). Last season was 49.3%.
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Albany
Nov 25, 2017 15:05:25 GMT -5
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Post by bringbackcaro on Nov 25, 2017 15:05:25 GMT -5
This style of play is extremely frustrating.
The finesse, lack of attention to details, lack of value for possessions, no emphasis on rebounding approach is not a winning formula.
We can’t just rely on out-shooting everyone we play.
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Albany
Nov 25, 2017 15:05:47 GMT -5
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Post by cfrivals on Nov 25, 2017 15:05:47 GMT -5
I know we are playing 5 freshman and we will have ups and downs. But the things hurting this team is no seniors(thx MB) and no sophomores (thx wbc) the roster is so lopsided it’s going to be hard to correct.
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Post by possum on Nov 25, 2017 16:06:32 GMT -5
Just back from game got beat by a better veteran team. Tough shooting day for Green but didn't force anything which is a good sign. Floyd with another solid effort and was able to stay out of foul trouble. Benzan with some nice drives, but with no outside shot it amazes me he gets to the hoop as often as he does. Charles with another solid game hopefully the consistency will continue. I think Grandison had his best game today hopefully will give him confidence boost moving forward. Butler had a few tough inside moves but could not find any shots from deep. You can tell Faw is very skilled offensively but needs a lot of work on the other end very foul prone as is the case with most freshman bigs. Niego got call today over Zignorski and Lesann not sure if it was just a matchup thing or is a glimpse of things to come. I guess the only positive thing to come from the previous years recruiting disaster is the freshmen being force fed minutes which should accelerate their development. Albany's Cremo put on one of the better shooting exhibitions at the Hart in recent memory.
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Albany
Nov 25, 2017 16:13:29 GMT -5
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Post by joe on Nov 25, 2017 16:13:29 GMT -5
Decent crowd for Thanksgiving. Albany gave us chances galore to get back in it but we could not score when we needed to. Seems like there is confusion over who is supposed to be performing what role on offense. Some guys are playing too shy.
97 million and the same crap concession stand?
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Post by purplehaze on Nov 25, 2017 16:36:46 GMT -5
not surprised by today's result - simply beat by a better team today - they're 6-0 for a reason a few days of practice ahead of two tough games in Eire. We all said this would be a transition year in many ways, so let's look for progress, even on difficult days like today.
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Albany
Nov 25, 2017 16:37:54 GMT -5
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Post by ncaam on Nov 25, 2017 16:37:54 GMT -5
Just back from game got beat by a better veteran team. Tough shooting day for Green but didn't force anything which is a good sign. Floyd with another solid effort and was able to stay out of foul trouble. Benzan with some nice drives, but with no outside shot it amazes me he gets to the hoop as often as he does. Charles with another solid game hopefully the consistency will continue. I think Grandison had his best game today hopefully will give him confidence boost moving forward. Butler had a few tough inside moves but could not find any shots from deep. You can tell Faw is very skilled offensively but needs a lot of work on the other end very foul prone as is the case with most freshman bigs. Niego got call today over Zignorski and Lesann not sure if it was just a matchup thing or is a glimpse of things to come. I guess the only positive thing to come from the previous years recruiting disaster is the freshmen being force fed minutes which should accelerate their development. Albany's Cremo put on one of the better shooting exhibitions at the Hart in recent memory. KC solid game? 1 rebound???!!! !!!
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Albany
Nov 25, 2017 17:01:06 GMT -5
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Post by bringbackcaro on Nov 25, 2017 17:01:06 GMT -5
Since our 2nd game against inept Tommy Amaker, we have allowed 88, 87, and 78 points, and those 3 teams have shot a combined 55.1% on FGs.
The film is out and it is quite easy for opponents to find all of the holes in the defense (and there are a lot of them).
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Albany
Nov 25, 2017 17:43:49 GMT -5
Post by possum on Nov 25, 2017 17:43:49 GMT -5
Don't think it's a surprise that defense would suffer replacing senior minutes with freshmen minutes. At this point need to force numerous turnovers to keep score down. On the other hand we are much better offensively than last year need to live with the growing pains.
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Albany
Nov 25, 2017 18:10:36 GMT -5
Post by bigfan on Nov 25, 2017 18:10:36 GMT -5
Talk about freshmen, did any of you see Duke play six freshmen, and they are Number 1 in the latest poll. We need better rebounding play and outside defense.
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Post by possum on Nov 25, 2017 18:29:45 GMT -5
Duke gets NBA ready freshmen never mind college ready, that being said I watched that game and Duke was very lucky to win as their freshmen made a ton of defensive mistakes leading to numerous Texas uncontested dunks. In addition, their transition D was horrible but luckily for them their freshmen were good enough offensively to over come their defensive deficiencies.
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Albany
Nov 25, 2017 18:51:45 GMT -5
Post by sader1970 on Nov 25, 2017 18:51:45 GMT -5
My only observation and this being a gut rather than a head comment is that it seems that our opponents this year and over the last 2-3 years hit close to 100% of their open 3s . When our guys are wide open for the long ball, they should like 40%. First, the opponents get those open looks with a lot more frequency than us and, gee, I was really hoping that while it would take time for the freshmen to develop (and it has only been 5 games so no need to panic yet) that their shooting prowess would be better on the open looks.
NAD reminded me that one of our expected sharpshooting frosh who looked outstanding on the highlight videos didn't show the 60%+ shots that he missed.
I understand missing contested shots and especially when you are in a crowd and I also understand that really no one hits every open shot but today drove home to me what a much higher percentage Albany made when their shots were open. The former coach was criticized for stating "we don't shoot it well." Pretty sure I heard the current coach say the same thing once or twice. The one thing I thought he was going to emphasize was getting players who could shoot well because rebounding is definitely not a priority.
Don't get me wrong, I am not waving the white flag on this team yet, just venting, I suppose. There seems to be unlimited upside to this freshmen class and they are getting some much needed experience and have been thrown into the deep end of the pool. Another poster mentioned how this team has started well in most games and then faded down the stretch in virtually every game. Pretty sure that is not a fatigue issue as we've been playing a pretty long bench, so I must assume it is a lack of experience.
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Albany
Nov 25, 2017 19:35:57 GMT -5
Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 25, 2017 19:35:57 GMT -5
My only observation and this being a gut rather than a head comment is that it seems that our opponents this year and over the last 2-3 years hit close to 100% of their open 3s . When our guys are wide open for the long ball, they should like 40%. Maybe you're exaggerating, but this is simply not true. Our opponents, even when they are open, don't hit anywhere remotely close to 100% of their 3PT attempts.
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Albany
Nov 25, 2017 19:55:10 GMT -5
Post by sader1970 on Nov 25, 2017 19:55:10 GMT -5
1. Of course I am exaggerating. I had actually had a parenthetical comment that I recognized that I was using hyperbole but noted somehow part of my post was italicized. When I "corrected" that, I lost but did not notice the parenthetical expression got deleted. 2. You cannot tell from a stat sheet when a shot is wide open or when it is contested. If Albany, for example, hit 40%+ of their threes, some them but not enough, had a Crusader hand in the shooter's face. This is further complicated by the subjective nature of when a shooter is "wide open." But with no exaggeration, I'll bet that Albany hit at minimum 75% of their open 3's and we get fewer ("less" ) of those and when we do, we don't hit that consistently. We are undubtedly shooting better than past years. A lot of that has to do with our guards and the addition of CG helps a lot. He did not shoot as well as some past games but he is definitely an improvement already and will likely get even better. Much better ball movement on offense.
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Albany
Nov 25, 2017 20:08:01 GMT -5
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Post by ncaam on Nov 25, 2017 20:08:01 GMT -5
Didn’t we beat this team last year with better defense?
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Albany
Nov 25, 2017 20:17:40 GMT -5
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Post by cfrivals on Nov 25, 2017 20:17:40 GMT -5
I am not going to bash the coach, but at this level if you don’t play in your face defense and crash the boards, you don’t win! You do not need beasts to rebound. Albany had nobody bigger than 6’7. Ryan Serravalle was one of our best weak side rebounders. RW teams weren’t the best, but they played tougher than were and teams feared them. I don’t see any team fearing this team
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Albany
Nov 25, 2017 20:18:34 GMT -5
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Post by bringbackcaro on Nov 25, 2017 20:18:34 GMT -5
Didn’t we beat this team last year with better defense? We have replaced having some type of priority for defense in recruiting with caring solely about shooting. A losing formula.
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Albany
Nov 25, 2017 20:22:26 GMT -5
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Post by bringbackcaro on Nov 25, 2017 20:22:26 GMT -5
I am not going to bash the coach, but at this level if you don’t play in your face defense and crash the boards, you don’t win! You do not need beasts to rebound. Albany had nobody bigger than 6’7. Ryan Serravalle was one of our best weak side rebounders. RW teams weren’t the best, but they played tougher than were and teams feared them. I don’t see any team fearing this team [ I would argue that playing tough, disciplined, assignment-focused, opponent-specific defense is more important than just playing “in your face defense,” but completely agree about rebounding. Rolling out this 3-2 or 1-3-1 defense without wrinkles and scouting to take away opponent strengths is just never going to consistently win games, especially against good teams.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 25, 2017 20:30:48 GMT -5
Didn’t we beat this team last year with better defense? We have replaced having some type of priority for defense in recruiting with caring solely about shooting. A losing formula. Surely you remember how much some freshmen struggled learning and adapting to the complex RW defense. The freshmen class are playing most of the minutes on this team, and it's unrealistic to expect they would just step in and pick multiple defenses up immediately. Let's give them some games to continue to learn what Carm is teaching before claiming that Carm forgot how to coach basketball after 30+ years in the business.
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