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Post by hchoops on May 18, 2018 12:25:59 GMT -5
brief
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Post by dadominate on May 18, 2018 16:06:52 GMT -5
good stuff, hoops. the jave story had me reminiscing and green appears to be the best pure point guard we’ve had since torey. |
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Post by hchoops on Jun 1, 2018 13:21:34 GMT -5
Jacob
terrific ankle break
Nice stats for last 7 games
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Post by rgs318 on Jun 1, 2018 14:07:10 GMT -5
What does "terrific ankle break" mean?
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jun 1, 2018 14:11:40 GMT -5
What does "terrific ankle break" mean? A defender falls due to a dribbling move by a ball handler. In this case, it looks like the defender fell because he was tangled up with Jehyve. |
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Post by WorcesterGray on Jun 1, 2018 14:12:53 GMT -5
What does "terrific ankle break" mean? Hard crossover dribbles and step backs that cause the defender to fall as if his ankles have been broken. The first few seconds of the JG video show an example. Or this (upon further review, may be a similar case of tangle-footing as bbc has suggested above.)
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Post by rgs318 on Jun 1, 2018 14:15:49 GMT -5
Thanks guys. I was worried there had been an injury.  |
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Post by trimster on Jun 1, 2018 14:16:18 GMT -5
At the risk of stating the obvious, so much of the near term future of the program rests with the class of 2021, it is kind of scary. Can't recall a similar situation in all my years of following HC hoops.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 1, 2018 15:06:17 GMT -5
I'm really excited about watch JG next year--he improved so much over the season and we can be optimistic that he'll move forward again as a soph. The video talked about him averaging 13.3 PPG in the last 7 games, and he sure did come on strong at season's end. Here's one thing you notice if you take a quick glance at his stats on KenPom: he played a lot from the get go, but in his first 14 games he went to the free throw line just 4 times. He went 3 for 5 on free throws in 281 minutes in those 14 games. He committed 35 personal fouls in those games. In his last 7 games he played 268 minutes and went 19 for 23 from the free throw line and committed only 19 fouls, so a huge swing on JG's PF +/- stat. I know we played different teams in those two sets of games--still, I'm taking the optimistic view that he improved a lot in at least that one important area.
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Post by hchoops on Jun 1, 2018 15:07:08 GMT -5
At the risk of stating the obvious, so much of the near term future of the program rests with the class of 2021, it is kind of scary. Can't recall a similar situation in all my years of following HC hoops. Were you around for the Potter- Vicens years ? Whearty, Wilson , Szatko ? |
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Post by breezy on Jun 1, 2018 15:25:05 GMT -5
What does "terrific ankle break" mean? My 8-year-old grandson was playing flag football last fall. He's a little guy but he has some quickness. In one game, he took a handoff -- kind of an end-around -- and ran (making some cuts left and right) almost the entire length of the field to score a touchdown. I congratulated him and told him it was a great run. He smiled and said to me: "I broke a lot of ankles on that play." |
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Post by WorcesterGray on Jun 1, 2018 15:44:14 GMT -5
At the risk of stating the obvious, so much of the near term future of the program rests with the class of 2021, it is kind of scary. Can't recall a similar situation in all my years of following HC hoops. Were you around for the Potter- Vicens years ? Whearty, Wilson , Szatko ?Whearty, Wilson, and Szatko were all wonderful players, but they had a much deeper and more talented supporting cast, especially in 1999-00 and 2000-01, so were not relied upon to the extent the six frosh were and will be. In each of their first two seasons together, Whearty-Wilson-Szatko combined for a little more than 30% of the total minutes - in the final two years, less than 40%. The six freshmen in 2017-18 played a combined 54% of the total minutes. They will likely have 80% of the returning minutes at the start of 2019-20. Believe this is trimster's point.
Btw, the Butler-Grandison-Green trio played a total of 2,600+ minutes last year - more than Whearty-Wilson-Szatko ever did in a single season.
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Post by trimster on Jun 1, 2018 18:26:10 GMT -5
Yes Worcester Gray, you get my drift. I just thought of one class, George Blaney's last scholarship class, that comes close to the class of 2021 in terms of numbers. It was a strong class in terms of wins and production. The class of 1993 consisted of Rick Mashburn, Frank Powell, Bill Walker, Roger Breslin and Derek Farkas.
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Post by DiMarz on Jun 1, 2018 19:57:13 GMT -5
What does "terrific ankle break" mean? My 8-year-old grandson was playing flag football last fall. He's a little guy but he has some quickness. In one game, he took a handoff -- kind of an end-around -- and ran (making some cuts left and right) almost the entire length of the field to score a touchdown. I congratulated him and told him it was a great run. He smiled and said to me: "I broke a lot of ankles on that play." Similiarly, when my daughter was on the hardwood, she always tried to get her defender to fall down...got a rise from the student section back then.. |
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Post by HC1843 on Jun 1, 2018 21:51:34 GMT -5
What does "terrific ankle break" mean? Also known as "breaking ankles". See Lionel Messi. Cheers. |
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Post by WorcesterGray on Jun 2, 2018 5:39:25 GMT -5
I just thought of one class, George Blaney's last scholarship class, that comes close to the class of 2021 in terms of numbers. It was a strong class in terms of wins and production. The class of 1993 consisted of Rick Mashburn, Frank Powell, Bill Walker, Roger Breslin and Derek Farkas. Yes, that's a good comp, though they didn't contribute that much as freshmen and were not the core strength of the team as sophs. But as seniors, those five combined to play over 4,000 minutes, 67% of the total, and had a similar share of the points and rebounds. They also got another 900+ minutes of support that season from some sophomore named Feaster.
The Class of 1993 went 83-36 in their four years. That's a high mark for the Class of 2021 to shoot for.
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Post by breezy on Jun 4, 2018 7:04:55 GMT -5
Getting ready for the new season:
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Post by lou on Jun 4, 2018 7:15:53 GMT -5
Good to see the crutches are gone
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Post by hchoops on Jun 4, 2018 7:23:32 GMT -5
Summer school
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 4, 2018 8:04:24 GMT -5
They're getting ready to take that big sophomore step forward
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Post by Tom on Jun 4, 2018 8:04:48 GMT -5
Were you around for the Potter- Vicens years ? Whearty, Wilson , Szatko ?Whearty, Wilson, and Szatko were all wonderful players, but they had a much deeper and more talented supporting cast, especially in 1999-00 and 2000-01, so were not relied upon to the extent the six frosh were and will be. In each of their first two seasons together, Whearty-Wilson-Szatko combined for a little more than 30% of the total minutes - in the final two years, less than 40%. The six freshmen in 2017-18 played a combined 54% of the total minutes. They will likely have 80% of the returning minutes at the start of 2019-20. Believe this is trimster's point.
Btw, the Butler-Grandison-Green trio played a total of 2,600+ minutes last year - more than Whearty-Wilson-Szatko ever did in a single season.
In all fairness Whearty was a sophomore when Wilson and Szatko showed up. Also that was the season of the worst injury bug I can think of. Five of what were supposed to be the top six returning players missed at minimum 1/3 of the season. Szatko and Wilson were somewhat forced into larger roles |
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Post by HCFC45 on Jun 4, 2018 8:06:02 GMT -5
Good to see the crutches are gone And the boot!!! |
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Post by Ignutz on Jun 4, 2018 11:18:43 GMT -5
I just thought of one class, George Blaney's last scholarship class, that comes close to the class of 2021 in terms of numbers. It was a strong class in terms of wins and production. The class of 1993 consisted of Rick Mashburn, Frank Powell, Bill Walker, Roger Breslin and Derek Farkas. Yes, that's a good comp, though they didn't contribute that much as freshmen and were not the core strength of the team as sophs. But as seniors, those five combined to play over 4,000 minutes, 67% of the total, and had a similar share of the points and rebounds. They also got another 900+ minutes of support that season from some sophomore named Feaster.
The Class of 1993 went 83-36 in their four years. That's a high mark for the Class of 2021 to shoot for.
But the great class of '78 was 85-31 (.733) - the best four-year record since 1963, and one of only three teams in school history ('53 & '54) to graduate with four twenty win seasons.
While the class of '21 can't get the four 20s, let's have all future classes aim to equal what 1978 achieved.
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Post by trimster on Jun 4, 2018 13:15:04 GMT -5
Can anyone name the other two scholarship players in the class of '78 besides Potter and Vicens?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 4, 2018 15:47:50 GMT -5
Can anyone name the other two scholarship players in the class of '78 besides Potter and Vicens? That was my senior year --we had been told about these two extraordinary freshmen joining the team and when we saw the first game we knew that the reports had been conservative. What talents Potter and Vicens were! I could not come up with other scholarship players from that class so I looked up the team on basketball-reference and remembered the one player I found from the same class. I won't name him here as that would be cheating. I did not find a fourth player, but I do remember the Martinez (I believe that is correct) kid from New York who never did play but maybe had received a scholarship? |
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