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Post by WorcesterGray on Jul 30, 2018 19:20:58 GMT -5
Agreed, Dave. Was there with a good buddy, originally from RI, who went totally bananas when TJ hit that three. Fabulous atmosphere.
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Post by trimster on Jul 30, 2018 19:54:01 GMT -5
Maybe someday we can get to the point where we have a game like this in Worcester: One of the most enjoyable games I've ever witnessed in person. Only if the NCAA tourney returns to Worcester. Sorrentine hit that shot from somewhere in the Parking Lot.
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Post by rf1 on Jul 30, 2018 20:00:57 GMT -5
Maybe someday we can get to the point where we have a game like this in Worcester: One of the most enjoyable games I've ever witnessed in person.
I was at that game and all the games at the Centrum that weekend. My SU alum brother did not enjoy Vermont win. Great field in Worcester that year with four former national champions - Syracuse, Michigan State, NC State, and UConn.
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Post by hchoops on Aug 7, 2018 15:52:22 GMT -5
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Aug 11, 2018 5:01:52 GMT -5
Thought there was a thread started, but could not find it. Anyway, I see from our friend Unhfan (posting on the AE board) that HC will NOT be playing UNH this year (the Cats released their schedule).And, Vermont released their schedule......and HC is playing there 11/28!
This is what I think we've got:
HOME
11/6 (Tues) - Sacred Heart 12/1 (Sat) - Fairleigh Dickinson 12/22 (Sat) - Siena
12/8 (Sat) -URI (DCU)
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11/10 (Sat) - Michigan 11/13 (Tues) - Providence 11/20 (Tues) - Albany
11-28 (Wed) - Harvard 12/4- (Tues) - UMass Iona
NEUTRAL 11/16 (Fri) - Stony Brook 11/18 (Sun) - Siena/Norfolk State
Some updated dates; this time, used actually released schedules as the source. Couldn't find one for Iona. Would appear there still is 1 game that could be scheduled.
Although locals won't be beating down the doors for tickets, at least the students should be around for the 2 NEC games.
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Post by hchoops on Aug 11, 2018 7:13:05 GMT -5
Vermont at home still possible ?
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Post by hc6774 on Aug 11, 2018 7:34:33 GMT -5
women are @ Vermont on 11/28
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Post by timholycross on Aug 11, 2018 9:20:22 GMT -5
I think most of you know I don't knock Pine and Carmody very much, but that's a horrible home schedule. Almost like they went out of their way to make it as unattractive as possible. URI would be a fun game with 3,500 at the Hart...not 3,500 at the DCU and 10,000 empty seats.
The best "home games" are away for those fans who don't live right in Worcester and have to drive a bit anyway (PC, Harvard, Umass)
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Aug 11, 2018 9:48:04 GMT -5
Vermont is not on the sked, but Canisius will be at the Hart on 12/20 and HC will be at Iona on 12/30. That rounds out the OOC beyond what has been posted above.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Aug 11, 2018 9:49:37 GMT -5
The Siena game might be fun to watch. New head coach Jamion Christian ran a version of the VCU "havoc" at The Mount, presume he'll install something similar at his new gig. Lots of high-energy, ball-hawking defense a good test for HC and entertaining for fans.
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Post by bison137 on Aug 11, 2018 10:29:34 GMT -5
The Siena game might be fun to watch. New head coach Jamion Christian ran a version of the VCU "havoc" at The Mount, presume he'll install something similar at his new gig. Lots of high-energy, ball-hawking defense a good test for HC and entertaining for fans. Yes, he will likely use it. At MSM, it was "Mount Mayhem". His problem, however, is that Patsos really didn't leave him many players suited to play that style.
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Post by rf1 on Aug 11, 2018 11:33:27 GMT -5
URI lost quite a bit last year with the graduation of many of its top players that had brought them to back to back NCAA Tournaments winning 1st round games both times. Starting PG Dowtin returns along with big man Langevine, who started many games, and reserve guard Fatts Russell will now make up the core. Most talented freshmen class ever in Kingston expected to make immediate impact. Expect top 100 player Jermaine Harris (PF 6-9) to get significant playing time. May take team a while to gel. The Cross gets them early in the season which should work in its favor.
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Post by possum on Aug 11, 2018 12:11:29 GMT -5
This is really a pathetic home schedule.
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 11, 2018 12:52:07 GMT -5
I'm sure you couldn't possibly mean more pathetic than Milan's schedules.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 11, 2018 13:06:43 GMT -5
Speaking about sub-optimal OOC schedules--will Georgetown repeat the ludicrous slate that it put together last season?
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Post by WorcesterGray on Aug 11, 2018 13:13:39 GMT -5
Putting aside home and road for a second . . . According to Pomeroy, the overall non-conference strength of schedule rankings for Holy Cross in 2015 (313) and 2017 (269) were worse than any of the MB years. We'll have to wait to see where 2018 falls. Year (NCSOS)10-11. 167 11-12. 194 12-13. 231 13-14 145 14-15. 103
15-16. 313 16-17. 145 17-18. 269.
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Post by Tom on Aug 11, 2018 13:37:11 GMT -5
I think most of you know I don't knock Pine and Carmody very much, but that's a horrible home schedule. Almost like they went out of their way to make it as unattractive as possible. URI would be a fun game with 3,500 at the Hart...not 3,500 at the DCU and 10,000 empty seats. The best "home games" are away for those fans who don't live right in Worcester and have to drive a bit anyway (PC, Harvard, Umass) It is a sad (and in my opinion,pathetic) truth that in 2018 no teams that a casual fan would label "attractive" are coming to Hart. Even the A-10 as a notch below the big boys doesn't want to deal with a true road OOC game if they can avoid it. You are correct. There is no logical reason to play a game at the Centrum in front of a crowd that would fit in Hart. But better to have the A-10 at the Centrum than not in Worcester at all
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Post by lou on Aug 11, 2018 13:53:30 GMT -5
Did I miss the posting of the schedule, or are we talking about the two home games FDU and SHU? Siena and URI are acceptable to most I assume. Last year we had a game at FDU well attended by Jersey and NY fans, and then there's the opener at SHU, also a pretty good HC crowd. So this year they're home games.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Aug 11, 2018 13:55:05 GMT -5
Playing URI at the Centrum is likely not HC's choice. The days of A10 schools and above visting campus arenas in bottom-feeder leagues such as the PL are long gone.
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Post by bison137 on Aug 11, 2018 14:11:09 GMT -5
Playing URI at the Centrum is likely not HC's choice. The days of A10 schools and above visting campus arenas in bottom-feeder leagues such as the PL are long gone. I think that's a bit pessimistic. Bucknell has had three A-10 teams, one ACC team, and one Big 10 team play in Sojka over the past five years. There likely will be two more A-10 teams playing there next year.
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 11, 2018 14:24:19 GMT -5
Did I miss the posting of the schedule, or are we talking about the two home games FDU and SHU? Siena and URI are acceptable to most I assume. Last year we had a game at FDU well attended by Jersey and NY fans, and then there's the opener at SHU, also a pretty good HC crowd. So this year they're home games. It would be nice if they were in different seasons, so that there would be a NY area game for HC fans each season. I took advantage of the opportunity last year and made both games.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Aug 11, 2018 14:36:35 GMT -5
Did I miss the posting of the schedule, or are we talking about the two home games FDU and SHU? Siena and URI are acceptable to most I assume. Last year we had a game at FDU well attended by Jersey and NY fans, and then there's the opener at SHU, also a pretty good HC crowd. So this year they're home games. It would be nice if they were in different seasons, so that there would be a NY area game for HC fans each season. I took advantage of the opportunity last year and made both games. Agree that HC should play in NYC every year, and as I noted above, HC is at Iona on Dec 30th, so you get to see them again this yr Rob
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Post by rf1 on Aug 11, 2018 14:49:44 GMT -5
Playing URI at the Centrum is likely not HC's choice. The days of A10 schools and above visting campus arenas in bottom-feeder leagues such as the PL are long gone.
St. Joe's looks to be the last A-10 team that played in the Hart back in 2010. Holy Cross with URI this season will have played seven games in Worcester vs A-10 schools since 2007 from what I can tell. Four of these (Dayton, UMass [2x], and URI) were at the DCU Center while three were on campus (SJU [2x] and GW). I think the Worcester site comes down to which A-10 teams the Cross plays. If it is an upper echelon A-10 team that itself plays in a large home arena, it likely results in a home game at the DCU Center. If it is a lower level program or one with a similar sized small home venue, it is at the Hart. UMass and URI, in addition to wanting a competitive advantage, probably also want the large venue so their fans will have the opportunity to attend. It is also worth noting that Holy Cross has had to agree to 2-1 deals just to get some home DCU Center games as it had two such series with UMass and one with URI in the last decade. The only other similar arrangement that included DCU Center games for the Crusaders was Boston College.
My guess is that Holy Cross may reasonably be able to get A-10 programs such as Fordham, St. Joe's, LaSalle, GW, and Duquesne to play at the Hart. St. Bonaventure is another possibility as it will play at UVM this season as part of a three game series (in Rochester-NY where Bonnies typically play one game each yr / at Vermont / at SBU). Holy Cross has some history with these teams with most of them also being northeast Catholic schools. If Holy cross were to become a more regular NCAA Tournament team with strong RPI rankings each year, things might change (as the case with Bucknell).
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Aug 11, 2018 15:00:26 GMT -5
Saying that an A10 school such as St. Bona would come to the Hart b/c they are playing at UVM is comparing apples to bowling balls. HC program is nowhere near where UVM is currently.
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 11, 2018 15:05:57 GMT -5
If a higher tier school was to play Bucknell or Holy Cross, Holy Cross does have the DCU with a much larger capacity should the crowd ever warrant. I don't believe Bucknell has any other option than their on campus court. So, play Bucknell at home, it pretty much has to be "at home," right?
Also, since they've been playing much better basketball than Holy Cross, they have more leverage. Solution? Carmody's team have to start actually winning a lot more than they lose and beat some teams that are a stretch for them.
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