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Post by Ray on Jan 3, 2019 21:35:48 GMT -5
Nice win! Floyd takes the inside lane for PoY.
1-0 on the road. First of five league games in 11 days goes in the W column.
There’s no bad news here.
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Post by HC92 on Jan 3, 2019 21:37:03 GMT -5
Survive and advance.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 3, 2019 21:38:16 GMT -5
And they lost.....like most Milan teams did.
And if you really think they were the best players on the court, your negative comments are losing ALL their credibility. Um, who was better than Floyd and Koestecka tonight? Earth to crusader1970! Let's see, HCBC coached Floyd for 3+ years and and helped him to become the player he is...a winner. Kostecka showed poor judgement and went to Loyola and is now in the midst of a bad losing streak. Who recruits you is less important IMHO than who coaches you to become better (unless,of course, all that matters is trying to make BC look bad - but no one would be that much of an a$$ would they?) No shortage in the foolish comment category tonight: "Loyola wanted it more" Perhaps, but they lost to a better team when that team was having an "off night" by some of the players. Announcer: If Loyola had only hit their 3s more often, they could be right in this game. That is a classic. If Loyola scored more points the score would be closer...what an insight. Why not just enjoy the win and hope the team looks sharper against the middies on Sunday? Too much to ask?
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Post by Ray on Jan 3, 2019 21:38:53 GMT -5
Anyone know the team’s travel plans? I hope they are staying somewhere in the DMV this weekend?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 3, 2019 21:41:04 GMT -5
If we had made 1/2 our layups we would have won by 20. Baffling
I’m sure the coaches will be doing a lot of instructing to try to correct some of the mistakes the guys made
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 3, 2019 21:44:17 GMT -5
I think you can count on that. It looked as though he was throwing away pieces of clothing. I was waiting for him to disgard his white (sweat soaked) shirt at the end.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 3, 2019 21:45:40 GMT -5
Because I choose to not have my head buried in the sand with my fingers crossed that everything will automatically be sunshine & rainbows like those who think every win is a good win, nothing bad can happen in a win, etc. etc. Anyone who chooses to have their head in the sand has every right to do so, of course! Go Cross Go! Burying it in sand might be an improvement over where you seem to have it stuck at times. It could at least smell better
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jan 3, 2019 21:46:49 GMT -5
Um, who was better than Floyd and Koestecka tonight? Earth to crusader1970! Why not just enjoy the win and hope the team looks sharper against the middies on Sunday? Too much to ask? Because I choose to not have my head buried in the sand with my fingers crossed that everything will automatically be sunshine & rainbows like those who think every win is a good win, nothing bad can happen in a win, etc. etc. Anyone who chooses to have their head in the sand has every right to do so, of course! Go Cross Go!
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Post by lou on Jan 3, 2019 21:48:51 GMT -5
In other good news, at 150 kenpom, HC best in the PL at the moment
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 3, 2019 21:51:22 GMT -5
Prior to the game, I mentioned to 45 that one concern I have had about Holy Cross teams historically is that when we get up by a nice margin and have them down, instead of putting our foot on their throats, we tend to ease up and let the opponent back in the game. In the more recent past, we've not only let the opponent back in the game but eased up so much that they've won. At least it now looks like we show enough mettle to hang on for the win.
"pedal to the metal!"
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Post by DiMarz on Jan 3, 2019 21:52:48 GMT -5
If we had made 1/2 our layups we would have won by 20. Baffling I’m sure the coaches will be doing a lot of instructing to try to correct some of the mistakes the guys made It seems so simple, just make the layup.....However the game is so much faster than practice and getting your head up is not as easy as it seems..Lots of catch phrases used by coaches point to this....chin up, rim up.....eyes to the rim.....see the hoop...and my favorite from the 60's, never up never in..... I remember FCRW telling player to slow down
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 3, 2019 21:53:54 GMT -5
Just for the record, every win is a good win for HC. Nothing will improve automatically. The improvement we have seen in the players and this team came from hard work individually and collectively by players and coaches. Did any real person ever say that "everything will automatically be sunshine and roses"? I doubt it (unless, perhaps, it was you). Injuries can happen in a win. They would be bad. The win itself is good. Isn't that the point of playing the game?
I believe your agenda is clear regarding HCBC, but it appears you are really stretching things. Do you expect people to feel bad about a win because some dumb moves took place in the game and the players found ways to overcome them? If you do, that is sad.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jan 3, 2019 22:03:11 GMT -5
NP could have hired Brad Stevens and we'd be stuck reading the same miserable BS every nite from the same miserable poster.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 3, 2019 22:04:18 GMT -5
If we had made 1/2 our layups we would have won by 20. Baffling I’m sure the coaches will be doing a lot of instructing to try to correct some of the mistakes the guys made It seems so simple, just make the layup.....However the game is so much faster than practice and getting your head up is not as easy as it seems..Lots of catch phrases used by coaches point to this....chin up, rim up.....eyes to the rim.....see the hoop...and my favorite from the 60's, never up never in..... I remember FCRW telling player to slow down Wise counsel. I think a lot of the misses were bad rolls that would have gone in on another night. Randomness rather than incompetence but frustrating nevertheless.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 3, 2019 22:08:08 GMT -5
I remember that was an issue with TT. He would get a steal, drive the length of the court, and sometimes blow a layup. People were upset for a time at how often that happened. What they forgot was that it all started with a TT steal and he did make many of the layups. It was just that the misses stuck in our minds until we looked back at the season overall. Those misses tonight (often off of nice passes) will more often than not go in. Thank goodness enough of them did to get us the win.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jan 3, 2019 22:09:16 GMT -5
Just for the record, every win is a good win for HC. Nothing will improve automatically. The improvement we have seen in the players and this team came from hard work individually and collectively by players and coaches. Did any real person ever say that "everything will automatically be sunshine and roses"? I doubt it (unless, perhaps, it was you). Injuries can happen in a win. They would be bad. The win itself is good. Isn't that the point of playing the game? I believe your agenda is clear regarding HCBC, but it appears you are really stretching things. Do you expect people to feel bad about a win because some dumb moves took place in the game and the players found ways to overcome them? If you do, that is sad. For someone who insists on taking every word and sentence so literally, you sure are building a lot of straw men.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 3, 2019 22:17:51 GMT -5
There is that term again "straw man." My statement was clear. If you see a straw man somewhere, please let me know where.
Dfn: Straw man - an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument. I offered specific points. Which do you feel were "intentional misrepresentations?"
I do take what people say/write as what they mean. If a statement depends on the reader's interpretation and not on actual meaning, then communication is not only difficult, it can be impossible. Taking things literally (unless sarcasm or exaggeration are clearly the intent) I do not see as a problem.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jan 3, 2019 22:20:56 GMT -5
There is that term again "straw man." My statement was clear. If you see a straw man somewhere, please let me know where. Dfn: Straw man - an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument. I offered specific points. Which do you feel were "intentional misrepresentations?" I do take what people say/write as what they mean. If a statement depends on the reader's interpretation and not on actual meaning, then communication is not only difficult, it can be impossible. Taking things literally (unless sarcasm or exaggeration are clearly the intent) I do not see as a problem. Your quote: “Do you expect people to feel bad about a win because some dumb moves took place in the game and the players found ways to overcome them? If you do, that is sad.” Nowhere did I say that. It’s getting insane how many people would rather just btch and moan about posts they don’t like than actually talk about Holy Cross Basketball.
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Post by possum on Jan 3, 2019 22:30:09 GMT -5
Great game by Floyd and nice balanced scoring with four in double figures. Hopefully we will see many more games like this from Floyd as there is really no one in the league who can handle him in the paint. A little sloppy buy any win on the road is good as evidenced by Navy's upset of Colgate. RGS not sure why you're questioning Kostecka's judgment, if you read his explanation of situation with HC says after he committed coach got fired and that opportunity fell through. Too bad would have been a terrific player does everything pretty well and is more athletic than he looks.
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Post by HCFC45 on Jan 3, 2019 22:32:10 GMT -5
10 - 4 (1 - 0 PL) baby ! Who gives a rat's A$$ how we got there? We do not have a cast of seasoned veterans! We have a gritty bunch of gym rat Sophomores with a couple upperclassman! ! And, at this time. I'll gladly take that! !
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 3, 2019 22:34:18 GMT -5
Another attempt to help bbc:
We’d all rather talk about basketball than bitch about unlikeable posts. Your agenda is just so annoying and on your end it must be frustrating that you can’t swing anyone to your way of thinking. You should stop and consider that just maybe 25 of us are right and your judgment is clouded by your agenda
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Post by HC92 on Jan 3, 2019 22:36:16 GMT -5
There is that term again "straw man." My statement was clear. If you see a straw man somewhere, please let me know where. Dfn: Straw man - an intentionally misrepresented proposition that is set up because it is easier to defeat than an opponent's real argument. I offered specific points. Which do you feel were "intentional misrepresentations?" I do take what people say/write as what they mean. If a statement depends on the reader's interpretation and not on actual meaning, then communication is not only difficult, it can be impossible. Taking things literally (unless sarcasm or exaggeration are clearly the intent) I do not see as a problem. Your quote: “Do you expect people to feel bad about a win because some dumb moves took place in the game and the players found ways to overcome them? If you do, that is sad.” Nowhere did I say that. It’s getting insane how many people would rather just btch and moan about posts they don’t like than actually talk about Holy Cross Basketball. BBC- I know you had an axe to grind with NP. I know that that axe also seems to extend to Carmody either because he was hired by Pine or because he did something himself at some point that made your dislike personal. Anyway, we need to move past that now because you’re just making people crazy with the nonstop negativity though I do appreciate the myriad of ways you have found to work in the transgressions of former players to almost any discussion. Please let’s just move on and, as you suggest, actually talk about Holy Cross Basketball without the axe grinding. Thank you.
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Post by efg72 on Jan 3, 2019 22:41:38 GMT -5
Coach is hugging players down 7 in this awful basketball game. Doubt Robert Montgomery Knight would do that. Sitting behind the bench there were few hugs-coach was complaining, to whomever on the bench was listening, about the missed layups, missed rotations, stupid fouls and missed foul shots. Honestly it is a game we should have won by thirty-Loyola is not even a decent basketball team. Most of kostecka’s looks were uncontested or he was fouled, but give him credit he hit the open shots Spent time with Witts and Mulquin who are doing well so a great time in Baltimore, a win is a win, and a road win even bigger-many in the crowd were following Navy -Colgate When looking at the first five conference games you wonder if the results and play reflected conference play, a long Christmas break or a little of both I was trying to find dadominate to say hello, but never bumped into him on to Annapolis for Sunday
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Post by thecrossisback on Jan 3, 2019 22:50:29 GMT -5
Coach is hugging players down 7 in this awful basketball game. Doubt Robert Montgomery Knight would do that. Sitting behind the bench there were few hugs-his mouth was running a 100 mph complaining about the missed layups, missed rotations, stupid fouls and missed foul shots. Honestly it is a game we should have won by thirty-Loyola is a bad basketball team. Most of kostecka’s looks were uncontested or he was fouled. watching it live gives a different perspective on decision making by butler and Benzan. Both play really hard but they cost us at least 10 offensive possessions tonight by dribbling to dead spots and they had nothing in mind. He got all over Grandy and Butler for trying to make easy layups complicated attempts However a win is a win, and a road win even bigger-many in the crowd were following Navy -Colgate When looking at the first five conference games you wonder if the results and play reflected conference play, a long Christmas break or a little of both I agree being there is totally different. I meant the Loyola MD coach, when he hugged a player after he hit a three.
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Post by HCFC45 on Jan 3, 2019 22:53:55 GMT -5
Watched the game on the PL network... Yes, I know times have changed but...at one point tonight there was a still shot of maybe 20 - 25 fans behind the HC bench and by my count at least 15 - 20 were on their cell phones! ! I guess that it is this day and age but I go to games to watch the game and not be involved in social media! !
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