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Post by Xmassader on Jan 27, 2019 16:28:35 GMT -5
I don’t believe that CN has an available medical redshirt year. He has played in 10 games (which is more than 30% of HC’s regularly-scheduled games regardless of whether the “guaranteed” PL tournament game is counted). Had he played in only 9 games, that possibilty may have been in play.
As a result, it would seem to make sense for both CN and HC for him to give it a try by PL tournament time since this year is probably one of his 4 eligibilty years regardless of whether he returns or not
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 27, 2019 16:59:28 GMT -5
How about getting him back because it is what he is working for and because it can help this years team and next year's team as well.?
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Post by alum on Jan 27, 2019 17:20:56 GMT -5
Yesterday’s game is being reshown on NESN+ right now
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Post by timholycross on Jan 27, 2019 17:42:38 GMT -5
I don’t believe that CN has an available medical redshirt year. He has played in 10 games (which is more than 30% of HC’s regularly-scheduled games regardless of whether the “guaranteed” PL tournament game is counted). Had he played in only 9 games, that possibilty may have been in play. As a result, it would seem to make sense for both CN and HC for him to give it a try by PL tournament time since this year is probably one of his 4 eligibilty years regardless of whether he returns or not Well getting another year was Part 2 of my post, Part 1 was making sure he isn't plagued by this injury the next two years (or three, but looks like you are right and three is a non-starter) because he threw caution to the wind and came back too soon. There have been many others with foot and ankle problems that kept getting injured all over again.
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Post by bison137 on Jan 27, 2019 18:05:39 GMT -5
I don’t believe that CN has an available medical redshirt year. He has played in 10 games (which is more than 30% of HC’s regularly-scheduled games regardless of whether the “guaranteed” PL tournament game is counted). Had he played in only 9 games, that possibilty may have been in play. As a result, it would seem to make sense for both CN and HC for him to give it a try by PL tournament time since this year is probably one of his 4 eligibilty years regardless of whether he returns or not No. He qualifies for a medical hardship waiver. The NCAA formula uses a team's total of regular season games, plus one extra game for postseason (regardless of how many actual games are played). In HC's case, that means 32 games. Multiply that by 30% and you get 9.6 games, which the NCAA allows to be rounded up to ten. Thus he qualifies. The above assumes, of course, that he has a season-ending injury that can be documented by medical evidence and certified by the HC physician.
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Post by Tom on Jan 27, 2019 20:08:55 GMT -5
Part 1 was making sure he isn't plagued by this injury the next two years (or three, but looks like you are right and three is a non-starter) because he threw caution to the wind and came back too soon. There have been many others with foot and ankle problems that kept getting injured all over again. Last year Stevens rushed back for a few minutes one game and then was back in the boot the next day. There have been other examples
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Post by Xmassader on Jan 27, 2019 20:39:54 GMT -5
bison 137 Thought 10 over 32 = 31.25% of games. Was not aware that NCAA did the calculation and allowed the “rounding up” that you describe. If so, CN would just barely qualify for a medical hardship and would not have ‘18-‘19 count as one of his 4 yrs. of eligibility provided that he does not play in another game this yr. That would make the decision, both for him and HC, more challenging. Do you take a chance and come back this yr. and, if re-injured, lose a yr. of eligibility or play it cautiously and preserve 3 more yrs. of eligibility, either for a 5th yr. at HC (a la Whearty) or as grad transfer (e.g. RJ Evans).
Since toe/foot injuries are frequently tricky in terms of recovery time and re-injury, my hope is that, if CN comes back this yr., he is fully recovered with a minimal likelihood of re-injury.
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Post by Ignutz on Jan 27, 2019 20:57:43 GMT -5
I don’t believe that CN has an available medical redshirt year. He has played in 10 games (which is more than 30% of HC’s regularly-scheduled games regardless of whether the “guaranteed” PL tournament game is counted). Had he played in only 9 games, that possibilty may have been in play. As a result, it would seem to make sense for both CN and HC for him to give it a try by PL tournament time since this year is probably one of his 4 eligibilty years regardless of whether he returns or not Well getting another year was Part 2 of my post, Part 1 was making sure he isn't plagued by this injury the next two years (or three, but looks like you are right and three is a non-starter) because he threw caution to the wind and came back too soon. There have been many others with foot and ankle problems that kept getting injured all over again. See WALTON, Bill. Question: How would a fifth year work in a school without graduate level courses? Could he extend his HC time with a double major? It seems easy with football, or another sport that competes in only one semester, but hoops or hockey would seem to be a different animal. FWIW, my sources say he’s done.
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 27, 2019 21:03:56 GMT -5
One thing about these medical redshirt situations that should be kept in mind is that in the Patriot League in general and Holy Cross in particular, many of our student-athletes are students first and even though their education is being paid for and no doubt love their sport, they may just choose to want to graduate in 4 years with their classmates and get on with their lives. It is not just a medical decision.
I recall I was at a post-season event and a couple of other posters were there as well and we were talking to one of our graduating seniors who was a big bruiser who surprisingly said that he was looking forward to graduation and getting on with his life. He said that as much as he loved basketball, the four years took a toll on his body and he was relieved to have his career over.
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Post by hchoops on Jan 27, 2019 21:12:13 GMT -5
Cool stuff
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Post by hchoops on Jan 28, 2019 13:21:05 GMT -5
The hoops alums Contest? name them
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Post by timholycross on Jan 28, 2019 13:49:12 GMT -5
I'm sure someone can help me out.
Front L-R: Roger Breslin, Rod Deleaver, ? (I think it's a guy who was a manager),? (one of two people, Lorn Davis or Schone Malliet) Rear L-R: Togo, Ron Perry, Fr. Markey, Jim Maloney, Jim Nairus, ? , ?, Bill Doran, Rick Mashburn, ? , Ron Perry
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Post by Tom on Jan 28, 2019 14:09:56 GMT -5
I'm sure someone can help me out. Front L-R: Roger Breslin, Rod Deleaver, ? (I think it's a guy who was a manager),? (one of two people, Lorn Davis or Schone Malliet) Rear L-R: Togo, Ron Perry, Fr. Markey, Jim Maloney, Jim Nairus, ? , ?, Bill Doran, Rick Mashburn, ? , Ron Perry Chris Rojik '97 is to the left of Doran Chris Morgan '16 is between Mashburn and young Perry The guy in the front row is not Lorn Davis They announced some stuff about the 79 team and said there were two members of the 79 team represented - Ron Perry and some guy I never heard of. I went on-line and was vaguely aware of every name so the announced guy isn't on an on-line roster. That guy is likely one of the mystery people. Bob Foley '63 was also in the house, but didn't RSVP to the festivities, he just showed up as he sometimes does during the course of the season. With no RSVP, he wasn't announced or in the photo
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 28, 2019 15:00:00 GMT -5
I'm sure someone can help me out. Front L-R: Roger Breslin, Rod Deleaver, ? (I think it's a guy who was a manager),? (one of two people, Lorn Davis or Schone Malliet) Rear L-R: Togo, Ron Perry, Fr. Markey, Jim Maloney, Jim Nairus, ? , ?, Bill Doran, Rick Mashburn, ? , Ron Perry Schone Malliet surely holds the distinction of being the only Crusader who was both (A) a varsity basketball player, and (B) a cheer leader. He was on the cheerleading squad-maybe when he was a junior or senior--and when the cheerleaders came out he would throw down a vicious slam dunk to astonish the crowd. He was a fantastic leaper. I think he also went out for football as a wide receiver but I don't think he saw any game action.
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Post by possum on Jan 28, 2019 15:07:29 GMT -5
Think guy to the right of Nairus might be Kevin McAuley heard his name announced only thing that confuses me is in the picture McAuley looks taller than Doran, in their playing days Doran listed at 6'5 and McAuley 6'2, maybe one grew and the other shrunk.
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 28, 2019 15:15:49 GMT -5
Shrinking is something many of us older guys have accomplished.
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Post by hchoops on Jan 28, 2019 15:19:13 GMT -5
Think guy to the right of Nairus might be Kevin McAuley heard his name announced only thing that confuses me is in the picture McAuley looks taller than Doran, in their playing days Doran listed at 6'5 and McAuley 6'2, maybe one grew and the other shrunk. Doubt that is McCauley. Height precludes it. Nairus is/was 6’10”.
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Post by possum on Jan 28, 2019 15:29:20 GMT -5
Hoops how about Kevin Daley
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Post by Ignutz on Jan 28, 2019 15:36:33 GMT -5
I'm sure someone can help me out. Front L-R: Roger Breslin, Rod Deleaver, ? (I think it's a guy who was a manager),? (one of two people, Lorn Davis or Schone Malliet) Rear L-R: Togo, Ron Perry, Fr. Markey, Jim Maloney, Jim Nairus, ? , ?, Bill Doran, Rick Mashburn, ? , Ron Perry
FRONT: check, check, Pat Padden, mgr. , Schone Malliet
BACK: check, check, check, check, check, Kevin Daley, Chris Rojik, check, check, Chris Morgan, check
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 28, 2019 15:43:23 GMT -5
When someone mentioned young Ron Perry it reminded me of the way the Boston Marathon winners, Johnny Kelly the elder and Johnny Kelly the younger were often described.
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Post by timholycross on Jan 28, 2019 15:48:56 GMT -5
Yeah, Padden is the person referred to as the guy from the RP the Younger era.
Schone hides his age (66) very well!
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Post by timholycross on Jan 28, 2019 15:52:00 GMT -5
I'm sure someone can help me out. Front L-R: Roger Breslin, Rod Deleaver, ? (I think it's a guy who was a manager),? (one of two people, Lorn Davis or Schone Malliet) Rear L-R: Togo, Ron Perry, Fr. Markey, Jim Maloney, Jim Nairus, ? , ?, Bill Doran, Rick Mashburn, ? , Ron Perry Schone Malliet surely holds the distinction of being the only Crusader who was both (A) a varsity basketball player, and (B) a cheer leader. He was on the cheerleading squad-maybe when he was a junior or senior--and when the cheerleaders came out he would throw down a vicious slam dunk to astonish the crowd. He was a fantastic leaper. I think he also went out for football as a wide receiver but I don't think he saw any game action. ...and I think Kevin Daley was a lacrosse player too- you don't see too many of that combo in college sports.
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Post by hchoops on Jan 28, 2019 15:55:59 GMT -5
Kevin D , 6’8” played in 20 games in 76-77 23-6, Perry, Potter, Vicens
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Post by Ignutz on Jan 28, 2019 16:02:54 GMT -5
Schone Malliet surely holds the distinction of being the only Crusader who was both (A) a varsity basketball player, and (B) a cheer leader. He was on the cheerleading squad-maybe when he was a junior or senior--and when the cheerleaders came out he would throw down a vicious slam dunk to astonish the crowd. He was a fantastic leaper. I think he also went out for football as a wide receiver but I don't think he saw any game action. ...and I think Kevin Daley was a lacrosse player too- you don't see too many of that combo in college sports.
Kevin Daley '77 was a Rugby player, but had played JV for Togo as a freshman. He joined the team as a senior - one of the reasons being as a consequence of the untimely death of Jimmy Gooch in the summer of '76.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 28, 2019 16:04:02 GMT -5
Kevin was a Wheeler guy, guessing class of 1977 who played intramurals for 2 or 3 years but then at 6-6 or 6-7 was asked by Coach Blaney to come out for the team to provide some depth and he ended up getting some playing time. He was “rangy” —very strong for a wiry guy.
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