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Post by gerry on Sept 20, 2019 1:28:46 GMT -5
Ah, that's cute....You like to call them "UMess." It's been a decade since Holy Cross won more than six games in a season, but somehow you still have the gall to take potshots at two neighboring universities whose football teams would still stomp Holy Cross on the field, and are actually trying to compete at the highest level? Your pompous attitude might be a reason why much of Central Mass hates Holy Cross. Hopefully Holy Cross can beat mighty Bucknell this season and atone for that crushing loss from a year ago. And guess what? With the new bowl game at Fenway, there will be more college games there in the coming years. Guess who will be playing in them? Probably the two public universities from New England in FBS that are looking for ways to market and grow their brand, and the game (other than Harvard-Yale which won't ever happen again) that gives the Red Sox the most bang for their buck, certainly more than Dartmouth-Brown.
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Post by thecrossisback on Sept 20, 2019 6:18:08 GMT -5
Ah, that's cute....You like to call them "UMess." It's been a decade since Holy Cross won more than six games in a season, but somehow you still have the gall to take potshots at two neighboring universities whose football teams would still stomp Holy Cross on the field, and are actually trying to compete at the highest level? Your pompous attitude might be a reason why much of Central Mass hates Holy Cross. Hopefully Holy Cross can beat mighty Bucknell this season and atone for that crushing loss from a year ago. And guess what? With the new bowl game at Fenway, there will be more college games there in the coming years. Guess who will be playing in them? Probably the two public universities from New England in FBS that are looking for ways to market and grow their brand, and the game (other than Harvard-Yale which won't ever happen again) that gives the Red Sox the most bang for their buck, certainly more than Dartmouth-Brown. Umass would still stomp Holy Cross on the field?  ? Umess hasn't won more than six games since 2008. In the last five years Bucknell has won 22 games and you have won 16 since 2014. Tell me about mighty UMASS Bring it on unless you're scared. UMass is glorified FCS. Loss after Loss In 2023 you scheduled Merrimack before Penn State. |
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Post by Ignutz on Sept 20, 2019 6:41:28 GMT -5
Well, FSG has hosted such powerhouse matchups as Dartmouth-Brown, BC-UConn, and Maine-UMass in recent years. I hardly think that a matchup involving the two largest schools in New England that would likely draw 20K+ to an otherwise closed ballpark is such an absurd possibility, especially when they could stage multiple high school Thanksgiving games on Wednesday and Thursday. The Red Sox know how to make money off of their ballpark beyond baseball. FSG announced this week the creation of the Fenway Bowl, another FBS post-season event, beginning in December 2020. The game will feature an ACC team against an AAC team. With that coming on line, I doubt there will be any T-giving weekend college football at America’s Most Beloved Ballpark. |
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Post by hc87 on Sept 20, 2019 12:01:43 GMT -5
Kinda smart of the Red Sox to choose mostly non-local schools for the Fenway Bowl imo. I think a lot of locals are kind of "Fenwayed Out" in that it's really no big deal to go there, can't truly tailgate there, football sight lines are poor etc etc
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Post by timholycross on Sept 20, 2019 12:27:17 GMT -5
The article I read about the Fenway Bowl (I think I'd call it the Green Monster Bowl myself) implied that there would still be games circa Thanksgiving. I'm not sure how many would be hs and how many college; but given the setup costs of converting to football; more games make sense.
Of course, what I think they're taking a chance on is a frozen/unfrozen field around Christmas time; do not believe Fenway has any type of heating system in the ground. Field could be a parking lot or a stagmire*.
* yes, it's quagmire, stagmire was a malapropism in a Sopranos episode I always loved.
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Post by timholycross on Sept 20, 2019 12:39:55 GMT -5
Kinda smart of the Red Sox to choose mostly non-local schools for the Fenway Bowl imo. I think a lot of locals are kind of "Fenwayed Out" in that it's really no big deal to go there, can't truly tailgate there, football sight lines are poor etc etc Absolutely- after you've seen a few football games in baseball stadiums, you realize why in the 90s most pro franchises made the decision to construct sport-specific stadia instead of multi-purpose. |
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Post by purplehaze on Sept 23, 2019 13:19:20 GMT -5
It just amazes me how UMass (0-4 this season) is just a mercenary college program now (will UConn follow?) - last week these payouts became public knowledge
2019
Nov. 16 at Northwestern: $1.2 million - UMass got $1.3 for playing Rutgers earlier this season.
2020
Nov. 14 at Auburn: $1.9 million - This was a record when it was initially scheduled.
2021
Sept. 4 at Pittsburgh: $1.3 million - This is one of the newly announced games. It also pits the Minutemen against former coach Mark Whipple, who is now the Panthers’ offensive coordinator.
Oct. 23 at Florida State: $1.5 million - Another newly scheduled game.
2022
Nov. 19 at Texas A&M: $1.7 million - Kyle Field is the fourth largest stadium in the FBS with a capacity of 102,733.
2023
Sept. 2 at Auburn- $1.95 million This is the most UMass has ever received for a game and would be more than any visiting team in the country received in 2019.
Nov. 11 at Penn State: $1.6 million The contract also calls for the creation of a home and home men’s basketball series.
2024
Nov. 23 at Georgia: $1.9 million - This will be UMass’ second trip to Sanford Stadium where they played in 2018.
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Post by gks on Sept 23, 2019 13:26:11 GMT -5
It just amazes me how UMass (0-4 this season) is just a mercenary college program now (will UConn follow?) - last week these payouts became public knowledge 2019 Nov. 16 at Northwestern: $1.2 million - UMass got $1.3 for playing Rutgers earlier this season. 2020 Nov. 14 at Auburn: $1.9 million - This was a record when it was initially scheduled. 2021 Sept. 4 at Pittsburgh: $1.3 million - This is one of the newly announced games. It also pits the Minutemen against former coach Mark Whipple, who is now the Panthers’ offensive coordinator. Oct. 23 at Florida State: $1.5 million - Another newly scheduled game. 2022 Nov. 19 at Texas A&M: $1.7 million - Kyle Field is the fourth largest stadium in the FBS with a capacity of 102,733. 2023 Sept. 2 at Auburn- $1.95 million This is the most UMass has ever received for a game and would be more than any visiting team in the country received in 2019. Nov. 11 at Penn State: $1.6 million The contract also calls for the creation of a home and home men’s basketball series. 2024 Nov. 23 at Georgia: $1.9 million - This will be UMass’ second trip to Sanford Stadium where they played in 2018. Such is the life of an independent. I can't believe that Rutgers has that much cash around. Thank you Big Ten Network. |
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Post by timholycross on Sept 23, 2019 13:27:34 GMT -5
Yes, of course....that's how they will keep UConn afloat as a BCS team.
By the way, Coastal Carolina hung up 62 points on the Minutemen. You call that trying to compete at the highest level?
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Post by hc87 on Sept 23, 2019 13:38:33 GMT -5
It's really all about TV $$$ these days isn't it?
Separate discussion perhaps, but how does a school like Coastal Carolina "afford" being an FBS program? They don't draw much, play in one of the lower FBS conferences, can't have much media $ playing in SEC/ACC country etc etc
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 23, 2019 13:47:56 GMT -5
Coastal Carolina probably does not pay its coaching staff what the staffs at Alabama, Clemson, Michigan, etc get paid. I think for most schools, the more money they take in, the more they will pay out chasing the big-name coaches, building training facilities and player lounges, etc,
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Post by hc87 on Sept 23, 2019 14:45:11 GMT -5
Coastal's HC is a millionaire from Wall Street which helps...but something not every marginal FBS program can rely on obviously.
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Post by purplehaze on Sept 23, 2019 14:53:33 GMT -5
Joe Moglia, who you are referring to is no longer the head coach - he's still there but in an administrative role. Absolutely correct that his background was on Wall St and a very successful one.
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Post by hc87 on Sept 23, 2019 14:58:04 GMT -5
Thanks ph, didn't know he had stepped down.
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 23, 2019 15:03:26 GMT -5
It just amazes me how UMass (0-4 this season) is just a mercenary college program now (will UConn follow?) - last week these payouts became public knowledge 2019 Nov. 16 at Northwestern: $1.2 million - UMass got $1.3 for playing Rutgers earlier this season. 2020 Nov. 14 at Auburn: $1.9 million - This was a record when it was initially scheduled. 2021 Sept. 4 at Pittsburgh: $1.3 million - This is one of the newly announced games. It also pits the Minutemen against former coach Mark Whipple, who is now the Panthers’ offensive coordinator. Oct. 23 at Florida State: $1.5 million - Another newly scheduled game. 2022 Nov. 19 at Texas A&M: $1.7 million - Kyle Field is the fourth largest stadium in the FBS with a capacity of 102,733. 2023 Sept. 2 at Auburn- $1.95 million This is the most UMass has ever received for a game and would be more than any visiting team in the country received in 2019. Nov. 11 at Penn State: $1.6 million The contract also calls for the creation of a home and home men’s basketball series. 2024 Nov. 23 at Georgia: $1.9 million - This will be UMass’ second trip to Sanford Stadium where they played in 2018. With these paydays UMass can't afford to move to their natural fighting weight in FCS. Wonder if the contracts are voided if one of the two teams moves to FCS. |
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Post by td128 on Sept 23, 2019 15:06:45 GMT -5
Joe Moglia is a truly unique individual. Here is background info on him both during his tenure at Coastal and beforehand: goccusports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=550While he was the Head Football Coach at CC, JM reported directly to the President of the school and I am almost certain the AD reported to him (JM). Now that is what I call having your priorities straight.  Moglia promoted a program at CC called BAM, Be a Man and states "it has nothing to do with gender." coachjoemoglia.com/be-a-man He is a truly inspirational individual. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2019 19:10:52 GMT -5
Joe Moglia is a truly unique individual. Here is background info on him both during his tenure at Coastal and beforehand: goccusports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=550While he was the Head Football Coach at CC, JM reported directly to the President of the school and I am almost certain the AD reported to him (JM). Now that is what I call having your priorities straight. Moglia promoted a program at CC called BAM, Be a Man and states "it has nothing to do with gender." coachjoemoglia.com/be-a-man He is a truly inspirational individual. That's an amazing bio.... love it! |
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Post by bfoley82 on Sept 25, 2019 9:41:43 GMT -5
Joe Moglia is a truly unique individual. Here is background info on him both during his tenure at Coastal and beforehand: goccusports.com/coaches.aspx?rc=550While he was the Head Football Coach at CC, JM reported directly to the President of the school and I am almost certain the AD reported to him (JM). Now that is what I call having your priorities straight. Moglia promoted a program at CC called BAM, Be a Man and states "it has nothing to do with gender." coachjoemoglia.com/be-a-man He is a truly inspirational individual. Nice photo of mine in that profile! |
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Post by crusader12 on Sept 25, 2019 9:55:59 GMT -5
Fenway is awful to watch a Red Sox game let alone a football game. Hope they get over themselves and bulldoze that dump and build a quality facility.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 25, 2019 12:37:25 GMT -5
Guessing you hate the Sistine Chapel and Monticello as well
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 25, 2019 14:01:31 GMT -5
Guessing you hate the Sistine Chapel and Monticello as well No good sight lines and their teams never win anything nowadays!  |
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 25, 2019 15:05:13 GMT -5
Wonder what athletic pursuits took place on the lawns of Monticello before American football (1892), baseball (1839) and basketball (1891) were invented?
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 25, 2019 16:03:38 GMT -5
I’d really like to understand the finances of UConn and UMass playing as FBS independents in New England. It seems impossible that they’re better off financially doing that than they would be playing in the CAA for football. I'll look at UConn later. In 2017-18, UMass 'lost' money on every sport. Men's basketball expenses were $4.3 million, football expenses were $10 million. Total spending on athletics for UMass was $38.7M, about $2 million more than HC spent. |
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 25, 2019 16:52:58 GMT -5
UMass Amherst has about 30,500 total students, HC has about 3,000. That means HC pays about nine times as much out of each student tuition received as UMass. How can you doubt HC's commitment?
How that $36 million budget is managed is certainly up for constructive debate.
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Post by crossbball13 on Sept 28, 2019 10:51:57 GMT -5
Ah, that's cute....You like to call them "UMess." It's been a decade since Holy Cross won more than six games in a season, but somehow you still have the gall to take potshots at two neighboring universities whose football teams would still stomp Holy Cross on the field, and are actually trying to compete at the highest level? Your pompous attitude might be a reason why much of Central Mass hates Holy Cross. Hopefully Holy Cross can beat mighty Bucknell this season and atone for that crushing loss from a year ago. And guess what? With the new bowl game at Fenway, there will be more college games there in the coming years. Guess who will be playing in them? Probably the two public universities from New England in FBS that are looking for ways to market and grow their brand, and the game (other than Harvard-Yale which won't ever happen again) that gives the Red Sox the most bang for their buck, certainly more than Dartmouth-Brown. |
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