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Post by purplehaze on Jul 22, 2016 12:36:24 GMT -5
for those of us who take a certain degree of pleasure with the BC program, esp after the 'bagel' seasons in football and basketball, the number of off-season transfers from their hoops team now numbers 'four' with the departure of daryl hicks - from the 'bc interruption' site:
Hicks is the fourth player to transfer out of the Boston College program in the 2016 offseason, joining Sammy Barnes-Thompkins, Idy Diallo and Matt Milon.
While none of the four players departing were regular starters on the team (Barnes-Thompkins started 10 games in Jerome Robinson's usual spot during Robinson's absence due to injury), the departures ultimately create a dilemma in terms of depth and experience. Only 10 players on the Eagles accumulated more than 300 minutes during the 2015-16 season. Of those 10, six will not be on the roster for the Eagles in the 2016-17 season, leaving either due to graduation or transfer.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Jul 22, 2016 20:03:57 GMT -5
BC Athletics is a dumpster fire. Good luck to their FB team trying to beat Clemson and FSU w a QB from Wellesley HS. What a joke.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 22, 2016 21:45:36 GMT -5
Here is hoping bc can run the table in conference games in football and basketball
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jul 22, 2016 23:16:34 GMT -5
Here is hoping bc can run the table in conference games in football and basketball BC could very well take the collar in ACC FB & Hoop again this year. How does Brad Bates keep his job?
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Post by nhteamer on Jul 24, 2016 9:27:22 GMT -5
Wow Just got back from Mass and saw this on Crossports
Fastest answer to a prayer in history.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 24, 2016 10:18:32 GMT -5
Wow Just got back from Mass and saw this on Crossports Fastest answer to a prayer in history. Good job--- keep working it. The bc faithful have no doubt been petitioning St Jude to no avail.....
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Post by hc87 on Jul 25, 2016 11:52:12 GMT -5
Obviously not rooting for it, but BC ( in football anyway) will get bettah....they can't get much worse (record-wise).
Though I took delight in their losses on the gridiron last year, it wasn't as if they were getting blown out week after week. They had a tremendous D and lost a lot of one-score games.
BC hoops is a different story....
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Post by timholycross on Jul 27, 2016 13:21:25 GMT -5
BC Athletics is a dumpster fire. Good luck to their FB team trying to beat Clemson and FSU w a QB from Wellesley HS. What a joke. I don't think you'll ever hear from Fadule (sp?) and Flutie (dwi/suspended and officially a wideout before that happened) again. They brought in a 5th year mercenary from Kentucky and the kid who started the year at qb is back after blowing out his knee. Then again, I think they'll still suck.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Jul 27, 2016 20:30:11 GMT -5
Obviously not rooting for it, but BC ( in football anyway) will get bettah....they can't get much worse (record-wise). Though I took delight in their losses on the gridiron last year, it wasn't as if they were getting blown out week after week. They had a tremendous D and lost a lot of one-score games. BC hoops is a different story.... Yes and Don Brown parlayed that success into a job at Michigan. If you have a minute read some of the bios of the players on the BC football team. Many of them list their other offers from FCS schools. How they think they can beat Florida State and Clemson with kids who chose Boston College over Elon, Wofford and Holy Cross is way beyond me. The crazy thing is they are stealing a ton of kids away from us because their recruiting has been so subpar.
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Post by timholycross on Jul 27, 2016 22:22:47 GMT -5
It's what happens when you think that "Building a Fence Around Greater Boston" equates to building a fence around South Florida
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Post by hcross22 on Aug 2, 2016 8:32:44 GMT -5
BC Athletics is a dumpster fire. Good luck to their FB team trying to beat Clemson and FSU w a QB from Wellesley HS. What a joke. I don't think you'll ever hear from Fadule (sp?) and Flutie (dwi/suspended and officially a wideout before that happened) again. They brought in a 5th year mercenary from Kentucky and the kid who started the year at qb is back after blowing out his knee. Then again, I think they'll still suck. Easiest money I ever made was betting against BC last year whenever Flutie/Fadule were starting. Atrocious Division 1 QB's.
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Post by cmo on Aug 7, 2016 11:39:10 GMT -5
Obviously not rooting for it, but BC ( in football anyway) will get bettah....they can't get much worse (record-wise). Though I took delight in their losses on the gridiron last year, it wasn't as if they were getting blown out week after week. They had a tremendous D and lost a lot of one-score games. BC hoops is a different story.... Yes and Don Brown parlayed that success into a job at Michigan. If you have a minute read some of the bios of the players on the BC football team. Many of them list their other offers from FCS schools. How they think they can beat Florida State and Clemson with kids who chose Boston College over Elon, Wofford and Holy Cross is way beyond me. The crazy thing is they are stealing a ton of kids away from us because their recruiting has been so subpar. I hadn't really thought of that. But BC's lackluster recruiting (by ACC standards) could be hurting us in grabbing what could be some great PL recruits.
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Post by hc87 on Aug 7, 2016 15:07:45 GMT -5
Yes and Don Brown parlayed that success into a job at Michigan. If you have a minute read some of the bios of the players on the BC football team. Many of them list their other offers from FCS schools. How they think they can beat Florida State and Clemson with kids who chose Boston College over Elon, Wofford and Holy Cross is way beyond me. The crazy thing is they are stealing a ton of kids away from us because their recruiting has been so subpar. I hadn't really thought of that. But BC's lackluster recruiting (by ACC standards) could be hurting us in grabbing what could be some great PL recruits. I defer to 94 on mattahs involving recruiting, but I don't think BC is taking (poaching) too many of the recruits we are looking at...particularly in Massachusetts or New England. Not sure how up to date and/or valid this is, but BC only has 3 kids going to BC from Massachusetts (and none from other NE states) in this class: 2 linemen, one from St John's Prep, one from Marshfiield High and Curt Bletzer Jr (that one does hurt) a LB from CM. bostoncollege.247sports.com/Season/2016-Football/Commits
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Post by purplehaze on Sept 19, 2016 9:38:49 GMT -5
(I'll add their football to this thread), for those keeping score at home... it's been 559 days since bc's last acc win in bball or football. did you see that score vs. va tech ? 49-zip
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 19, 2016 10:06:33 GMT -5
I'm hearing from an inside source at bc that a total housecleaning of the athletics department is being contemplated. Also hearing that the current president cares nothing about athletics. Those two thoughts might be in conflict but that's what I've heard
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Post by timholycross on Sept 19, 2016 10:47:45 GMT -5
The apathy may extend a lot deeper than the president. In a lot of ways, it's not the same BC of a generation or two ago (so is HC, of course).
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 19, 2016 11:12:10 GMT -5
It's probably not accurate to say that Fr, Leahy cares nothing. Rather, I think it fairer to say athletics was/is not one of BC's strategic priorities and Fr. Leahy is unwilling to make the investment in athletics that would make it a top tier program.
After all, Leahy's paramount priority is to make BC the foremost Catholic university in the world. Take that Notre Dame!
Aside from that, BC is building several new athletic venues on the former St. John's Seminary grounds, and has released designs for a new student recreation center. I've heard talk they would like to build a smaller version of the Luth fieldhouse on the current baseball field.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Sept 19, 2016 11:28:03 GMT -5
The apathy may extend a lot deeper than the president. In a lot of ways, it's not the same BC of a generation or two ago (so is HC, of course). Average attendance 2015-16 Football 30,200 Hockey, a shade under 5,000 Basketball 3411 And this at a school with over 9,100 undergraduates, or more than 3x HC. Total alumni nearly 180,000, total enrollment 14,100.
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Post by sarasota on Sept 19, 2016 13:06:49 GMT -5
In our lifetime, neither BC--nor Fordham--nor Georgetown--will supercede ND as the U.S.'s leading Catholic university.
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Post by beaven302 on Sept 19, 2016 23:42:53 GMT -5
In our lifetime, neither BC--nor Fordham--nor Georgetown--will supercede ND as the U.S.'s leading Catholic university. +1. Leahy is smoking controlled substances if he thinks that the Chestnut Hill Institute for Unfortunate Catholic Youth can ever surpass Notre Dame. ND has Knute Rockne, Touchdown Jesus, the Great Golden Dome, Rudy Ruettiger, and marching armies of schoolchildren wearing its gear. What does BC have besides the Tower on the Heights and fading memories of Doug Flutie's heroics? That said, HC did best ND in one area in the late 1960s -- food. When I visited my cousin there, I found that the swill served in the ND cafeteria made Kimball food look like gourmet fare.
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Post by hchoops on Sept 20, 2016 7:02:45 GMT -5
In our lifetime, neither BC--nor Fordham--nor Georgetown--will supercede ND as the U.S.'s leading Catholic university. "our lifetime" may be somewhat shorter than some of the younger board members
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Post by hchoops on Sept 20, 2016 7:05:35 GMT -5
In our lifetime, neither BC--nor Fordham--nor Georgetown--will supercede ND as the U.S.'s leading Catholic university. +1. Leahy is smoking controlled substances if he thinks that the Chestnut Hill Institute for Unfortunate Catholic Youth can ever surpass Notre Dame. ND has Knute Rockne, Touchdown Jesus, the Great Golden Dome, Rudy Ruettiger, and marching armies of schoolchildren wearing its gear. What does BC have besides the Tower on the Heights and fading memories of Doug Flutie's heroics? That said, HC did best ND in one area in the late 1960s -- food. When I visited my cousin there, I found that the swill served in the ND cafeteria made Kimball food look like gourmet fare. PP's point was just the opposite Leahy wants BC to be the best academic Catholic U. He allegedly disregards athletics.
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Post by sarasota on Sept 20, 2016 7:25:26 GMT -5
I was ignoring ND athletics, as do the many rankings that place ND at the top of Catholic universities.
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Post by beaven302 on Sept 20, 2016 12:23:46 GMT -5
+1. Leahy is smoking controlled substances if he thinks that the Chestnut Hill Institute for Unfortunate Catholic Youth can ever surpass Notre Dame. ND has Knute Rockne, Touchdown Jesus, the Great Golden Dome, Rudy Ruettiger, and marching armies of schoolchildren wearing its gear. What does BC have besides the Tower on the Heights and fading memories of Doug Flutie's heroics? That said, HC did best ND in one area in the late 1960s -- food. When I visited my cousin there, I found that the swill served in the ND cafeteria made Kimball food look like gourmet fare. PP's point was just the opposite Leahy wants BC to be the best academic Catholic U. He allegedly disregards athletics. My point was only tangentially related to athletics. It's that Notre Dame's long and storied history puts in way ahead of BC in the public mind. As long as ND's reputation precedes it, BC has no chance of overtaking it in any area. The only way that Leahy could make a dent in ND's advantage would be to raise a large amount of money, enabling him to recruit top academics by offering higher salaries and better perks, and to attract more highly-qualified students with scholarships. This was the method used by the once modestly-regarded NYU in closing the gap between it and Columbia.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 20, 2016 15:04:21 GMT -5
Following up on purplehaze's posting that started this delightful thread, I dug deeper into the bc roster to see what is returning. I always like to look at the "% of...." stats as in "% of minutes returning, points returning", etc. bc returns four players who played 608 to 769 minutes in Meznieks, Owens, Robinson, and Turner, plus four players who played sparingly. Those returning players accounted for 45% of minutes, 39% of rebounds, 45% of assists, and a scant 37% of points, suggesting that bc lost a lot of its production from its 7-25 squad. In fact, if you look at the returnees you can calculate that their 717 points in 2,908 minutes of play (14.54 games of 200 player minutes) equates to an abysmal 49 points per game. This is for a team that was outscored 70.5 to 61.2 in last year's woeful season. Of course we know these players may have different roles this year and that new players will join the team, notably the graduate transfer Connor Tava who did not play at Western Michigan last year but who was a starter and solid contributor the two prior seasons. Still, things look bleak for the eagles...
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