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Post by bison137 on Jul 20, 2019 14:26:16 GMT -5
Seymour averaged 9.1 points as a Frosh and was on the All-MAAC rookie team. He had 14 offers out of high school including Pitt, St. John’s, South Florida and Bucknell. And he’s 6’9”. I agree with Sader81 on the long look. Timing seems awfully coincidental. Reports were that virtually all of his offers had been pulled before he had a chance to accept them, as he had a poor AAU summer and poor senior year of HS. Was set to go to prep school after he graduated HS until he got a late spring offer from Siena's Jamion Christian. As others have noted, except for shooting threes he had the worst stats in the nation.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jul 21, 2019 7:13:42 GMT -5
That all this transfer stuff is still going full steam is amazing to me. I mean, if I had no idea where I would be going to school 5-6 weeks from now I would be freaking out.
It does seem like in the end it will be a bit of a game of musical chairs. Now, I'm pretty certain it won't happen, but humor me for a moment - what if SS ended up coming to HC, and Grandi lands at Siena. How crazy would that be - welcome to college basketball free agency!
Just doesn't feel quite right, and I felt this way before our guys entered the portal.
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Post by hchoops on Jul 21, 2019 7:20:16 GMT -5
Transferring has grown worse and the NCAA made it easier with the ridiculous portal
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jul 21, 2019 7:48:56 GMT -5
The roster management for some of these schools is crazy. Check out the U of Buffalo as one example. By my count, they could have 17 scholarship eligible players this year (including 2 sitting out). Now, I know they can only have 13. So, would some of these incoming transfers be walk-ons? Are there some others who will be getting the boot (or already have)? Four either have to have walk on status or be gone. www.collegesportsmadness.com/article/17627
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Jul 21, 2019 10:18:51 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 21, 2019 10:18:51 GMT -5
One unintended consequences of the portal may be converting what were typically four year scholarships at some schools, despite performance to two year "show me" contracts. If the player doesn't show enough, his scholarship is pulled and they replace him with a transfer.
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 21, 2019 10:32:33 GMT -5
Sad consequence. I hope it was unintended.
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Post by trimster on Jul 21, 2019 10:34:44 GMT -5
Transferring has grown worse and the NCAA made it easier with the ridiculous portal If you are a mid or low-major program, it's almost to the point you don't want to recruit a kid who sits on the bench his frosh year or contributes a lot from the get go because in either case, there is a decent chance he may transfer.
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Post by hchoops on Jul 21, 2019 10:44:46 GMT -5
Transferring has grown worse and the NCAA made it easier with the ridiculous portal If you are a mid or low-major program, it's almost to the point you don't want to recruit a kid who sits on the bench his frosh year or contributes a lot from the get go because in either case, there is a decent chance he may transfer. Sad, but much truth to it
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Post by hchoops on Jul 21, 2019 10:46:53 GMT -5
One unintended consequences of the portal may be converting what were typically four year scholarships at some schools, despite performance to two year "show me" contracts. If the player doesn't show enough, his scholarship is pulled and they replace him with a transfer. Possible, but unlikely. The negative recruiting would most likely greatly limit or prevent this
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 21, 2019 11:28:57 GMT -5
The portal does seem to have the potential of creating a recruiting bonanza for power conferences to use mid major and low major transfers as a proving ground. It lets us develop talent at our expense to benefit others.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 21, 2019 11:38:55 GMT -5
The portal does seem to have the potential of creating a recruiting bonanza power conferences to use mid major and low major transfers as a proving ground. It lets us develop talent at our expense to benefit others. That's likely the intention of TPTB that put this in place.
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 21, 2019 11:45:13 GMT -5
Sad, but probably true. There does not seem to be a limit to the ways in which the stronger conferences find ways to hurt mid and low major teams while boosting themselves...and they still get caught violating their own rules. If there were any meaningful penalties for such violations, I might be impressed - or at least feel there was some balance in this system.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 21, 2019 12:06:23 GMT -5
The portal does seem to have the potential of creating a recruiting bonanza for power conferences to use mid major and low major transfers as a proving ground. It lets us develop talent at our expense to benefit others.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 21, 2019 12:16:04 GMT -5
The JG and CG portal entries puts HC in the role of a junior college. The amazing thing is neither player was a disgruntled bench warmer. Both were starters and one was the PG and the other the leading scorer.
Hopefully it will be a wash with two hand picked replacements and much better than losing a sophomore starter to a career ending injury.
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Post by hcpride on Jul 21, 2019 15:16:06 GMT -5
/\ It is indeed odd (peculiar?) that we have 2 (two) outgoing transfers who are neither disgruntled bench-type players nor guys playing well who are looking to go big time. Even in these transfer-happy times those are two standard reasons. There may be an internal dynamic going on we do not know about or it could be just about anything.
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Post by trimster on Jul 21, 2019 15:36:51 GMT -5
The portal does seem to have the potential of creating a recruiting bonanza for power conferences to use mid major and low major transfers as a proving ground. It lets us develop talent at our expense to benefit others. It makes it so much more difficult for the mid to low majors to be a Cinderalla at the Dance.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jul 21, 2019 16:17:53 GMT -5
/\ It is indeed odd (peculiar?) that we have 2 (two) outgoing transfers who are neither disgruntled bench-type players nor guys playing well who are looking to go big time. Even in these transfer-happy times those are two standard reasons. There may be an internal dynamic going on we do not know about or it could be just about anything. Well, in the case of Jacob, how do we know he's not looking to move up?
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Jul 21, 2019 17:28:30 GMT -5
I agree it's all conjecture. What I do think is important to note is, it's not necessarily what we see through our own eyes, it's what a player sees through his. It might be something totally different from our view.
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Post by longsuffering on Jul 21, 2019 17:49:30 GMT -5
If HC is stuck with one or two wasted scholarships for this season, is there any possibility for the coaching staff to review their recruiting database and identify any players who have committed to a prep school for a gap year - not because they need academic improvement, but because they need skill improvement or physical maturity - and offer a player to start at HC in the fall and gain their physical maturity and/or skill improvement at HC where they will be available to contribute in practice and possibly in games and then have three years left to compete for a starting position?
Again, this would be a student who is academically eligible for admittance to HC. File under needle in a haystack?
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Post by trimster on Jul 21, 2019 17:59:41 GMT -5
If HC is stuck with one or two wasted scholarships for this season, is there any possibility for the coaching staff to review their recruiting database and identify any players who have committed to a prep school for a gap year - not because they need academic improvement, but because they need skill improvement or physical maturity - and offer a player to start at HC in the fall and gain their physical maturity and/or skill improvement at HC where they will be available to contribute in practice and possibly in games and then have three years left to compete for a starting position? Again, this would be a student who is academically eligible for admittance to HC. File under needle in a haystack? Do we want to see another class with 6 scholarship players in it because that is where we'd be with 2 very late commitments before September. I'd rather use them for the fall of 2020.
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Post by HCFC45 on Jul 22, 2019 7:38:30 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Jul 22, 2019 7:45:15 GMT -5
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Post by hc6774 on Jul 22, 2019 7:56:15 GMT -5
this piece was posted 7/16...2 days before CG's twitter commit to Fairfield
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Post by hchoops on Jul 22, 2019 8:00:49 GMT -5
Grandison is listed with no destination, then why not Green ?
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Post by hcpride on Jul 22, 2019 10:36:41 GMT -5
/\ It is indeed odd (peculiar?) that we have 2 (two) outgoing transfers who are neither disgruntled bench-type players nor guys playing well who are looking to go big time. Even in these transfer-happy times those are two standard reasons. There may be an internal dynamic going on we do not know about or it could be just about anything. Well, in the case of Jacob, how do we know he's not looking to move up? Anything is possible, this is conjecture, and moving up may be a relative term. No doubt he can find another D-1 team - I was thinking a big time team (think Eric Pascall and Fordham/Viillanova, for example...or Eric Williams Duquesne/Oregon this year) wouldn't burn a schollie while he sits a year. (And of course one doesn't know for certain he would have to sit a year and one doesn't know for certain he is leaving HC)
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