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Post by longsuffering on Jul 24, 2019 23:06:55 GMT -5
Not to crush the mood, but November 22, 1963 must have been a sad and poignant day on campus.
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 25, 2019 6:13:52 GMT -5
It was indeed. The details of that day and of Dr. Powers history class are still vivid in my mind.  |
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Post by hchoops on Jul 25, 2019 7:45:58 GMT -5
Not to crush the mood, but November 22, 1963 must have been a sad and poignant day on campus. It certainly was.both. (non political) Chris Matthews has done a segment on his show from the campus, reliving some of his and others’ experiences. |
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Post by purplehaze on Jul 30, 2019 14:53:17 GMT -5
The webcam for the CAC is finally back on line - you can follow the progress here - the footprint that has been created by removing the parking areas seems exceedingly large for the CAC. Maybe Phreek can comment on that. www.holycross.edu/webcams/center-arts-and-creativity |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Jul 30, 2019 18:00:15 GMT -5
The webcam for the CAC is finally back on line - you can follow the progress here - the footprint that has been created by removing the parking areas seems exceedingly large for the CAC. Maybe Phreek can comment on that. www.holycross.edu/webcams/center-arts-and-creativityThe size of the site is indeed large. I believe that is because there will be a lot of green, landscaped space surrounding the CAC. The landscape architect is [Mr.] Laurie Olin. He is about 80 years old, but still going strong. 247wallst.com/technology-3/2018/12/20/landscape-architect-apple-park/www.planetizen.com/node/64060Laurie Olin is not wasting his time on HC and the planting of a few shrubs around the building foundation. _______________ The webcam also shows how vehicles entering the upper campus from City View now have a direct shot, after a stop sign, to McCarthy Lane (extended), Before HC did the re-alignment in conjunction with construction of the new parking lot, this could only be (theoretically) done with a zig and a zag. Also from the latest issue of the Holy Cross Magazine, The Jo will feature a landscaped path between the Hoval (north side of Hogan) to the outdoor play space at the east end of The Jo. |
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Post by hchoops on Jul 30, 2019 18:37:30 GMT -5
I believe that is where we played stickball ( automatics) in good weather (using the back of the field house as a rectangle home plate.) and slid down to Wheeler in snow on the trays from Kimball
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Post by rgs318 on Jul 30, 2019 19:47:47 GMT -5
I remember the tray “sleds” very well...and trying to stop on the icy parking lot before hitting the building.  |
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Post by hc6774 on Aug 1, 2019 7:32:40 GMT -5
The webcam for the CAC is finally back on line - you can follow the progress here - the footprint that has been created by removing the parking areas seems exceedingly large for the CAC. Maybe Phreek can comment on that. www.holycross.edu/webcams/center-arts-and-creativityThe size of the site is indeed large. I believe that is because there will be a lot of green, landscaped space surrounding the CAC. The landscape architect is [Mr.] Laurie Olin. He is about 80 years old, but still going strong. 247wallst.com/technology-3/2018/12/20/landscape-architect-apple-park/www.planetizen.com/node/64060Laurie Olin is not wasting his time on HC and the planting of a few shrubs around the building foundation. _______________ The webcam also shows how vehicles entering the upper campus from City View now have a direct shot, after a stop sign, to McCarthy Lane (extended), Before HC did the re-alignment in conjunction with construction of the new parking lot, this could only be (theoretically) done with a zig and a zag.Also from the latest issue of the Holy Cross Magazine, The Jo will feature a landscaped path between the Hoval (north side of Hogan) to the outdoor play space at the east end of The Jo. In the spring I was told by a fundraiser, that the use of City View, a public way, would be minimized during construction. Access to upper campus off College St would continue to through Gate 7 on the road past Hogan... widened for 2 lanes. I guess a temporary surface will be laid down before Labor Day to accommodate the traffic until the PAC is complete, |
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 1, 2019 11:05:10 GMT -5
There is precedent in Worcester for a College to take over a public way. WPI did it and promptly closed the street to through traffic for safety reasons as drivers were taking a shortcut through campus iirc. If and when HC owns all the property between the campus and a certain point on City View they could petition, with their hat and a few goodies in hand, to do whatever is in the best interest of HC with that section of the street. But then again, a means of egress for emergencies would probably have to remain. Our upper campus has less points of entry and exit than WPI.
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Post by purplehaze on Aug 1, 2019 12:24:11 GMT -5
'fewer' points etc..
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Post by hc6774 on Aug 1, 2019 16:08:21 GMT -5
There is precedent in Worcester for a College to take over a public way. WPI did it and promptly closed the street to through traffic for safety reasons as drivers were taking a shortcut through campus iirc. If and when HC owns all the property between the campus and a certain point on City View they could petition, with their hat and a few goodies in hand, to do whatever is in the best interest of HC with that section of the street. But then again, a means of egress for emergencies would probably have to remain. Our upper campus has less points of entry and exit than WPI. WPI owned both sides of the street and also had a pedestrian bridge in place for years when the city made it a private way... the street had long been the main entrance to the central area of WPI's campus understand that when HC owns both sided of City View, they may put in small, upgraded housing units on it rather than use it as the main entry to upper campus. |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 1, 2019 19:50:27 GMT -5
IMO, HC is a long way from even considering converting City View to a private street.
First, it would have to acquire the two properties it does not presently own. One is owned in trust, and remaining? trustee is in his 80s. Under Massachusetts law, --as I understand it -- if he were to sell the property or create a new trust, the sale proceeds or the asset value of the new trust could be tapped to pay for medical or long-term care costs. The second is owned by a couple in their early 70s, and the house has been in the family for at least 30 years. I suppose it might also be in a trust; it would be wise for them to have done so.
Second, again IMO, HC will retain the houses on the south side of City View as taxable properties. If City View were to be incorporated into the campus, these properties would become non-taxable.
Third, the house on the SE corner of College and City View is privately owned and has a College St. address. Access to garages and a second building in the rear of this house is via City View.
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 2, 2019 1:06:02 GMT -5
Good to know these additional facts. Thanks. Holy Cross is about as well protected from fire as possible because the McKeon Rd. Fire Station abuts the campus on land donated to the city by HC. As long as campus roadways are kept open and not clogged during construction, fire trucks can reach any part of the campus in 2-3 minutes. But other than the old ROTC building burning, which may not have been accidental, I can't think of any significant fires on campus, which is pretty good property maintenance.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 2, 2019 6:19:51 GMT -5
HC's list of all the great things it has done / does for Worcester includes donating the land for the fire station. HC also says it is [primarily] responsible for plowing College St from College Sq to City View, and City View. Can't remember if Caro is also on the plow list. McKeon is not.
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If one walks up College St on the west side, the house number for all the houses owned by HC is a standardized, house-shaped plaque by the front door. Same goes for City View.
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 2, 2019 7:50:46 GMT -5
I may not walk up College Street from College Square to City View in this heat, but I'll drive it next time I'm in the Worm. Good way to see how HC's Manifest Destiny is progressing.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 2, 2019 9:01:08 GMT -5
I may not walk up College Street from College Square to City View in this heat, but I'll drive it next time I'm in the Worm. Good way to see how HC's Manifest Destiny is progressing. When the weather cools, and you decide on a perambulation, take a walk up Kendig (from Davenport). Last two houses on the south side are owned by HC. If HC were to ever build a new rink, dollars to donuts, these two houses would be close to center ice. Back on Davenport, walk up the dirt road (only one house on it which Hc does not own) that is Avon Lane, but the rest of what you see is either owned by HC or a natural gas pipeline company. The pipeline runs under the HC athletic fields at the top of the hill. |
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Post by HCFC45 on Aug 28, 2019 8:45:31 GMT -5
I watched the blasting that took place yesterday where the Center for the Arts and Creativity will be. Quite impressive. Right now they are laying those big rubber mats over a second blast site. There are some 25 to 30 of these large mats that cover the demolition site. I would expect today's blast to occur within 1 to 2 hours from now. Quite a site to see it when it happens! Also, drilling on the left side for more blasting. ! |
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Post by HCFC45 on Aug 28, 2019 9:00:03 GMT -5
Mats are all down. The water truck should be coming to drench the mats to minimize the dust (they did this yesterday). Once that is done they clear the area, stop all traffic around the area and BOOM!!!  ! |
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Post by purplehaze on Aug 28, 2019 9:22:47 GMT -5
Will all of the blasting be completed before the students arrive over the weekend? Have to imagine the school wants to minimize such disruption once the school year begins.
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Post by HCFC45 on Aug 28, 2019 9:28:15 GMT -5
Not sure about that haze... Water truck has arrived! Don't know what those "orange cheerleader pom poms" are for, but a few guys picked them up just behind the Demeo Field Office hut. Maybe they are to wave an all clear ready to go signal from different areas. Shouldn't be too long now before the BLAST!!! ! Does anyone know how you could record this? |
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Post by HCFC45 on Aug 28, 2019 9:37:10 GMT -5
Well, another blast! Take the mats off and get ready for another one! Wash, rinse, repeat! ! |
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Post by hchoops on Aug 28, 2019 9:59:36 GMT -5
Well, another blast! Take the mats off and get ready for another one! Wash, rinse, repeat! ! Have you considered a blast by blast career ? |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 28, 2019 10:07:08 GMT -5
I understand that HC IT is using these webcams to create a time lapse record of construction. Whether that includes every blast, I don't know.
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I think blasting will still be ongoing after students return.
They do need to create a pedestrian corridor along the west side of the side, so that students can safely walk between Luth and Hogan.
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Post by hchoops on Aug 28, 2019 10:15:11 GMT -5
Or make it an orientation challenge for the first year students.
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 28, 2019 22:38:53 GMT -5
I may not walk up College Street from College Square to City View in this heat, but I'll drive it next time I'm in the Worm. Good way to see how HC's Manifest Destiny is progressing. When the weather cools, and you decide on a perambulation, take a walk up Kendig (from Davenport). Last two houses on the south side are owned by HC. If HC were to ever build a new rink, dollars to donuts, these two houses would be close to center ice. Back on Davenport, walk up the dirt road (only one house on it which Hc does not own) that is Avon Lane, but the rest of what you see is either owned by HC or a natural gas pipeline company. The pipeline runs under the HC athletic fields at the top of the hill. I took this self tour a couple of weeks ago. I had a good feeling seeing all the houses HC owns and realizing there have been no reports of lawsuits or charges of gentrification or bullying/manipulating of poor or elderly neighbors to get their property. These claims are not uncommon when large institutions expand their footprint into established residential neighborhoods. Holy Cross has made a point of being a good neighbor since all the neighborhood issues Father McFarland had to resolve. Thanks for the recommendation. |
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