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Post by HCFC45 on Aug 22, 2019 22:24:10 GMT -5
There are close losses and there are BIZARRE close losses. In the latter category, Gilmore didn't just have one, which probably most coaches have had no matter how good (take the Pats' loss to Miami this year). Gilmore had three of those: Dartmouth, Wagner and Albany. I won't go into the gory details. Don't know what the guy could have done to prevent any of those. Seriously? It's called "clock management" and "play calling"! Not too hard to figure out!!! !
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 22, 2019 22:48:01 GMT -5
It's called "clock management" and "play calling"! Not too hard to figure out!!! ! perhaps "player instruction" can be added to that as well. I think of the extraordinary comeback win over Georgetown (watch the video highlights to brighten any day). HC pulls ahead but Georgetown has the ball in desperation time. Chris Riley intercepts a pass and starts instinctively returning the interception. Then he is smart enough to know that all he has to do is down the ball and we win the game, so he slides in an open area. If he kept running for glory he might have had the ball punched out of his arms (Albany scenario?) and returned back the other way for a Hoya TD. Whether that was instruction or just player smarts, I don't know, but I don't think we got the right player instruction versus Albany.
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Post by HC92 on Aug 22, 2019 22:51:41 GMT -5
I hereby recommend that we put the hornet’s nest in the trash can and move on. I’m sure timhc did not realize that he was running the risk of turning this into a 30-page thread about TG frustrations.
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Post by hc87 on Aug 22, 2019 22:57:16 GMT -5
Back to the question at hand.....I just find it hard to believe, particularly now with scholarships again, that HC doesn't have a decent if not very good QB year in, year out.
It looks like we have some very good QB recruits as Frosh or rising Frosh coming in next year, but how did we end up scrambling (no pun intended) at this position post Pujals the last few years?
Hope someone emerges...but I'd be lying if this lack of any experience at this position makes me think we are destined for another disappointing season.
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Post by CHC8485 on Aug 23, 2019 15:27:28 GMT -5
Interesting note for those of you waiting on the depth chart in the game note to reveal the starter ... While preparing to make my pick in the Villanova at Colgate game, I was curious how many starters were returning for 'Nova and so checked their game notes. On the depth chart for QB they list: Pos | No | Name | Elig | Ht. | Wt. | Hometown | QB | 12 | Daniel Smith | Jr. | 6-0 | 205 | Leesburg, VA | (or) | 9 | Jack Schetelich | Jr. | 6-2 | 205 | Cranford, N.J. | (or) | 8 | Qadir Ismail | R-Fr. | 6-6 | 220 | Bel Air, Md. |
They don't use the parenthetical OR for any other position. See page 12 here: villanova.com/documents/2019/8/22//G1_Colgate.pdf?id=8123So while we hope to know the starter next Monday, perhaps coaches and SIDs have come up with a standard to conceal their Game 1 starter and leave the other team (and fans) guessing.
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Post by efg72 on Aug 23, 2019 15:35:29 GMT -5
Navy knows whoever starts they don’t have much film, if any, on our QBs to study
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Post by hc87 on Aug 23, 2019 16:53:15 GMT -5
Deep throated, little birdy says it is Deg Jr and it really wasn't a close decision. Clifford and Considine battling for #2....Butash learning/developing as a Frosh....
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Post by timholycross on Aug 23, 2019 17:07:51 GMT -5
I hereby recommend that we put the hornet’s nest in the trash can and move on. I’m sure timhc did not realize that he was running the risk of turning this into a 30-page thread about TG frustrations. I don't see how clock management prevents a simple PAT from being blocked. The other two instances (esp UA) my critics may have a point.
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Post by jsherman on Aug 25, 2019 0:00:43 GMT -5
"After a competitive camp battle among senior Emmett Clifford, who started three games last year before being displaced by Geoff Wade, junior Connor Degenhardt, junior Matt Considine, a transfer from Wake Forest, and freshman Chris Butash, Degenhardt is at the top of the team's first two-deep of the season."
"He has great knowledge of the offense, and he looks really different physically now from what he looked like in spring," Chesney said. "We certainly like the way he looks."
The six votes for dehenhardt win!
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Post by HC92 on Aug 25, 2019 8:15:54 GMT -5
Degenhardt was clearly in the lead as of the scrimmage I went to 9 days ago so this isn’t a surprise to the team. Will be interesting to see who is listed as the backup when the two-deep is released. My bet is Clifford. .
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 25, 2019 10:55:10 GMT -5
This "pick the starter" is one contest I don't mind losing...as long as HC wins!
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 25, 2019 11:06:15 GMT -5
It has been a while. Where do I get to see the two-deep?
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Post by HC92 on Aug 25, 2019 11:12:51 GMT -5
It has been a while. Where do I get to see the two-deep? It’s usually in the game notes. Can’t remember what day those usually get released. Tuesday?
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 25, 2019 11:15:50 GMT -5
Thanks!
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Post by breezy on Aug 25, 2019 11:36:13 GMT -5
Game notes are usually released on the Monday prior to the game.
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 25, 2019 12:23:18 GMT -5
Thanks, I'll check it out tomorrow.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 25, 2019 12:26:17 GMT -5
Our competition does not become official until the QB trots onto the field for the first set of downs. It looks like signs are pointing to CD but we'll have to wait to be certain of the winner.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Aug 25, 2019 12:30:15 GMT -5
Back to the question at hand.....I just find it hard to believe, particularly now with scholarships again, that HC doesn't have a decent if not very good QB year in, year out. It looks like we have some very good QB recruits as Frosh or rising Frosh coming in next year, but how did we end up scrambling (no pun intended) at this position post Pujals the last few years? Hope someone emerges...but I'd be lying if this lack of any experience at this position makes me think we are destined for another disappointing season. Did last year disappoint you?
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Post by hcpride on Aug 25, 2019 12:46:28 GMT -5
I do like to see a starting QB with footspeed (and an ability to pass, of course) at our level - yesterday's game (Colgate v Villanova) showcased two guys who can throw and run when they have to. I'd like to see us with one of those again at some point.
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Post by jsherman on Aug 25, 2019 12:51:12 GMT -5
Degenhardt was clearly in the lead as of the scrimmage I went to 9 days ago so this isn’t a surprise to the team. Will be interesting to see who is listed as the backup when the two-deep is released. My bet is Clifford. . Based on Friday's scrimmage, I'd say considine
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Post by joe on Aug 25, 2019 13:01:10 GMT -5
For this particular game, more than most, who starts may be different than who finishes.
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Post by jsherman on Aug 25, 2019 13:37:10 GMT -5
For this particular game, more than most, who starts may be different than who finishes. Agreed. However, Connor still had the best showing during scrimmage... Just based on one scrimmage that I watched.
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Post by hc87 on Aug 25, 2019 14:05:58 GMT -5
Back to the question at hand.....I just find it hard to believe, particularly now with scholarships again, that HC doesn't have a decent if not very good QB year in, year out. It looks like we have some very good QB recruits as Frosh or rising Frosh coming in next year, but how did we end up scrambling (no pun intended) at this position post Pujals the last few years? Hope someone emerges...but I'd be lying if this lack of any experience at this position makes me think we are destined for another disappointing season. Did last year disappoint you? It ended well, but lest we forget, we were a 45 yd FG away from potentially starting 0-7. I wouldn't say I was disappointed about last year given it being Chesney's 1st year, just saying let's pump the brakes on how successful a season it was.
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 25, 2019 15:53:08 GMT -5
...and one play away from beating both Yale and Harvard in the same football season for the first time in school history.
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Post by breezy on Aug 26, 2019 13:23:30 GMT -5
From the Game Notes -- Holy Cross Two-Deep:
OFFENSE:
LT 63 Brian Foley 6-4 314 Jr. 77 Grady Smith 6-4 285 So.
LG 64 Brett Boddy 6-3 302 Sr. 75 John Brekke 6-3 292 Jr.
C 73 Max Daurelle 6-3 288 Sr. 62 Noah FitzGerald 6-2 272 Jr.
RG 68 Jack Bowler 6-3 295 Jr. 57 Nick Olsofka 6-4 281 So.
RT 70 Jackson Dennis 6-7 308 Sr. 66 Neal Nasuti 6-4 288 So.
QB 10 Connor Degenhardt 6-6 214 Jr. 13 Emmett Clifford 6-0 197 Sr.
TB 1 Domenic Cozier 5-9 181 Sr. 9 Miles Alexander 5-11 198 Sr. 36 Peter Oliver 6-0 219 So.
TE 14 Derek Mountain 6-5 251 Sr. 46 Cole Pirwitz 6-3 251 Sr.
WR 8 Tenio Ayeni 6-2 219 Jr. 84 Dominik Thomas 6-1 185 Fr.
WR 88 Spencer Gilliam 5-11 188 So. 15 Ayir Asante 6-0 180 Fr.
WR 3 Jon Jon Roberts 5-9 181 Sr. 82 Connor Kennedy 6-0 177 So.
DEFENSE:
DE 17 Benton Whitley 6-3 251 Jr. 98 Matt Cedeno 6-3 252 So.
DT 99 Mark Ebo 6-3 260 Sr. 96 Jordan Jackson 6-3 255 Jr.
DT 97 Jason Modak 6-1 268 So. 94 Noah Johnson 6-5 271 Jr.
DE 55 Kevin Bucceroni 6-3 245 Sr. 92 Dan Kuznetsov 6-3 236 So.
LB 42 Cullen Honohan 6-3 225 So. 43 Jacob Dobbs 6-0 222 Fr.
LB 48 Matt Johnson 5-10 215 Sr. 44 Liam Doran 6-1 225 So.
CB 26 Walter Reynolds 5-11 179 So. 11 Josh Hicks 6-0 187 Jr.
SS 4 Corey Stefanik 6-3 202 Sr. 6 Kendrick Knight 6-2 192 Jr.
WS 23 Joe Lang 5-11 210 Jr. 28 Cole Mannion 6-1 203 Sr.
FS 7 Chris Riley 6-3 198 Sr. 22 Alex Johnson 6-0 195 Sr.
CB 27 John Smith 5-11 185 So. 2 Grant Holloman 5-11 171 So.
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