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Post by thecrossisback on Aug 14, 2019 11:30:30 GMT -5
Wake Forest vs Clemson Skip to 1.50:50 Matt Considine makes a good throw to the end zone and the pass is dropped. 1.54:38 must watch
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 14, 2019 12:30:33 GMT -5
He put both throws in the receiver's hands, first one was dropped, second one was tightly covered. He may be able to shred some PL defenses. Two years of practice at WF should be an asset. In addition to the two returnees we have two newcomers nicely spaced as junior and freshman. Nice roster development. But we can't lose the freshman to the portal because we need J.Sherman on the board for four full years. Keep the whole squad pumped and jacked coach, it's nice feeling positive.
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 14, 2019 12:39:51 GMT -5
Dean Nagle is still listed on the roster as a QB but wasn't mentioned by Chesney. Is he being reassigned as a receiver? He would have good size as a split end.
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Post by dharry13 on Aug 14, 2019 13:11:00 GMT -5
Nagle was working out as a WR. And he looked pretty good doing it. That whole group has become an asset rather than a glaring hole. Ayeni - STUD; Gilliam can certainly play, Nagle looked pretty good; Jewell looked pretty good; Roberts looked pretty good; Asante might even start. Add in Coulson, Kriemer, Thomas, Kennedy - all who look legit and this group is good for years to come. Believe Purdy is on D. Morrison the add on, walk-on looked capable too as he has good size.
Huge hole to fill at QB. If one of these guys emerges with consistency there are plenty of weapons.
TE is solid as well, but very very thin.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 14, 2019 13:45:06 GMT -5
Nagle was working out as a WR. And he looked pretty good doing it. That whole group has become an asset rather than a glaring hole. Ayeni - STUD; Gilliam can certainly play, Nagle looked pretty good; Jewell looked pretty good; Roberts looked pretty good; Asante might even start. Add in Coulson, Kriemer, Thomas, Kennedy - all who look legit and this group is good for years to come. Believe Purdy is on D. Morrison the add on, walk-on looked capable too as he has good size. Huge hole to fill at QB. If one of these guys emerges with consistency there are plenty of weapons. TE is solid as well, but very very thin. No mention of Henry Teeter--he came in as a touted TE from Texas but caught no passes last year--saw some action on special teams. Roster has him as a wide receiver this year. I like Derek Mountain at TE--glad he is playing another season
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Post by hc6774 on Aug 14, 2019 14:02:25 GMT -5
Nagle was working out as a WR. And he looked pretty good doing it. That whole group has become an asset rather than a glaring hole. Ayeni - STUD; Gilliam can certainly play, Nagle looked pretty good; Jewell looked pretty good; Roberts looked pretty good; Asante might even start. Add in Coulson, Kriemer, Thomas, Kennedy - all who look legit and this group is good for years to come. Believe Purdy is on D. Morrison the add on, walk-on looked capable too as he has good size. Huge hole to fill at QB. If one of these guys emerges with consistency there are plenty of weapons. TE is solid as well, but very very thin. No mention of Henry Teeter--he came in as a touted TE from Texas but caught no passes last year--saw some action on special teams. Roster has him as a wide receiver this year. I like Derek Mountain at TE--glad he is playing another season Pirwitz returns after being knocked out for the season against BC. He started at TE in the first 2 games. He played in all 11 games as a soph. If he's healthy he should see action.
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Post by HC92 on Aug 14, 2019 14:13:04 GMT -5
Nagle was working out as a WR. And he looked pretty good doing it. That whole group has become an asset rather than a glaring hole. Ayeni - STUD; Gilliam can certainly play, Nagle looked pretty good; Jewell looked pretty good; Roberts looked pretty good; Asante might even start. Add in Coulson, Kriemer, Thomas, Kennedy - all who look legit and this group is good for years to come. Believe Purdy is on D. Morrison the add on, walk-on looked capable too as he has good size. Huge hole to fill at QB. If one of these guys emerges with consistency there are plenty of weapons. TE is solid as well, but very very thin. No mention of Henry Teeter--he came in as a touted TE from Texas but caught no passes last year--saw some action on special teams. Roster has him as a wide receiver this year. I like Derek Mountain at TE--glad he is playing another season Basketball team might need Mountain more than football team.
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 14, 2019 14:16:06 GMT -5
There is potential greater injury risk against two FBS teams on the schedule. Unavoidable but nice to have depth and the strong OOC schedule should help in league play.
If we achieve any upset wins or unexpected strong performances, I hope the season progresses in less of a roller coaster fashion than when we started out almost beating FBS UConn.
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 14, 2019 14:22:54 GMT -5
No mention of Henry Teeter--he came in as a touted TE from Texas but caught no passes last year--saw some action on special teams. Roster has him as a wide receiver this year. I like Derek Mountain at TE--glad he is playing another season Basketball team might need Mountain more than football team. Why not play both? A solid volleyball player played for WBB after VB season ended and contributed about a decade ago. Can't remember her name but remember she was Lisa Andrews roommate and the niece or great niece of a Jesuit.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Aug 14, 2019 14:28:02 GMT -5
There is potential greater injury risk against two FBS teams on the schedule. HC, and any FCS team for that matter, are no more or less likely to incur injuries against an FBS team vs. a team in their own conference.
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Post by CHC8485 on Aug 14, 2019 14:33:15 GMT -5
Believe you are referring to Caitlin Agostinacchio, '05.
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Post by HC92 on Aug 14, 2019 14:36:49 GMT -5
There is potential greater injury risk against two FBS teams on the schedule. HC, and any FCS team for that matter, are no more or less likely to incur injuries against an FBS team vs. a team in their own conference. I know this debate has been had before on the board but is there any evidence/data that either side is correct?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 14, 2019 14:45:09 GMT -5
Looking at the physics of it, the FBS players may be 5% faster and 10% heavier: I don't think that should generate that much greater force than what the FCS guys see every other week.
This is not like a D-1 vs D-3 game with 50 pound differences at some positions
Just one non-expert's thoughts
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Post by dogproud on Aug 14, 2019 14:51:09 GMT -5
We suffered a lot of injuries at BC last year. It seems that based on the size and speed of all players, amplified that much more when playing a Power 5 team, there would be more injuries. As an individual player, the risk is not significantly increased but over 60 participants on average, there has to be an increased risk.
Certainly not increased to the point that we should not schedule. SOOOO looking forward to Navy.
Also must say I was almost equally excited by the TE position analysis in the last few hours. That is probably as in-depth as we will see this fall. 14 is a stud in every way (size skill, leadership), 46 will play a lot as well, then 40 and 89. 92 is back at DE but could come over if necessary. TE are used all over the field now, lining up as a slot, backfield, put in motion--and not used in some spread formations. With 14 and 46, we must be as good as any in the PL.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Aug 14, 2019 14:55:59 GMT -5
HC, and any FCS team for that matter, are no more or less likely to incur injuries against an FBS team vs. a team in their own conference. I know this debate has been had before on the board but is there any evidence/data that either side is correct? I'm not sure, but I do know what when Bucknell and Georgetown ran the triple option, we -- along with other teams who played them -- were more susceptible to injuries based on the style of play / blocking. I suppose that since Navy is option-based, we could sustain more injuries than usual...but I'd argue this is because their offense, not the size of their players.
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Post by hc6774 on Aug 14, 2019 15:01:44 GMT -5
I know this debate has been had before on the board but is there any evidence/data that either side is correct? I'm not sure, but I do know what when Bucknell and Georgetown ran the triple option, we -- along with other teams who played them -- were more susceptible to injuries based on the style of play / blocking. I suppose that since Navy is option-based, we could sustain more injuries than usual...but I'd argue this is because their offense, not the size of their players. good point... see the discussion last year www.sbnation.com/college-football/2018/9/18/17873532/ncaa-cut-block-rule-army-navy-air-force-georgia-tech
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Aug 14, 2019 15:02:29 GMT -5
There is potential greater injury risk against two FBS teams on the schedule. Unavoidable but nice to have depth and the strong OOC schedule should help in league play. If we achieve any upset wins or unexpected strong performances, I hope the season progresses in less of a roller coaster fashion than when we started out almost beating FBS UConn. UConn was the most horrendous 1A squad in the country last yr, so "almost beating" them actually wasn't as big achievement as some think.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Aug 14, 2019 15:07:50 GMT -5
There is potential greater injury risk against two FBS teams on the schedule. Unavoidable but nice to have depth and the strong OOC schedule should help in league play. If we achieve any upset wins or unexpected strong performances, I hope the season progresses in less of a roller coaster fashion than when we started out almost beating FBS UConn. UConn was the most horrendous 1A squad in the country last yr, so "almost beating" them actually wasn't as big achievement as some think. We played UConn two years ago. They were the 17th worst team in FBS, according to Sagarin.
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Post by dogproud on Aug 14, 2019 15:41:41 GMT -5
Interesting to analyze the crossover of teams and individuals between run-of-the-mill FBS and FCS. We know the top teams and players are elite. But Fordham had a third stringer from University of Florida transfer in last year with lots of hype, he started and ran for all of 476 yards last season in the PL. I hope our WF transfer puts it all together in the next three weeks but he certainly isn't a league above the HC bunch. Many of our kids may be later to develop or they work really hard and can compete--not at Clemson--but many programs. Alim Muhammad transferred to Vandy as a fifth-year and started three games (SEC!).
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 14, 2019 15:42:12 GMT -5
So, not the "worst" then...at the time HC played them
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Post by dogproud on Aug 14, 2019 15:47:56 GMT -5
A team could be "most horrendous" and not be the absolute worst ranked so I think you are actually in agreement!
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 14, 2019 15:51:59 GMT -5
OK, but I am not sure how "the most horrendous 1A squad in the country is not also the worst."
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Post by longsuffering on Aug 14, 2019 16:33:52 GMT -5
The Huskies started a freshman QB and we started a fifth year NFL prospect at QB. We still couldn't hang on and seal the deal. Lady Luck (aka preparation meets opportunity) owes us a few close wins at the end.
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Post by southernsader on Aug 14, 2019 17:01:33 GMT -5
We suffered a lot of injuries at BC last year. It seems that based on the size and speed of all players, amplified that much more when playing a Power 5 team, there would be more injuries. As an individual player, the risk is not significantly increased but over 60 participants on average, there has to be an increased risk. Certainly not increased to the point that we should not schedule. SOOOO looking forward to Navy. Also must say I was almost equally excited by the TE position analysis in the last few hours. That is probably as in-depth as we will see this fall. 14 is a stud in every way (size skill, leadership), 46 will play a lot as well, then 40 and 89. 92 is back at DE but could come over if necessary. TE are used all over the field now, lining up as a slot, backfield, put in motion--and not used in some spread formations. With 14 and 46, we must be as good as any in the PL. Names would be nice.
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Post by hcpride on Aug 14, 2019 18:21:51 GMT -5
The Huskies started a freshman QB and we started a fifth year NFL prospect at QB. We still couldn't hang on and seal the deal. Lady Luck (aka preparation meets opportunity) owes us a few close wins at the end. In a season with very very few bright spots, the fact we outscored UConn the first half is one. I think they yanked their under performing frosh QB in the second half and then reeled off 3 straight TDs to beat us by 7. Last year we won some very close games (Yale, Fordham and Georgetown come immediately to mind). Hopefully we still have 'Lady Luck" on our side this year.
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