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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 13, 2019 22:10:07 GMT -5
Thanks-I'm reminded of the Dec 2003 game at Louisville which I attended. That was not a great HC team-finished 13-15 and KenPom had us at #171, middle of the pack. Still, we had some pretty good players on that team such as Jave Meade, Kevin Hamilton, and freshmen Torey Thomas and Keith Simmons. I don't think they were used to the quickness of the Louisville team as I believe Louisville blocked 15 or 20 shots: drives or putbacks or floaters or plain jump shots that worked against BU or Harvard or Fordham or Brown in the OOC were rejected by the tall, quick leapers on Top 20 Louisville. I'll bet that's the greatest number of blocks by any HC opponent in a game--not sure we keep track of such things, though.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Nov 14, 2019 6:00:08 GMT -5
RJ was also excellent at creating space for himself by changing pace and using his body to create an advantage. Butler just puts his head down, goes until he can’t go any further, and shoots. It doesn’t work against D1 players. But can’t fully blame him, as the previous staff didn’t really pay any attention to details and fundamentals. Fingers crossed that RJ and BN will have a positive impact on his offensive game. Of course it works against D-1 players. Check the guy's career two-point shooting percentage: .475 , which isn't far off from RJ's .492 for his career, no matter how good RJ was at creating space, changing pace, etc.. So, if AB does just "put his head down" and toss the ball, up he's making about half his shots, just as RJ did. Now, if you were to dig deeper, you might conclude that Austin Butler has had great problems with his style of play when he comes up against the cream of Division-1. He had two horrendous games versus Providence and Michigan last year and another versus Maryland to start this season. On twos, his composite is an abysmal 5/31 in those three games. Against all other teams he is over .500 on twos for his career. So, could it be that his style of play works very well when he is playing against guys who, as a team, are at his level of athleticism, but cannot, should not, must not, try to do the same thing against super quick defenders? That's this non-expert's POV. I look forward to seeing him driving to the basket and scoring the rest of the season. If CBN and CRJ really want to help AB out with his offensive game, they might want to start by looking at film of last year's Stony Brook game. Without good coaching, AB managed to have a real strong performance.
Another example of overcoming hurdles of bad coaching is Jehyve. On his own, he was able to become an elite high post passer that resembled the best of, like, some of those classic Princeton post players from back in the day. All on his own; what a coincidence!
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Post by hcpride on Nov 14, 2019 7:29:56 GMT -5
Of course it works against D-1 players. Check the guy's career two-point shooting percentage: .475 , which isn't far off from RJ's .492 for his career, no matter how good RJ was at creating space, changing pace, etc.. So, if AB does just "put his head down" and toss the ball, up he's making about half his shots, just as RJ did. Now, if you were to dig deeper, you might conclude that Austin Butler has had great problems with his style of play when he comes up against the cream of Division-1. He had two horrendous games versus Providence and Michigan last year and another versus Maryland to start this season. On twos, his composite is an abysmal 5/31 in those three games. Against all other teams he is over .500 on twos for his career. So, could it be that his style of play works very well when he is playing against guys who, as a team, are at his level of athleticism, but cannot, should not, must not, try to do the same thing against super quick defenders? That's this non-expert's POV. I look forward to seeing him driving to the basket and scoring the rest of the season. If CBN and CRJ really want to help AB out with his offensive game, they might want to start by looking at film of last year's Stony Brook game. Without good coaching, AB managed to have a real strong performance.
Yes.
I thought the SBU game was one of the best of his college career and one of our very best wins last year. It is also a good lesson for what AB brings to the table and what he does not.
He stayed away from the inside attempts against more athletic and taller foes (and subsequent blocked shots) and instead created opportunities maximizing his talents. He went 5-7 on 3-point shooting enroute to 21 points. He took only 10 shots total (7 3-pointers and 3 2-pointers) from the field and took 0 foul shots.
I think this succinctly makes the point that a few of us are making concerning AB.
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