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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 5, 2022 17:32:25 GMT -5
Clearly Kosmalski must be a great recruiter to get these results at Swarthmore. Recruiting is selling--an opinion I have expressed many times on this site--and if he can recruit the best D-3 players to Swarthmore he could recruit good D-1 players to Holy Cross. Maybe he's the basketball equivalent of Bob Chesney.... I agree about this....
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Post by efg72 on Jan 5, 2022 18:20:01 GMT -5
Watch what was recruited while he was the lead assistant at Davidson McKillop picked the list of recruits, and his three/four assistants delivered One of McKillop, Matheny, Fox, Kosmalski, and Sweeney were at all of our games
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Post by timholycross on Jan 5, 2022 18:21:16 GMT -5
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Post by crosspride on Jan 5, 2022 19:52:23 GMT -5
Kosmalski’s name has been thrown around here in the past and in this thread like we’re the only low/mid major program fans with Google. It’s almost a certainty he has had opportunities to move up and hasn’t. Why would he then decide to come to Holy Cross? He’d be the 4th coach in like 8 years, and coming off a season where the prior head coach (Nelson) was fired after his first full D1 season for all of his recruits.
Maybe $1M and a 10 year guaranteed contract? I’d be all for it but it’s just not realistic.
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Post by HC92 on Jan 6, 2022 8:27:06 GMT -5
Kodmalski may or may not be willing to leave Swarthmore for a PL-type job. It wouldn’t be hard for Kit to find out. If he’s open to it, he should be a (the?) top candidate whenever we decide to look for a new coach. I think McKillop is in the second year of a 5 year contract so the Davidson job may not be opening soon. They may also have to go with the successor-in-place route if he knows he’s going to retire at the end of the current deal so as not to impact recruiting, etc.
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Post by trimster on Jan 6, 2022 8:35:48 GMT -5
Kosmalski’s name has been thrown around here in the past and in this thread like we’re the only low/mid major program fans with Google. It’s almost a certainty he has had opportunities to move up and hasn’t. Why would he then decide to come to Holy Cross? He’d be the 4th coach in like 8 years, and coming off a season where the prior head coach (Nelson) was fired after his first full D1 season for all of his recruits. Maybe $1M and a 10 year guaranteed contract? I’d be all for it but it’s just not realistic. Excellent point. The HC gig is probably viewed as a career ended when it comes to D1 head coaching by those in the biz. Another reason to root for Nelson to turn it around starting tomorrow.
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Post by hc17 on Jan 6, 2022 10:29:03 GMT -5
Kosmalski’s name has been thrown around here in the past and in this thread like we’re the only low/mid major program fans with Google. It’s almost a certainty he has had opportunities to move up and hasn’t. Why would he then decide to come to Holy Cross? He’d be the 4th coach in like 8 years, and coming off a season where the prior head coach (Nelson) was fired after his first full D1 season for all of his recruits. Maybe $1M and a 10 year guaranteed contract? I’d be all for it but it’s just not realistic. Excellent point. The HC gig is probably viewed as a career ended when it comes to D1 head coaching by those in the biz. Another reason to root for Nelson to turn it around starting tomorrow. This underscores a broader point: Can you currently build a winning program at HC? While many will quickly point to the Willard years to prove this point, I'm confident that HC can be a top-3 program in the conference year over year. If I'm a head coaching candidate, HC's facilities rank towards the top in the conference (maybe the best) and you have a plethora of New England Prep schools in your backyard. Are academics a roadblock to recruiting? In the PL, just look at the success of our rival institutions with comparable academic profiles. A basketball coach doesn't need to look far on how to sell HC....just compare notes with Chesney. Do I suspect a guy like Kosmalski has the right to be a little picky? Yes, I do. With that said, building successful program at HC is doable. If you can't land a lauded D3 coach in Kosmalski, Joe Gallo at Merrimack, who recently signed an extension I believe, is someone I'd make an aggressive push to bring to HC. Won at the D2 & D1 level, local, youth, former Ivy assistant, and has a defined style of play that has yielded results. To add, I love the schedule that Gallo put together this past year. Merrimack played Rutgers, Gonzaga, Indiana, and Virginia Tech in the out of conference slate. Stark contrast when comparing it to our OOC schedule. Finally, it will be difficult to pull Joe from his alma mater, but I do think that would be a solid "statement" hire.
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Post by billyball on Jan 6, 2022 12:33:24 GMT -5
I noticed in the last couple of game notes no mention of Coach Nelson and his record. Did I miss something?
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 6, 2022 13:02:10 GMT -5
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Post by crosspride on Jan 6, 2022 13:19:32 GMT -5
Excellent point. The HC gig is probably viewed as a career ended when it comes to D1 head coaching by those in the biz. Another reason to root for Nelson to turn it around starting tomorrow. This underscores a broader point: Can you currently build a winning program at HC? While many will quickly point to the Willard years to prove this point, I'm confident that HC can be a top-3 program in the conference year over year. If I'm a head coaching candidate, HC's facilities rank towards the top in the conference (maybe the best) and you have a plethora of New England Prep schools in your backyard. Are academics a roadblock to recruiting? In the PL, just look at the success of our rival institutions with comparable academic profiles. A basketball coach doesn't need to look far on how to sell HC....just compare notes with Chesney. Do I suspect a guy like Kosmalski has the right to be a little picky? Yes, I do. With that said, building successful program at HC is doable. If you can't land a lauded D3 coach in Kosmalski, Joe Gallo at Merrimack, who recently signed an extension I believe, is someone I'd make an aggressive push to bring to HC. Won at the D2 & D1 level, local, youth, former Ivy assistant, and has a defined style of play that has yielded results. To add, I love the schedule that Gallo put together this past year. Merrimack played Rutgers, Gonzaga, Indiana, and Virginia Tech in the out of conference slate. Stark contrast when comparing it to our OOC schedule. Finally, it will be difficult to pull Joe from his alma mater, but I do think that would be a solid "statement" hire. While facilities are strong and may be the best in the PL, our record of firing/moving on from head coaches is, unquestionably, the worst. Interesting that it is something that has spanned 3 ADs as well. Are there 1-2 connected alums who may be the constant?
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Post by kot1972 on Jan 6, 2022 13:38:08 GMT -5
I would hope that Stan Grayson, Bill Doran and Ronnie Perry Jr. would be on any hiring committee and work in unison with the search firm. It seems to me that for the positions of AD and head BB coach the most consistent factor in the last few hires has been the search firm. How is that working out?
Just hire a 40 to 50 year old with a proven track record of winning who has a live personality when interviewed. Someone with passion that can recruit. Sounds like our football coach doesn't it. Due to lack of experience factor, RJ would not be on my candidate list.
Please share our feelings with the new AD. As many contacts as possible. The state of the BB program for a prolonged period is an embarrassment to our school.
KOT72
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Post by billyball on Jan 6, 2022 14:06:48 GMT -5
I have not been asleep The last 2 1/2 years Kaftan. I read the game notes for every game. Until the last couplff we of games there is usually a section on the coach and their coaching record at Holy Cross and career and some biographical notes. Fir at least the last 2 games there is no mention of Nelson.
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 6, 2022 14:15:52 GMT -5
My last post was not intended to be taken literally. It was a flippant remark as I am sure you are well aware of what’s transpired in recent basketball history at HC.
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Post by efg72 on Jan 6, 2022 14:19:56 GMT -5
I would hope that Stan Grayson, Bill Doran and Ronnie Perry Jr. would be on any hiring committee and work in unison with the search firm. It seems to me that for the positions of AD and head BB coach the most consistent factor in the last few hires has been the search firm. How is that working out? Just hire a 40 to 50 year old with a proven track record of winning who has a live personality when interviewed. Someone with passion that can recruit. Sounds like our football coach doesn't it. Due to lack of experience factor, RJ would not be on my candidate list. Please share our feelings with the new AD. As many contacts as possible. The state of the BB program for a prolonged period is an embarrassment to our school. KOT72 KOT I hope you are right It would be better if an internal group put together the list of ideal candidates for the search firm and then have the Search Firm do the leg work with a brief on each of the candidates We should know what we want and need, let them do a clearance for each and then internally begin interviewing and be prepared to pay and change the image of the program Good thing with hoops it isn't that hard to turn it around quickly. In football Chesney and team did a great job in rebuilding this in a few years Kit has the opportunity to get off to a great start by getting football contracts done, solving the basketball riddle, and then prepare for a long career at Holy Cross where he can rebuild the other programs, grow the relationship with the community and transform the image of Holy Cross Athletics--- 2022 holds so much promise!!!
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 6, 2022 14:20:25 GMT -5
I have not been asleep The last 2 1/2 years Kaftan. I read the game notes for every game. Until the last couplff we of games there is usually a section on the coach and their coaching record at Holy Cross and career and some biographical notes. Fir at least the last 2 games there is no mention of Nelson. Thanks for pointing this out. It provides me a rare opportunity to post a compliment about the HC athletics communication team. I roll my eyes when the athletic website of a college has a long advertorial for a head coach who has a losing record like he/she is George Washington crossing the Delaware. Congratulations to HC for using discretion. If there is little positive to say, say little or nothing and focus on the players, opponents, etc.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 6, 2022 14:28:05 GMT -5
Excellent point. The HC gig is probably viewed as a career ended when it comes to D1 head coaching by those in the biz. Another reason to root for Nelson to turn it around starting tomorrow. This underscores a broader point: Can you currently build a winning program at HC? While many will quickly point to the Willard years to prove this point, I'm confident that HC can be a top-3 program in the conference year over year. If I'm a head coaching candidate, HC's facilities rank towards the top in the conference (maybe the best) and you have a plethora of New England Prep schools in your backyard. Are academics a roadblock to recruiting? In the PL, just look at the success of our rival institutions with comparable academic profiles. A basketball coach doesn't need to look far on how to sell HC....just compare notes with Chesney. Do I suspect a guy like Kosmalski has the right to be a little picky? Yes, I do. With that said, building successful program at HC is doable. If you can't land a lauded D3 coach in Kosmalski, Joe Gallo at Merrimack, who recently signed an extension I believe, is someone I'd make an aggressive push to bring to HC. Won at the D2 & D1 level, local, youth, former Ivy assistant, and has a defined style of play that has yielded results. To add, I love the schedule that Gallo put together this past year. Merrimack played Rutgers, Gonzaga, Indiana, and Virginia Tech in the out of conference slate. Stark contrast when comparing it to our OOC schedule. Finally, it will be difficult to pull Joe from his alma mater, but I do think that would be a solid "statement" hire. I would think Gallo is more than happy with what he has done with Merrimack and building up that program. They already have a Power 5 win over Northwestern.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jan 6, 2022 14:51:07 GMT -5
I have not been asleep The last 2 1/2 years Kaftan. I read the game notes for every game. Until the last couplff we of games there is usually a section on the coach and their coaching record at Holy Cross and career and some biographical notes. Fir at least the last 2 games there is no mention of Nelson. Astute observation. My guess is that this was on Charlie Bare (surprise, surprise). Nelson did not have the standard section on him and his coaching record / background (see below) going into the La Salle game since he missed that game due to corona. Once he returned, Bare probably forgot to insert this section back into the game notes. NELSON LEADS THE CRUSADERS: Brett Nelson is in his third season as the head men’s basketball coach at Holy Cross in 2021-2022, with an overall record of 10-45. This is the first collegiate head coaching position in the career of Nelson, who is the 18th head coach in program history. Nelson came to Holy Cross after spending five seasons on the coaching staff at Marquette University. During his five years at Marquette, including two seasons as associate head coach, Nelson helped the Golden Eagles to an overall record of 97-69 and two trips to the NCAA Tournament. Prior to his time at Marquette, Nelson was an assistant coach at Arkansas, Ball State, Drake and Marshall. A 2004 graduate of the University of Florida, Nelson was a three-year starter for the Gators and a member of four NCAA tournament teams.
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Post by hc17 on Jan 6, 2022 15:13:46 GMT -5
This underscores a broader point: Can you currently build a winning program at HC? While many will quickly point to the Willard years to prove this point, I'm confident that HC can be a top-3 program in the conference year over year. If I'm a head coaching candidate, HC's facilities rank towards the top in the conference (maybe the best) and you have a plethora of New England Prep schools in your backyard. Are academics a roadblock to recruiting? In the PL, just look at the success of our rival institutions with comparable academic profiles. A basketball coach doesn't need to look far on how to sell HC....just compare notes with Chesney. Do I suspect a guy like Kosmalski has the right to be a little picky? Yes, I do. With that said, building successful program at HC is doable. If you can't land a lauded D3 coach in Kosmalski, Joe Gallo at Merrimack, who recently signed an extension I believe, is someone I'd make an aggressive push to bring to HC. Won at the D2 & D1 level, local, youth, former Ivy assistant, and has a defined style of play that has yielded results. To add, I love the schedule that Gallo put together this past year. Merrimack played Rutgers, Gonzaga, Indiana, and Virginia Tech in the out of conference slate. Stark contrast when comparing it to our OOC schedule. Finally, it will be difficult to pull Joe from his alma mater, but I do think that would be a solid "statement" hire. I would think Gallo is more than happy with what he has done with Merrimack and building up that program. They already have a Power 5 win over Northwestern, Are you insinuating that he'd be willing to make the jump to HC or another comparable program?
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Post by hc17 on Jan 6, 2022 15:42:30 GMT -5
This underscores a broader point: Can you currently build a winning program at HC? While many will quickly point to the Willard years to prove this point, I'm confident that HC can be a top-3 program in the conference year over year. If I'm a head coaching candidate, HC's facilities rank towards the top in the conference (maybe the best) and you have a plethora of New England Prep schools in your backyard. Are academics a roadblock to recruiting? In the PL, just look at the success of our rival institutions with comparable academic profiles. A basketball coach doesn't need to look far on how to sell HC....just compare notes with Chesney. Do I suspect a guy like Kosmalski has the right to be a little picky? Yes, I do. With that said, building successful program at HC is doable. If you can't land a lauded D3 coach in Kosmalski, Joe Gallo at Merrimack, who recently signed an extension I believe, is someone I'd make an aggressive push to bring to HC. Won at the D2 & D1 level, local, youth, former Ivy assistant, and has a defined style of play that has yielded results. To add, I love the schedule that Gallo put together this past year. Merrimack played Rutgers, Gonzaga, Indiana, and Virginia Tech in the out of conference slate. Stark contrast when comparing it to our OOC schedule. Finally, it will be difficult to pull Joe from his alma mater, but I do think that would be a solid "statement" hire. While facilities are strong and may be the best in the PL, our record of firing/moving on from head coaches is, unquestionably, the worst. Interesting that it is something that has spanned 3 ADs as well. Are there 1-2 connected alums who may be the constant? At some point, the BoT needs to be held accountable for the last 4 hires. With that said, I don't think Kearney, Brown, Carmody (retired) or Nelson (barring divine intervention) deserved more time than they were given. While a potential candidate may look at the revolving door at the Athletic Director's office as a concern, I don't think a candidate would turn the job down based on the fate's of the previous four coaches. With the exception of Kearney (1 year), Milan had 5 years and Carmody abruptly retired. Even if Nelson is let go after year 3, these jobs are too rare to pass up if an offer is extended. Only the chosen few will hesitate in my opinion. I like our chances of attracting a talented coach to this dumpster fire, but perhaps my glasses are shaded an extra tint of purple today.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 6, 2022 15:43:46 GMT -5
I would think Gallo is more than happy with what he has done with Merrimack and building up that program. They already have a Power 5 win over Northwestern, Are you insinuating that he'd be willing to make the jump to HC or another comparable program? No...actually the opposite. Why leave a program that already has more accomplished during their D-1 run to rebuild a program at about the same caliber? The NEC isn't that far behind the Patriot League as the Sagarin Ratings have the Patriot League at 29 and the NEC at 30.
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Post by hc17 on Jan 6, 2022 16:03:46 GMT -5
Are you insinuating that he'd be willing to make the jump to HC or another comparable program? No...actually the opposite. Why leave a program that already has more accomplished during their D-1 run to rebuild a program at about the same caliber? The NEC isn't that far behind the Patriot League as the Sagarin Ratings have the Patriot League at 29 and the NEC at 30. Can't dispute that it'd be difficult to pry him away from his alma mater in Merrimack. It'd take a sizeable pay increase. While I don't think it would be a factor, but Merrimack is still ineligible for the NCAA tournament for 2022 & 2023. Does that make HC more attractive? No because I don't see us competing for an NCAA tourney berth next season realistically.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jan 6, 2022 16:05:30 GMT -5
Are you insinuating that he'd be willing to make the jump to HC or another comparable program? No...actually the opposite. Why leave a program that already has more accomplished during their D-1 run to rebuild a program at about the same caliber? Money?
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jan 6, 2022 16:10:34 GMT -5
Guy on the upswing isn't coming for a money grab in a dismal situation: terrible team in a poor & invisible league that's no better than where he is.
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Post by hc17 on Jan 6, 2022 16:18:17 GMT -5
Guy on the upswing isn't coming for a money grab in a dismal situation: terrible team in a poor & invisible league that's no better than where he is. Perhaps a sobering reality....a slightly below .500 retread seems to be in the forecast.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 6, 2022 16:35:59 GMT -5
PLEASE
No more assistants, especially older ones
Get a successful head coach from D-3 or D-2, I don't care if the guy is 28 years old
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