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Post by efg72 on Nov 23, 2022 7:39:25 GMT -5
I did
Last spring he said he would come back as a HC or Assistant
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Post by alum on Nov 23, 2022 8:11:52 GMT -5
At the end of this season, Sachs will have completed three seasons since he lost the Salisbury job. Kit can do his due diligence, talk to all the people he needs to talk to about this, and, if he is satisfied that Sachs is rehabilitated, consider him for the job. There may not be a lot of people who are going to be willing to take a chance on our job and there are probably not a lot willing to take a chance on Sachs. This could be a good fit. Here is an article about his prior termination by a columnist who admits to being a fan. www.capitalgazette.com/sports/ac-cs-andy-sachs-column-20181219-story.html
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Post by Crosser on Nov 23, 2022 9:50:39 GMT -5
At the end of this season, Sachs will have completed three seasons since he lost the Salisbury job. Kit can do his due diligence, talk to all the people he needs to talk to about this, and, if he is satisfied that Sachs is rehabilitated, consider him for the job. There may not be a lot of people who are going to be willing to take a chance on our job and there are probably not a lot willing to take a chance on Sachs. This could be a good fit. Here is an article about his prior termination by a columnist who admits to being a fan. www.capitalgazette.com/sports/ac-cs-andy-sachs-column-20181219-story.htmlThis writer concluded his column by recommending Sachs for a D-II or D-III head coaching position.
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Post by alumni111 on Nov 23, 2022 10:14:49 GMT -5
One other thing to consider: as I was reminded by a HCAF email yesterday, "Giving Tuesday" is next week, where dollars are directed to particular sports. If memory serves, the last time only 1 of 2 other sports finished BEHIND HCMBB, and the number of participants was, I believe, not only shockingly low, but more than one other sport. Roll that around, considering the program's rich and long history. When you can't even get hoops alums interested . . .
If HC wants to avoid another embarassing "data point" re: men's hoops -- as well as miss out on an opportunity to raise money for the program -- this needs to be kept in mind. It's hardly the only factor, but definitely another one. Especially if key people make it known that if Nelson remains, no giving on Tuesday.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 23, 2022 10:28:04 GMT -5
Well, now just another point of the man meeting the time because hasn't our basketball program sunk to D-2/D-3 level?
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Post by alum on Nov 23, 2022 10:32:07 GMT -5
At the end of this season, Sachs will have completed three seasons since he lost the Salisbury job. Kit can do his due diligence, talk to all the people he needs to talk to about this, and, if he is satisfied that Sachs is rehabilitated, consider him for the job. There may not be a lot of people who are going to be willing to take a chance on our job and there are probably not a lot willing to take a chance on Sachs. This could be a good fit. Here is an article about his prior termination by a columnist who admits to being a fan. www.capitalgazette.com/sports/ac-cs-andy-sachs-column-20181219-story.htmlThis writer concluded his column by recommending Sachs for a D-II or D-III head coaching position. True, but the article was written a long time ago. I think he has served his time in purgatory and deserves a shot. I am simply saying that his past problems should not disqualify him. I have become a believer about hiring winning head coaches no matter where they were before over guys who are career assistants. Maybe there are better candidates. I can't wait to find out.
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Post by joe on Nov 23, 2022 10:37:25 GMT -5
Jay Wright.
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Post by coachrt on Nov 23, 2022 11:50:49 GMT -5
Sorry but Andy Sachs will not be a candidate if the men's job was to open. A patriot League school is not going to hire a JUCO coach even if he was a former Assistant. I understand he is a good coach and is well qualified but in this day and age it won't happen. Holy Cross will consider D1 Assistants, Current D1 head coaches, Successful D2 or D3 coaches and that's about it.
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Post by bigfan on Nov 23, 2022 12:02:10 GMT -5
No on Andy Sachs
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Post by HC92 on Nov 23, 2022 12:04:31 GMT -5
Sorry but Andy Sachs will not be a candidate if the men's job was to open. A patriot League school is not going to hire a JUCO coach even if he was a former Assistant. I understand he is a good coach and is well qualified but in this day and age it won't happen. Holy Cross will consider D1 Assistants, Current D1 head coaches, Successful D2 or D3 coaches and that's about it. You’re probably right but he has won a lot at many different places. The #1 assistant role might be a great fit depending on the head coach. Would have to be someone with whom he already has a connection, probably through HC. New head coaches don’t want to bring in assistants they don’t know.
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 23, 2022 12:05:26 GMT -5
Geez, I thought from reading Crossports, like the link posted above, that Andy was a proven successful head D-2/D-3 head coach. My reading comprehension has obviously deteriorated. So, his schools where he had those great winning records are jucos? I guess I need to do more background research. Thanks for the correction.
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Post by HC92 on Nov 23, 2022 12:14:57 GMT -5
Geez, I thought from reading Crossports, like the link posted above, that Andy was a proven successful head D-2/D-3 head coach. My reading comprehension has obviously deteriorated. So, his schools where he had those great winning records are jucos? I guess I need to do more background research. Thanks for the correction. Bethany 2009-15 (D3) Salisbury 2015-18 (D3) Chesapeake 2019-present (JUCO)
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 23, 2022 12:23:41 GMT -5
So, after his firing/resignation, he took a job to keep his hands in coaching at a juco. Doesn't eliminate him from consideration IMHO. Others may know more about him than posted here and why they think he'd be a non-candidate.
Of course this is all academic as long as Brett remains employed by HC.
Edit: What do I know? I reposted my comments after Brett was hired that were vey positive. I'll leave it to others who are more expert. I try to learn from my mistakes.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Nov 23, 2022 12:30:55 GMT -5
Bethany 2009-15 (D3). 117-49. Two NCAA appearances, four ECAC appearances. Best winning percentage in program history. Salisbury 2015-18 (D3). 59-24. Two NCAA appearances. Best winning percentage in program history. Chesapeake 2019-present (JUCO). Took over a team that had gone 8-16, and hadn't had a winning season in a decade. Went 18-9 his first year, last year went 23-3, and ranked as high as #4 nationally in JUCO class. Best single season winning percentage in program history.Andy. Sachs. Wins. And he understands and values Holy Cross culture and its student-athletes on and off the court.
Nothing to see here. . . .
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Post by crusader1970 on Nov 23, 2022 15:58:49 GMT -5
I’ve read most of this 21 page thread. If it weren’t so sad , it would have been very entertaining.
I guess it’s good that virtually everyone (including bring back caro) is now is on the same page: it’s OVER for Coach Nelson.
The only issue now is “when” and who replaces him.
If, as efg posted, Andy is anxious to come back, IMO he should be the leading candidate. Of course we should consider all applicants who have had head coaching experience but, absent some surprisingly strong candidate, Andy should get the job.
He knows HC and is a proven winner. One blemish on his resume for a minor lapse in judgement should not disqualify him. After all doesn’t Holy Cross and the Catholic Church believe in redemption? 😉
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Post by sader1970 on Nov 23, 2022 16:02:31 GMT -5
Excellent point! I think many here have even forgiven Ralph for a much more serious "blemish," leaving Holy Cross for Ricky P.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Nov 23, 2022 16:04:00 GMT -5
Andy emphasis is on a players Basketball IQ when recruiting and coaching. I distinctly remember that as being said in a conversation I had with him at the Hoops Hall of Fame Classic about 14 years ago, when discussing various players in the tournament that weekend. Has anyone had a conversation with other coaches where they make it a point regarding their strategy? PS: Basketball IQ is a term referring to how well a player reads the game. It is one of the trickiest, and hardest to define, aspects of any basketball player. While scores and stats are easy to see on a sheet, understanding how well one adapts to and reads the game can be a bit trickier. www.basketballforcoaches.com/basketball-iq/www.ibsabasketball.com/what-is-basketball-iq-and-how-to-improve-yours/The other day, while watching the #1 team in Women’s Basketball play the #2 team in Women’s Basketball. In overtime, a player on the #2 team called a timeout when there was no time outs remaining, thus a technical foul. An example of a player not exhibiting high basketball IQ.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Nov 23, 2022 16:22:19 GMT -5
Excellent point! I think many here have even forgiven Ralph for a much more serious "blemish," leaving Holy Cross for Ricky P. Not only a blemish….but according to my Baltimore Catechism from 2nd grade at least a Venial Sin that requires 10 Hail Marys and five Our Fathers. 😇
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 23, 2022 16:33:45 GMT -5
Andy emphasis is on a players Basketball IQ when recruiting and coaching. I distinctly remember that as being said in a conversation I had with him at the Hoops Hall of Fame Classic about 14 years ago, when discussing various players in the tournament that weekend. Has anyone had a conversation with other coaches where they make it a point regarding their strategy? PS: Basketball IQ is a term referring to how well a player reads the game. It is one of the trickiest, and hardest to define, aspects of any basketball player. While scores and stats are easy to see on a sheet, understanding how well one adapts to and reads the game can be a bit trickier. www.basketballforcoaches.com/basketball-iq/www.ibsabasketball.com/what-is-basketball-iq-and-how-to-improve-yours/The other day, while watching the #1 team in Women’s Basketball play the #2 team in Women’s Basketball. In overtime, a player on the #2 team called a timeout when there was no time outs remaining, thus a technical foul. An example of a player not exhibiting high basketball IQ. Didn’t a Hoya do that in a national championship game years ago?
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Post by WorcesterGray on Nov 23, 2022 16:38:08 GMT -5
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Post by WorcesterGray on Nov 23, 2022 16:44:24 GMT -5
Georgetown's Fred Brown with a different blunder in 1982.
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Post by Crosser on Nov 23, 2022 22:22:12 GMT -5
Well, now just another point of the man meeting the time because hasn't our basketball program sunk to D-2/D-3 level? Sadly, I have to agree. But, only with the weally, weally good D-2/D-3 teams.
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 23, 2022 22:47:11 GMT -5
Sorry but Andy Sachs will not be a candidate if the men's job was to open. A patriot League school is not going to hire a JUCO coach even if he was a former Assistant. I understand he is a good coach and is well qualified but in this day and age it won't happen. Holy Cross will consider D1 Assistants, Current D1 head coaches, Successful D2 or D3 coaches and that's about it. Look at it this way coach: Andy has a similar winning record turning around programs in lower divisions as Coach Chesney. Now imagine how much more perfect a fit Chesney would have been for Holy Cross when he was hired if before he became a D-3 Head Coach he was an assistant to Coach Duffner at Holy Cross like Andy was to Coach Willard.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Nov 23, 2022 23:20:01 GMT -5
For those clamoring for Andy Sachs, prepare to be disappointed when/if Hughes launches Nelson.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Nov 24, 2022 0:34:55 GMT -5
Who would you believe is in the pipeline for Kit? …..
Current Speculation?
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