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Post by longsuffering on Nov 22, 2022 12:40:12 GMT -5
Stats are how you look at them. John Gallagher 2017–18 Hartford 19–14 11–5 3rd CIT First Round 2018–19 Hartford 18–15 10–6 4th 2019–20 Hartford 18–15 9–7 3rd NCAA Division I Cancelled 2020–21 Hartford 15–9 8–6 4th NCAA Division I Round of 64 After the 21 season, UHart announced dropping out of D-1. I'm looking at these stats favorably.
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Post by gks on Nov 22, 2022 13:00:47 GMT -5
I honestly think this current administration has basketball on the back burner. It's all about football. IMO as it should. Honestly other than the stretch with Ralph, who most of the administration was afraid of, it hasn't been good for a long, long time. HC is better off putting resources into hockey. Hockey, to me, is the back burner. There's no reason football and basketball success have to be an either/or proposition.
I thought Nelson should have been fired last spring, and I think the outcome of this season was entirely foreseeable eight months ago. But as I said back then, I don't think it was unreasonable to keep Nelson for another year, nor do I think that decision was a statement about lack of prioritization of the program. Kit needs to get this hire right, and I think he has a better chance at that in spring 2023 than in spring 2022 (when he had been on the job for about 15 minutes).
Nelson's a lame duck at this point. Kit may not have been sure of that back in the spring, but he at least had an idea it could turn out this way. He's going to end up with a full year to do the legwork to find Nelson's successor.
I think we're all influenced by the "Chesney model", and given that other paths haven't worked in the last 15 years, that one does seem worth exploring.
But.... in this age of the transfer portal, it seems to me that the overriding requirement is an understanding of what makes HC special, an ability to identify good fits for what HC offers, and sell that fit to recruits. So, if I had to pick a preferred candidate right now, I'd say Torey Thomas... with Andy Sachs as his lead assistant.
I didn't say it's an either/or situation. I just don't think the current administration cares as much about basketball. That's a personal opinion. When it comes to being competitive....the current situation in college basketball makes it really, really hard for schools like HC to compete. What really good player is going to want to come play in the Patriot League? And even if you get lucky and land a highly sought after recruit one good year and he's gone. I can tell you one thing, you're not going to attract high caliber talent by scheduling two D3s a year.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Nov 22, 2022 13:09:18 GMT -5
Stats are how you look at them. John Gallagher 2017–18 Hartford 19–14 11–5 3rd CIT First Round 2018–19 Hartford 18–15 10–6 4th 2019–20 Hartford 18–15 9–7 3rd NCAA Division I Cancelled 2020–21 Hartford 15–9 8–6 4th NCAA Division I Round of 64 After the 21 season, UHart announced dropping out of D-1. A nice cut-off for Gallagher fans to start with 17-18, but what about his first 7 seasons? Do you really think a coach would survive this HC environment with a .393 winning percentage through 7 years? The "In Ovah His Head?" thread would be on 10K pages at that point. 2010–11 Hartford 11–20 7–9 6th 2011–12 Hartford 9–22 7–9 6th 2012–13 Hartford 17–14 10–6 4th CIT First Round 2013–14 Hartford 17–16 10–6 3rd 2014–15 Hartford 14–16 7–9 5th 2015–16 Hartford 10–23 4–12 T–7th 2016–17 Hartford 9–23 4–12 7th
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Post by rgs318 on Nov 22, 2022 13:09:59 GMT -5
D3 teams do not carry a disease. If HC also has highly rated opponents on the same schedule that does make a difference.
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Post by hc17 on Nov 22, 2022 13:17:00 GMT -5
If we're taking suggestions, Joe Gallo (Merrimack) and Luke Murray (UConn) are two names that have different backgrounds, but I think are somewhat realistic. Why would Gallo be interested? He already has his program rolling at Merrimack in a similar level league... It's a fair question, but I would imagine Holy Cross can provide better resources than Merrimack as well as a more competitive salary. Whether or not that is enough to pull him away from his alma mater, I'm not sure. I think he checks just about every box if the HC job opens up.
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Post by coachrt on Nov 22, 2022 13:30:17 GMT -5
Tom Crean would be a huge disaster. His personality alone would alienate everyone on campus. Andy Sachs would have been a good hire a few years ago but his little issue that resulted in him stepping down at St. Mary's and ending up at a JUCO takes him out of the running. Again, go after someone like Jeff Brown at Middlebury or Kevin App at Williams. Two successful coaches who know how to recruit in a selective academic. Dave Paulson probably has one more shot at being a head coach. Could be a good fit. Of course you don't need to look any further when hiring a coach from a lower level then Marist when they hired Mike Maker from Williams. Marist prides itself on having the most strict admission standards in the MAAC and they thought bringing in Maker would work. Well let's just say things didn't work out so good and the program was more of a dumpster fire then it was previously. So hiring is never a sure thing. A dark horse I would throw out there would be John Becker at Vermont. I know he's hoping for a shot at a higher level but stranger things could happen. He's the significant other of your women's coach so just maybe the thought of getting closer would be attractive. I thought Andy Sachs was at Salisbury State not St. Mary's and his little issue involved summer camps to help his assistants who were paid tiny salaries to make extra money and the paper work snafu would be unlikely to happen at a D-1 school like HC which has robust staff resources in compliance and administrative support that D-3 schools typically don't have. Oh yea, you are correct about Salisbury I had St. Mary on the brain for some reason. Still, any infraction no matter how small is looked at as a mark against a candidate. While I believe what he did is minor and will most likely get another shot at being a head coach at a 4-year school, it won't be Holy Cross.
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Post by jaredcurry on Nov 22, 2022 14:10:23 GMT -5
Serious question here, how difficult is it for a coach at any college to learn all about the culture and admission requirements of a new college where he is applying for a coaching job? Back around 1999 there was a coach who took a job at school with very different culture and admission standards than his previous job. He was going to show his team there was a new sheriff in town and called a 6:00 AM practice. As luck would have it, the gym was locked and the team couldn't get inside. Waiting around while someone went to find a key, the players all sat down on the ground and pulled out books and used the down time to study. This coach liked to tell the story how he learned his new school was very different than his precious coaching jobs. He learned and adapted pretty well Those “few” that were studying all the time, were shown the door. Not surprisingly we got immediately better. The Hart center was also never locked again.
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Post by hchoops on Nov 22, 2022 14:13:54 GMT -5
So in 20-21 Hartford made the NCAAs winning their conference tourney
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Post by Tom on Nov 22, 2022 15:53:32 GMT -5
Back around 1999 there was a coach who took a job at school with very different culture and admission standards than his previous job. He was going to show his team there was a new sheriff in town and called a 6:00 AM practice. As luck would have it, the gym was locked and the team couldn't get inside. Waiting around while someone went to find a key, the players all sat down on the ground and pulled out books and used the down time to study. This coach liked to tell the story how he learned his new school was very different than his precious coaching jobs. He learned and adapted pretty well Those “few” that were studying all the time, were shown the door. Not surprisingly we got immediately better. The Hart center was also never locked again. Wow. I had not heard the unfiltered version before. Thanks for sharing
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Nov 22, 2022 15:57:41 GMT -5
Stats are how you look at them. John Gallagher 2017–18 Hartford 19–14 11–5 3rd CIT First Round 2018–19 Hartford 18–15 10–6 4th 2019–20 Hartford 18–15 9–7 3rd NCAA Division I Cancelled 2020–21 Hartford 15–9 8–6 4th NCAA Division I Round of 64 After the 21 season, UHart announced dropping out of D-1. A nice cut-off for Gallagher fans to start with 17-18, but what about his first 7 seasons? Do you really think a coach would survive this HC environment with a .393 winning percentage through 7 years? The "In Ovah His Head?" thread would be on 10K pages at that point. 2010–11 Hartford 11–20 7–9 6th 2011–12 Hartford 9–22 7–9 6th 2012–13 Hartford 17–14 10–6 4th CIT First Round 2013–14 Hartford 17–16 10–6 3rd 2014–15 Hartford 14–16 7–9 5th 2015–16 Hartford 10–23 4–12 T–7th 2016–17 Hartford 9–23 4–12 7th You're not wrong
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Post by bfoley82 on Nov 22, 2022 15:59:30 GMT -5
Why would Gallo be interested? He already has his program rolling at Merrimack in a similar level league... It's a fair question, but I would imagine Holy Cross can provide better resources than Merrimack as well as a more competitive salary. Whether or not that is enough to pull him away from his alma mater, I'm not sure. I think he checks just about every box if the HC job opens up. What resource? A practice gym?
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Post by hc17 on Nov 22, 2022 16:10:48 GMT -5
It's a fair question, but I would imagine Holy Cross can provide better resources than Merrimack as well as a more competitive salary. Whether or not that is enough to pull him away from his alma mater, I'm not sure. I think he checks just about every box if the HC job opens up. What resource? A practice gym? Do you think there is a material difference between the two schools' facilities?
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Post by bringbackcaro on Nov 22, 2022 16:20:56 GMT -5
It's a fair question, but I would imagine Holy Cross can provide better resources than Merrimack as well as a more competitive salary. Whether or not that is enough to pull him away from his alma mater, I'm not sure. I think he checks just about every box if the HC job opens up. What resource? A practice gym? They play in a high school gym: merrimackathletics.com/facilities/hammel-court/2They only have two assistants on staff
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Post by hc17 on Nov 22, 2022 16:22:37 GMT -5
Exactly. Someone's bias is kicking in again.
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Post by bikeman on Nov 22, 2022 18:09:09 GMT -5
Watching this team it just appears they are completely “uncoached”. From the recruiting process to fundamentals to shooting practice to defense to game management…. There is nothing I see that I couldn’t have done better myself, and I’m not a coach.
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Post by Ray on Nov 22, 2022 18:38:12 GMT -5
Why would Gallo be interested? He already has his program rolling at Merrimack in a similar level league... I haven't reviewed everything (and everyone) that people have proposed above, but how about Brian Blaney?I don't know if his name has been mentioned in this thread, but he's come up in prior searches. If he's interested, I would think Kit would want to talk to him for sure.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 22, 2022 18:48:51 GMT -5
I haven't reviewed everything (and everyone) that people have proposed above, but how about Brian Blaney? I don't know if his name has been mentioned in this thread, but he's come up in prior searches. If he's interested, I would think Kit would want to talk to him for sure. Has a bit of a FHCSK feel to him.
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Post by efg72 on Nov 22, 2022 19:01:45 GMT -5
Brian can coach, evaluate, and recruit
Certainly has a great love and passion for the school
Maybe that apple didn't fall far from the tree✝️✝️✝️
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 22, 2022 19:04:35 GMT -5
Brian can coach, evaluate, and recruit Certainly has a great love and passion for the school Maybe that apple didn't fall far from the tree✝️✝️✝️ That's fair and I don't doubt that, but if that's the case then why hasn't another school hired him as their head coach at this point in his career?
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Post by mm67 on Nov 22, 2022 19:07:34 GMT -5
What the hell is going on? George Blaney was a wonderful coach who is an exemplar of the HC ideal. Ralph Willard was a terrific coach & is a fine gentleman. Both HC grads are winners both on & off the court. Recently, HC has had years of failing basketball spiraling ever downward into the abyss of total futility. HC is competing against other lower level teams in the PL. And they still don't win. I, too feel for all the stakeholders, especially the fine young men on the team. Their pain must be unbearable. Obviously, the current head coach will be replaced. When? Don't know. The school will move in a new direction with a new coach. But in what direction? Up? Down? If the past few years of turnstile coaching changes is any guide, we cannot predict a new bright day.
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Post by longsuffering on Nov 22, 2022 22:18:59 GMT -5
We have 50% more assistants. We must be killing it.
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Post by timholycross on Nov 22, 2022 22:24:19 GMT -5
What the hell is going on? George Blaney was a wonderful coach who is an exemplar of the HC ideal. Ralph Willard was a terrific coach & is a fine gentleman. Both HC grads are winners both on & off the court. Recently, HC has had years of failing basketball spiraling ever downward into the abyss of total futility. HC is competing against other lower level teams in the PL. And they still don't win. I, too feel for all the stakeholders, especially the fine young men on the team. Their pain must be unbearable. Obviously, the current head coach will be replaced. When? Don't know. The school will move in a new direction with a new coach. But in what direction? Up? Down? If the past few years of turnstile coaching changes is any guide, we cannot predict a new bright day. Down's impossible. Status quo is probably 50/50. Hope I'm wrong about that.
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Post by HC92 on Nov 22, 2022 23:01:15 GMT -5
In his second full season with the Skipjacks after Covid cancelled the 2020-21 season, Sachs led the Skipjacks to one of the greatest seasons in program history, setting a school record 17 game win streak and a national ranking as high as 4th in the country in February 2022. The national ranking was the highest in program history. The Skipjacks entered the national rankings during the 2021-22 season for the first time in early December and stayed nationally ranked for three straight months. The Skipjacks finished the 2021-22 season at 23-3, the best winning percentage for a single season in program history. In his first season, Sachs immediately turned the program around and produced the first winning season in seven years. With a bare roster when he arrived, Sachs put together the fourth best season in program history going 18-9, which was also the best record in twelve seasons at the ‘Peake. Sachs improved the win total from 8 to 18, the biggest one-year turnaround in program history
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Nov 22, 2022 23:24:26 GMT -5
Contact him tomorrow
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Post by Crucis#1 on Nov 22, 2022 23:32:24 GMT -5
Why wait…
Do it tonight, there is still 30 minutes before midnight.
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