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Post by Xmassader on Mar 2, 2023 18:06:04 GMT -5
From my perspective, since the final buzzer sounded in Baltimore on Tuesday night, ADKH has been “on the clock” as they say in the NFL draft. Each of us can determine when the clock expires. For me, it’s Monday at 5 pm. What I hope for and expect by then is for ADKH to reach a decision about the direction of the program, explain the steps that he intends to take to end our 14 year wander in the basketball wilderness and publicly announce his plan. Retain HCBN without extension, retain him with extension, let him go. I have my own thoughts on which it should be but I think it’s more important for ADKH to demonstrate a sense of urgency (“Yes, Houston we have a problem”) and tell us what he plans to do to turn this program around.
Unfortunately, in the case of 3 of the 6 most recent coaching “departures”, they occurred in June or July well after the prime time for vetting and hiring a new coach. Unsurprisingly, the 3 coaches hired in this time frame (Raynor, Kearney and Nelson) racked up 11 losing seasons and 5 20 loss seasons in their 13 seasons on the job. The three hired in the March/April time frame (Willard, Brown & Carmody) collectively had 10 winning seasons out of 19, 6 20 win seasons and 5 NCAA appearances.
Quite simply, the time for ADKH to reach a decision, announce it publicly to the various stakeholders and act upon it is NOW.
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Post by spenser on Mar 2, 2023 18:15:09 GMT -5
From my perspective, since the final buzzer sounded in Baltimore on Tuesday night, ADKH has been “on the clock” as they say in the NFL draft. Each of us can determine when the clock expires. For me, it’s Monday at 5 pm. What I hope for and expect by then is for ADKH to reach a decision about the direction of the program, explain the steps that he intends to take to end our 14 year wander in the basketball wilderness and publicly announce his plan. Retain HCBN without extension, retain him with extension, let him go. I have my own thoughts on which it should be but I think it’s more important for ADKH to demonstrate a sense of urgency (“Yes, Houston we have a problem”) and tell us what he plans to do to turn this program around. Unfortunately, in the case of 3 of the 6 most recent coaching “departures”, they occurred in June or July well after the prime time for vetting and hiring a new coach. Unsurprisingly, the 3 coaches hired in this time frame (Raynor, Kearney and Nelson) racked up 11 losing seasons and 5 20 loss seasons in their 13 seasons on the job. The three hired in the March/April time frame (Willard, Brown & Carmody) collectively had 10 winning seasons out of 19, 6 20 win seasons and 5 NCAA appearances. Quite simply, the time for ADKH to reach a decision, announce it publicly to the various stakeholders and act upon it is NOW. The voice of reason. I’d prefer to see a decision made by 5 pm on Friday but I can see xm’s point. There’s a real possibility that ADKH will spend a good portion of the weekend taking to various stakeholders. People really need to calm down about this. The guy re-upped Bob Chesney. So he deserves a little slack. BTW I want BN gone and a new beginning for the program. I go way back with HCBB. To the days of Frank Oftring.
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Post by Ray on Mar 2, 2023 18:22:37 GMT -5
Hughes has had about 13 months on the job to “consult with stakeholders”. It’s in no way a surprise that he finds himself in this position.
The time to act is now… I do agree that whatever the action is, it warrants a public announcement and explanation. And I think it’s eminently reasonable to expect that announcement by close of business tomorrow. There is no reason this needs to drag into next week.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 2, 2023 18:39:20 GMT -5
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Post by timholycross on Mar 2, 2023 18:42:21 GMT -5
I wonder if HC would roll the dice and bring Nelson back without an extension figuring if no recruits sign in the fall, next year is another disaster and even if all 6 seniors opt not to use their Covid year at HC, the new coach, (or Nelson if he does well next year), could fill out the roster in the Spring via the portal. I don't think that's rolling the dice. It's waving the white flag & treating your program like it belongs in D3. Don't think that will be the result here. Remember, this is Holy Cross and there's only a relatively small number of transfers that the school will accept. Risky to throw all one's eggs in that basket.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 2, 2023 18:45:29 GMT -5
From my perspective, since the final buzzer sounded in Baltimore on Tuesday night, ADKH has been “on the clock” as they say in the NFL draft. Each of us can determine when the clock expires. For me, it’s Monday at 5 pm. What I hope for and expect by then is for ADKH to reach a decision about the direction of the program, explain the steps that he intends to take to end our 14 year wander in the basketball wilderness and publicly announce his plan. Retain HCBN without extension, retain him with extension, let him go. I have my own thoughts on which it should be but I think it’s more important for ADKH to demonstrate a sense of urgency (“Yes, Houston we have a problem”) and tell us what he plans to do to turn this program around. Unfortunately, in the case of 3 of the 6 most recent coaching “departures”, they occurred in June or July well after the prime time for vetting and hiring a new coach. Unsurprisingly, the 3 coaches hired in this time frame (Raynor, Kearney and Nelson) racked up 11 losing seasons and 5 20 loss seasons in their 13 seasons on the job. The three hired in the March/April time frame (Willard, Brown & Carmody) collectively had 10 winning seasons out of 19, 6 20 win seasons and 5 NCAA appearances. Quite simply, the time for ADKH to reach a decision, announce it publicly to the various stakeholders and act upon it is NOW. The voice of reason. I’d prefer to see a decision made by 5 pm on Friday but I can see xm’s point. There’s a real possibility that ADKH will spend a good portion of the weekend taking to various stakeholders. People really need to calm down about this. The guy re-upped Bob Chesney. So he deserves a little slack. BTW I want BN gone and a new beginning for the program. I go way back with HCBB. To the days of Frank Oftring. In comparing BN to alums who have coached, BN isn't a Frank Oftring, whose worst year was 13-10. He's a Bill Osmanski (1-9, lost his last game to BC, 76-0). Too bad there isn't a Dr. Eddie waiting to come back.
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Post by spenser on Mar 2, 2023 18:47:30 GMT -5
The voice of reason. I’d prefer to see a decision made by 5 pm on Friday but I can see xm’s point. There’s a real possibility that ADKH will spend a good portion of the weekend taking to various stakeholders. People really need to calm down about this. The guy re-upped Bob Chesney. So he deserves a little slack. BTW I want BN gone and a new beginning for the program. I go way back with HCBB. To the days of Frank Oftring. In comparing BN to alums who have coached, BN isn't a Frank Oftring, whose worst year was 13-10. He's a Bill Osmanski (1-9, lost his last game to BC, 76-0). Too bad there isn't a Dr. Eddie waiting to come back. Never said he was. My point was that I go back a very long way with HC BB. That should have been obvious.
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Post by trimster on Mar 2, 2023 18:57:40 GMT -5
I think we came on board at the same time.
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Post by dharry13 on Mar 2, 2023 19:01:38 GMT -5
We all see that Bucknell got rid of Davis right?
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Post by saderfan2020 on Mar 2, 2023 19:18:58 GMT -5
We all see that Bucknell got rid of Davis right? now were REALLY "on the clock"
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Post by WorcesterGray on Mar 3, 2023 7:21:23 GMT -5
Day three . . . ![](https://media.tenor.com/YWArfj6Qe8YAAAAC/clock-alarm-clock.gif)
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Post by jaredcurry on Mar 3, 2023 8:06:07 GMT -5
I have been informed that the “Covid Contract extension” might have something to do with this delay, I wish I had more info but I threw my cell phone through the wall mid conversation.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Mar 3, 2023 8:09:40 GMT -5
Not liking Bucknell having the jump on things.
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Post by cmo on Mar 3, 2023 8:14:36 GMT -5
They might have a 365 day jump
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Post by hc99 on Mar 3, 2023 8:24:19 GMT -5
I have been informed that the “Covid Contract extension” might have something to do with this delay, I wish I had more info but I threw my cell phone through the wall mid conversation. This is extremely frustrating. C'mon Kit. Find a way to get around this. We need to move on from Coach Nelson.
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Post by newfieguy74 on Mar 3, 2023 8:28:24 GMT -5
I have been informed that the “Covid Contract extension” might have something to do with this delay, I wish I had more info but I threw my cell phone through the wall mid conversation. Do you mean he might actually have two years left on his contract?
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Post by spenser on Mar 3, 2023 8:29:25 GMT -5
I have been informed that the “Covid Contract extension” might have something to do with this delay, I wish I had more info but I threw my cell phone through the wall mid conversation. This is extremely frustrating. C'mon Kit. Find a way to get around this. We need to move on from Coach Nelson. Sounds like they may have tacked on an additional year to the original contract because in many ways the COVID year was a lost year. As in he has two more years. A five year contract became six years. Puts us back where we were last year with not wanting to spend 700k plus to get rid of the guy.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 3, 2023 8:39:45 GMT -5
Surely any Covid Contract extension was added with performance requirements to protect Holy Cross.🙏
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 3, 2023 8:42:50 GMT -5
Coach had already booked a 3-29 season before Covid.
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Post by jaredcurry on Mar 3, 2023 8:42:52 GMT -5
I have been informed that the “Covid Contract extension” might have something to do with this delay, I wish I had more info but I threw my cell phone through the wall mid conversation. Do you mean he might actually have two years left on his contract? Yes..
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Post by WorcesterGray on Mar 3, 2023 8:43:51 GMT -5
Lining up for 2023-24 season tix.
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Post by crusader1970 on Mar 3, 2023 8:47:08 GMT -5
If what Jared says is accurate, my strong suspicion is that it was originally 4 years extended to 5 and Nelson has one year to go.
That said, the endowment as of June 2022 was almost $1 Billion.
Eat the year and move on.
I may be proven wrong but I have confidence that HC will do the smart thing and will cut the cord today.
Fingers crossed that I am right.
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Post by trimster on Mar 3, 2023 8:51:05 GMT -5
Do you mean he might actually have two years left on his contract? Yes.. Looks like the idea floated by someone a few weeks ago about the Covid year affecting BN’s contract wasn’t so preposterous after all.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 3, 2023 8:54:22 GMT -5
Need to remember Kit Hughes wasn't named AD until December, 2021.
If Nelson's contract was restructured due to corona, it was Marcus Blossom who did it.
Pray for us.
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Post by dadominate on Mar 3, 2023 8:55:03 GMT -5
I have been informed that the “Covid Contract extension” might have something to do with this delay, I wish I had more info but I threw my cell phone through the wall mid conversation. if kit/hc care at all about the state of our basketball program, they will take care of whatever shortsighted extension may have been provided... no matter what the cost. i wish nelson well, but another year will likely drive this program far deeper into the abyss.
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