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Post by crusader1970 on Mar 3, 2023 8:56:23 GMT -5
Looks like the idea floated by someone a few weeks ago about the Covid year affecting BN’s contract wasn’t so preposterous after all. And it would confirm what incredibly poor judgement the former AD, Marcus Blossom, had,
There was no need to do that. None.
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Post by jaredcurry on Mar 3, 2023 8:56:40 GMT -5
If what Jared says is accurate, my strong suspicion is that it was originally 4 years extended to 5 and Nelson has one year to go. That said, the endowment as of June 2022 was almost $1 Billion. Eat the year and move on. I may be proven wrong but I have confidence that HC will do the smart thing and will cut the cord today. Fingers crossed that I am right. On a positive note, I am frequently and consistently wrong on almost everything.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 3, 2023 8:59:47 GMT -5
Coach had already booked a 3-29 season before Covid. Yes, why would we extend his contract when he had already demonstrated indisputably that he was not an adequate head coach?
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Post by sader1998 on Mar 3, 2023 9:00:50 GMT -5
Need to remember Kit Hughes wasn't named AD until December, 2021. If Nelson's contract was restructured due to corona, it was Marcus Blossom who did it. Pray for us. The College should sue Blossom for negligence ... and use the proceeds to fund BN's buyout.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 3, 2023 9:02:14 GMT -5
Surely any Covid Contract extension was added with performance requirements to protect Holy Cross.🙏 And one of the first things Hughes did (or should have done) after being hired was analyze the terms of Nelson's contract. He's had ample time to navigate how to get out of this.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Mar 3, 2023 9:08:22 GMT -5
What a Friday morning kick in the nether region.....
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Post by trimster on Mar 3, 2023 9:43:02 GMT -5
What a Friday morning kick in the nether region..... Not surprising given what it has been like being an HC hoops fan for the better part of the last 40 years.
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Post by trimster on Mar 3, 2023 9:53:35 GMT -5
Surely any Covid Contract extension was added with performance requirements to protect Holy Cross.🙏 That would be a big assumption.
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Post by hc1998 on Mar 3, 2023 10:00:01 GMT -5
Maybe since we extended him during Covid when we should have canned him, HC is eligible for some PPP money that we can use to fund his buyout?
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Post by trimster on Mar 3, 2023 10:04:47 GMT -5
Maybe since we extended him during Covid when we should have canned him, HC is eligible for some PPP money that we can use to fund his buyout? Can you imagine the fallout in the coaching community if HC canned a coach after one year for the 2nd time in ten years.
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Post by dharry13 on Mar 3, 2023 10:15:57 GMT -5
Kit has to have someone leak something to alums to explain the delay. Yes he needs to explain the delay. The school has no issue asking alums for money over and over again. And we give it proudly over and over again. We want answers and we should be given exactly that - answers.
Just a poor look so far. Simply have a person on his staff leak some info out - “it’s coming just give us a few days, etc”
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Post by hc1998 on Mar 3, 2023 10:20:24 GMT -5
Maybe since we extended him during Covid when we should have canned him, HC is eligible for some PPP money that we can use to fund his buyout? Can you imagine the fallout in the coaching community if HC canned a coach after one year for the 2nd time in ten years. I guess that was a bit too strongly worded...we shouldn't have canned him in 2020/21, but we also shouldn't have been looking to afford him any more security On the bright side, his win total is increasing each year (3, 5, 9, 10)...at this pace we may have a 20 win season and challenge for the PL title in 2030
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 3, 2023 10:44:28 GMT -5
Maybe since we extended him during Covid when we should have canned him, HC is eligible for some PPP money that we can use to fund his buyout? Can you imagine the fallout in the coaching community if HC canned a coach after one year for the 2nd time in ten years. I wonder if the D-1 Football coaching community got their knickers in a bunch when Holy Cross had the audacity to hire a D-2 coach from little known Assumption? The coach who turns around HC MBB is not going to be someone who has his ear pinned to what the coaching community thinks and never dares step outside their conformity rules, or dares to think outside the box. It's probably not going to be a "name" the coaching community approves of in lockstep. It's going to take a proven winner we can afford who is betting on himself and doesn't give a hoot what the coaching community thinks. Someone who wins at HC will soon be the darling of the coaching community and everyone else anyway. So if some applicant is scared away by what the coaching community thinks, good. We dodged a bullet.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Mar 3, 2023 11:10:41 GMT -5
^
Wut?
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 3, 2023 12:28:53 GMT -5
Can you imagine the fallout in the coaching community if HC canned a coach after one year for the 2nd time in ten years. I guess that was a bit too strongly worded...we shouldn't have canned him in 2020/21, but we also shouldn't have been looking to afford him any more security On the bright side, his win total is increasing each year ( 3, 5, 7, 8)...at this pace we may have a 20 win season and challenge for the PL title in 2030 FIFY. You are right in that there's an upward trend in wins year over year, just had the wrong number of wins in years three and four.
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Post by hcpride on Mar 3, 2023 12:34:13 GMT -5
Can you imagine the fallout in the coaching community if HC canned a coach after one year for the 2nd time in ten years. I guess that was a bit too strongly worded...we shouldn't have canned him in 2020/21, but we also shouldn't have been looking to afford him any more security On the bright side, his win total is increasing each year (3, 5, 9, 10)...at this pace we may have a 20 win season and challenge for the PL title in 2030 Yes, and on the even brighter side, if we can patch together a time travelling machine we can see the 2030 team next year.
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Post by hc1998 on Mar 3, 2023 12:43:29 GMT -5
I guess that was a bit too strongly worded...we shouldn't have canned him in 2020/21, but we also shouldn't have been looking to afford him any more security On the bright side, his win total is increasing each year (3, 5, 9, 10)...at this pace we may have a 20 win season and challenge for the PL title in 2030 Yes, and on the even brighter side, if we can patch together a time travelling machine we can see the 2030 team next year. Why does it feel like time travel will be here before HC hoops relevancy is?
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Post by bfoley82 on Mar 3, 2023 12:44:39 GMT -5
Can you imagine the fallout in the coaching community if HC canned a coach after one year for the 2nd time in ten years. I wonder if the D-1 Football coaching community got their knickers in a bunch when Holy Cross had the audacity to hire a D-2 coach from little known Assumption? The coach who turns around HC MBB is not going to be someone who has his ear pinned to what the coaching community thinks and never dares step outside their conformity rules, or dares to think outside the box. It's probably not going to be a "name" the coaching community approves of in lockstep. It's going to take a proven winner we can afford who is betting on himself and doesn't give a hoot what the coaching community thinks. Someone who wins at HC will soon be the darling of the coaching community and everyone else anyway. So if some applicant is scared away by what the coaching community thinks, good. We dodged a bullet. This board was up in arms that Chesney was even getting mentioned. crossports.freeforums.net/post/44667crossports.freeforums.net/post/44668crossports.freeforums.net/post/47768crossports.freeforums.net/post/47812crossports.freeforums.net/post/48485That is just from the first two pages
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 3, 2023 12:48:26 GMT -5
Two posts / posters does not equal "this board."
In fact, if you spent the time going through all of the posts, I imagine the majority of us were very enthusiastic about Chesney.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Mar 3, 2023 12:51:16 GMT -5
Yes, and on the even brighter side, if we can patch together a time traveling machine we can see the 2030 team next year. They will be growing tomatoes on Mars before this program becomes relevant again.
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Post by Crosser on Mar 3, 2023 13:06:52 GMT -5
Yes, and on the even brighter side, if we can patch together a time traveling machine we can see the 2030 team next year. They will be growing tomatoes on Mars before this program becomes relevant again. Or tomaccos anyway.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Mar 3, 2023 13:09:58 GMT -5
We get it, HC87 wanted Hull over Chesney because they went to college together. Pretty sure most of us would be pulling for a personal friend to get the job if we were in the same shoes.
Why this has to get repeatedly brought up on any coaching position discussion is absolutely absurd.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 3, 2023 13:46:34 GMT -5
Two posts / posters does not equal "this board." In fact, if you spent the time going through all of the posts, I imagine the majority of us were very enthusiastic about Chesney. I heard immediately from someone enrolled in W.I.S.E. (Worcester Institute for Senior Education) which holds classes at Assumption. He said everyone at Assumption loved Chesney and despite disappointment in losing him thought the HC job was a perfect fit. In retrospect, perhaps we don't give the HC Administration enough credit for locking up Chesney at HC for at least a while longer.
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Post by jaredcurry on Mar 3, 2023 16:53:11 GMT -5
I was asked today from an ex-teammate “How come Milan wasn't given this kind of rope”. I had no answer for him…
This is going to get very bad.
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Post by hceconhist on Mar 3, 2023 16:57:13 GMT -5
I was asked today from an ex-teammate “How come Milan wasn't given this kind of rope”. I had no answer for him… This is going to get very bad. I can tell you for a fact: his former players are INCENSED over the double standard.
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