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Post by efg72 on Jan 4, 2020 10:58:58 GMT -5
Anybody have a sense what the differences are in pay for football/basketball coaches compared to those in Academic roles at HC.
Head Coach - Department Chair OC/DC/Asst HC —Professor Asst Coach - Assistant Professor/instructor
and is there admissions data on how frequently a student selects HC because of a specific academic lead and do we have the same for athletics because of coach xyz?
i know a bit off track, and to some it might seem crazy, but when the subject of salaries for coaches suggests these are lower paying jobs, does it require a comprehensive review on salaries across the board?
just raising a question and until I would see data have no position on this topic
I would ask the same question if we thought faculty was underpaid compared to coaches-power 5 for example
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 4, 2020 11:11:14 GMT -5
I can tell you without fear of successful contradiction that the head basketball coach makes multiples more than any department chair and the football coach closer but still more.
When you get down to assistants vs. professors, they are more in alignment, with professors probably making more than assistants, in part, because of long tenure both time on the job and actual "tenure".
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Post by efg72 on Jan 4, 2020 11:15:37 GMT -5
Thanks
I know GW and Gtown overpay?? for certain roles, to get the faculty they want, and had no idea how we compare
Appreciate the info
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Post by nhteamer on Jan 4, 2020 11:29:14 GMT -5
I wish Coach Murphy the best
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Post by purplehaze on Jan 4, 2020 11:37:55 GMT -5
Coach Murphy, Thanks for your contribution at HC, and I’m sorry you had to absorb so much criticism from the ‘experts’ on crossports. Good luck in Kingston
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Post by gks on Jan 4, 2020 12:05:32 GMT -5
Murphy made an average at best QB into all league. Play calling reflects the talent on the team. He is probably getting a significant raise (HC assistant pay is brutal). Of Chesney's two OC choices one was plucked by the NFL almost immediately and one now takes a step up to URI. He'll make a good hire for number 3.
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Post by sarasota on Jan 4, 2020 12:28:12 GMT -5
Coach Murphy, Thanks for your contribution at HC, and I’m sorry you had to absorb so much criticism from the ‘experts’ on crossports. Good luck in Kingston You didn't have to be an "expert" to see much of the inexplicable play calling this season. Go back and review Crossboarders' comments at the time. Let's call a spade a spade.
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Post by moose1970 on Jan 4, 2020 12:42:05 GMT -5
Coach Murphy, Thanks for your contribution at HC, and I’m sorry you had to absorb so much criticism from the ‘experts’ on crossports. Good luck in Kingston You didn't have to be an "expert" to see much of the inexplicable play calling this season. Go back and review Crossboarders' comments at the time. Let's call a spade a spade. "Crossboarders' comments" on college football is just so much noise. to suggest that coach murphy, chesney, etc would pay any attention to this is pure fantasy.
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Post by sarasota on Jan 4, 2020 12:48:35 GMT -5
You didn't have to be an "expert" to see much of the inexplicable play calling this season. Go back and review Crossboarders' comments at the time. Let's call a spade a spade. "Crossboarders' comments" on college football is just so much noise. to suggest that coach murphy, chesney, etc would pay any attention to this is pure fantasy. Who is suggesting that they pay attention to Crossports? I'm talking about the objective quality of the play calling, something anyone can see by watching the game.
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Post by dharry13 on Jan 4, 2020 12:56:12 GMT -5
While you’re not wrong Sarasota, why is there no mention of the kids execution. Why shy away from blaming the kids too.
Any sensible people who watch with their eyes - your words - can also see on many games the execution failed.
Like you said. Call spades, spades
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Post by moose1970 on Jan 4, 2020 13:03:08 GMT -5
"Crossboarders' comments" on college football is just so much noise. to suggest that coach murphy, chesney, etc would pay any attention to this is pure fantasy. Who is suggesting that they pay attention to Crossports? I'm talking about the objective quality of the play calling, something anyone can see by watching the game. Who is suggesting that they pay attention to Crossports?
purplehaze apology to coach murphy. I'm talking about the objective quality of the play calling, something anyone can see by watching the game.true, everyone has the right to voice an opinion but if you were watching surgery that failed would you be qualified to criticize the surgeon? there is much that goes into play calling that is not seen by the arm chair quarterback.
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Post by sarasota on Jan 4, 2020 13:49:46 GMT -5
moose- I defer to your greater expertise than me.....seriously.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Jan 4, 2020 13:56:46 GMT -5
Joe Brady could be calling plays for HC, but without a real good 1AA QB results wouldn't be much better.
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Post by hc87 on Jan 4, 2020 14:05:41 GMT -5
Congrats to Murphy but I'm finding it a bit depressing that a lateral move by coaching position to URI is now a considered a "move up."
We have to find a way to make coaching football at HC more attractive monetarily.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jan 4, 2020 14:45:11 GMT -5
It's foolish to think Murphy was solely to blame for the offensive woes. As has been mentioned before (at least by me), Murphy is just as responsible for the offense as Chesney, and being handcuffed by a decidedly average QB limited probably what we were able to do on this side of the ball -- OC, HC and QB all shared in the problems we had on offense. That said, I thought the play calling was pretty suspect for most of the season and that watching two years of Murphy is enough for me to believe that we could do better with someone else.
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Post by moose1970 on Jan 4, 2020 16:21:38 GMT -5
Congrats to Murphy but I'm finding it a bit depressing that a lateral move by coaching position to URI is now a considered a "move up." We have to find a way to make coaching football at HC more attractive monetarily. We have to find a way to make coaching football at HC more attractive monetarily.
Again, starting at the top with coach chesney. the administration should hold a press conference, tear up his K now and pay him whatever it was they were willing to pay a D-1 coach before realizing they could not afford one and settled on chesney. the delay before signing chesney as head football coach was not because they did not have his address at assumption college!!!
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Post by hc80 on Jan 4, 2020 17:13:41 GMT -5
Folks, Whether it is Murphy or Chesney - the biggest issue all year (both years of Murphy’s tenure really) was first down. I will wager a gourmet meal at Coney Island that if you go through every play by play, we probably averaged no gain on first down. This was true with Wade at QB and this year as well. Give the offense a chance for crying out loud. 2nd and forever is not on the players when it is every friggin series. It is not poor execution. It is not below average QB play. It is a lack of offensive scheme, creativity, and discipline. It is coaching. Every person in the stadium knew what we were running on first down. And this does not even mention how piss poor our schemes were in the red zone. Good coaching takes average players and makes them better. This never happened under this OC.
Good Riddance to Murphy - now Chesney needs to find someone who will help him be the best he can be.
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Post by sarasota on Jan 4, 2020 18:01:18 GMT -5
If true, HC paying short $ to Chesney as well as doing the same for all the minor sports teams coaches is truly cheesy. I'm sorry, given HC's financial strength, I can't respect that behavior.
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Post by sarasota on Jan 4, 2020 18:03:06 GMT -5
Folks, Whether it is Murphy or Chesney - the biggest issue all year (both years) was first down. I will wager a gourmet meal at Coney Island that if you go through every play by play, we probably averaged no gain on first down. This was true with Wade at QB and this yet at well. Give the offense a chance for crying out loud. 2nd and forever is not on the players when it is every friggin series. It is not poor execution. It is not below average QB play. It is a lack Of offensive scheme, creativity, and discipline. It is coaching. Every person in the stadium knew what we were running on first down. Good Riddance to Murphy - now Chesney needs to find someone who will help him be the best he can be. mega kudos. Tell it like it was.
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Post by efg72 on Jan 4, 2020 18:16:05 GMT -5
Enough said I think
Accept what is-we need to hire an OC Let go of what was- it is in the past Have faith in what will be-a very bright future
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Post by dharry13 on Jan 4, 2020 20:57:39 GMT -5
HC80 and Sarasota. I’ll take that bet.
Happily. This next OC will do no better statistically. I will take that bet in a heart beat.
Scheme - are you serious? Yikes. This board has gone old, stodgy and flat out dumb. Rally stupid commentary. Offensively dumb.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jan 4, 2020 21:39:51 GMT -5
HC80 and Sarasota. I’ll take that bet. Happily. This next OC will do no better statistically. I will take that bet in a heart beat. Scheme - are you serious? Yikes. This board has gone old, stodgy and flat out dumb. Rally stupid commentary. Offensively dumb. We get it. You’re friendly with Murphy.
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Post by dharry13 on Jan 4, 2020 22:00:42 GMT -5
We get it. This Board wants OC gone. You got your wish.
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Post by moose1970 on Jan 4, 2020 22:09:27 GMT -5
The comments on this board mean absolutely nothing to HC nor should they. This is merely talking' "stuff " and nothing more. Take a deep breath. Relax. Peace to all. LoveHC true, but still can be interesting to hear someone else's opinion even if you disagree. GO 'SADERS!!!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2020 22:13:06 GMT -5
It's almost certainly a step up financially. URI is the worst CAA program throughout history and always underfunded . 2019 URI OC made 64k (all public record)
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