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Post by hchoops on Feb 18, 2020 10:39:54 GMT -5
Reilly’s rate is probably a product of his relatively brief stints on the court. He is reluctant to shoot probably for fear of being taken out on a miss.
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Post by efg72 on Feb 18, 2020 10:41:25 GMT -5
Evaluating this season could take 10 seconds or hours, depending on the conversation and metrics.
Quick version if you believe your record is what you are: - Terribly disappointing year, although the kids played hard with some individual improvement by each player
More detailed version -- Terrible results but all of the kids played hard, and the coaches tried to help the team through a difficult season -- A summer, fall and winter filled with challenges -- We were more formally introduced to the Transfer Portal, and learned more than we wanted about the process -- Coaches, players and fans all wanted to see a better result and TEAM improvement - Roster was a mess and short bench had many players playing out of position
- Culture change was ineffective, a disaster or at best difficult to measure - Commitment to new style without the skill to execute could be questioned-- don't know many coaches who enjoyed success that first year when choosing this approach
- One simple thing to be done this year and would have carryover to the future was teaching the team how to win with the roster and atmospherics you have-- that is the culture you want-- no excuses- lessons learned from winning when the roster and world around you is a mess are life lessons and builds trust and confidence on a roster- not sure if that would have been 8, 10, 12 wins but unlikely to have been 3. Would have been an asset for introducing the next group of recruits into the program as you transitioned to a new style of play
-- A learning year for the coaches,, players, fans and the administration.
- As a program I am not sure how many more learning seasons we can take
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Post by sader1970 on Feb 18, 2020 10:46:28 GMT -5
I don't go by the number of times they shoot in a game but how many times they have wide open looks but don't shoot. CLS, to my non-discerning eye, is tops on the team for having open shots he does not take. Wade #2. I agree that Clayton is shooting a little more recently, especially in the Bucknell game, as he knows he isn't going to get benched out of necessity. I always suspected part of his hesitancy was coach-ordered. Wade's shots, even when open, often don't get close to the mark and unlike some past Crusaders, he is usually not throwing up desperation shots as the clock shot expires.
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Post by trimster on Feb 18, 2020 10:52:59 GMT -5
Evaluating this season could take 10 seconds or hours, depending on the conversation and metrics. Quick version if you believe your record is what you are: - Terribly disappointing year, although the kids played hard with some individual improvement by each player More detailed version -- Terrible results but all of the kids played hard, and the coaches tried to help the team through a difficult season -- A summer, fall and winter filled with challenges -- We were more formally introduced to the Transfer Portal, and learned more than we wanted about the process -- Coaches, players and fans all wanted to see a better result and TEAM improvement - Roster was a mess and short bench had many players playing out of position - Culture change was ineffective, a disaster or at best difficult to measure - Commitment to new style without the skill to execute could be questioned-- don't know many coaches who enjoyed success that first year when choosing this approach - One simple thing to be done this year and would have carryover to the future was teaching the team how to win with the roster and atmospherics you have-- that is the culture you want-- no excuses- lessons learned from winning when the roster and world around you is a mess are life lessons and builds trust and confidence on a roster- not sure if that would have been 8, 10, 12 wins but unlikely to have been 3. Would have been an asset for introducing the next group of recruits into the program as you transitioned to a new style of play -- A learning year for the coaches,, players, fans and the administration. - As a program I am not sure how many more learning seasons we can take - - Well said.
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Post by purplehaze on Feb 18, 2020 12:29:22 GMT -5
Found it interesting that the announcers said that bucknell left lewisburg on Saturday after their game with AU and broke up the trip into 3 hrs on sat and 3 on Sunday - this had nothing to do with the outcome ! ( they could have bussed in game day and won this one)
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Post by dadominate on Feb 18, 2020 12:53:05 GMT -5
Evaluating this season could take 10 seconds or hours, depending on the conversation and metrics. Quick version if you believe your record is what you are: - Terribly disappointing year, although the kids played hard with some individual improvement by each player More detailed version -- Terrible results but all of the kids played hard, and the coaches tried to help the team through a difficult season -- A summer, fall and winter filled with challenges -- We were more formally introduced to the Transfer Portal, and learned more than we wanted about the process -- Coaches, players and fans all wanted to see a better result and TEAM improvement - Roster was a mess and short bench had many players playing out of position - Culture change was ineffective, a disaster or at best difficult to measure - Commitment to new style without the skill to execute could be questioned-- don't know many coaches who enjoyed success that first year when choosing this approach - One simple thing to be done this year and would have carryover to the future was teaching the team how to win with the roster and atmospherics you have-- that is the culture you want-- no excuses- lessons learned from winning when the roster and world around you is a mess are life lessons and builds trust and confidence on a roster- not sure if that would have been 8, 10, 12 wins but unlikely to have been 3. Would have been an asset for introducing the next group of recruits into the program as you transitioned to a new style of play -- A learning year for the coaches,, players, fans and the administration. - As a program I am not sure how many more learning seasons we can take post of the year regarding this season (record, roster, coaching, meaningful culture change, etc.) and where we hope to go from here as a program.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 18, 2020 13:55:26 GMT -5
Not many but here are the highlights
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Post by alum on Feb 18, 2020 14:19:35 GMT -5
With regard to Joey Reilly: 1. As a 45 year fan of East Catholic and a 40 year fan of HC, I was and remain excited about Reilly's appearance on the HC roster. I am hopeful that he succeeds but I am not as animated about this as hcalum85. 2. With the limited observation we have had, it does not seem to me that he can play point guard, but then again, I viewed him as more of a shooting guard anyway. In terms an East Catholic fan could understand, he isn't Joey Whelton. For that matter, he isn't Doug Melody either. 3. Reilly has seemed hesitant to pull the trigger when he has had a chance. As I was paying particular attention to him, I noticed multiple times early in the season when he passed on a chance to shoot. I don't know if that is on the coach's instructions (I hope not) or due to a lack of confidence, but he hasn't made himself indispensable.4. I don't know if RW's shooting struggles are caused by fatigue or something else, but even his shot selection seems to be a problem lately. He is taking some tough defensive assignments and doing reasonably well there, but on offense he more often than not is standing in the corner and taking a shot every six minutes. That doesn't seem to be a winning strategy. I would envision Reilly's role as spelling RW, but since RW played 40 minutes again, that is not how he is being used. 5. It would appear that Reilly is going to get a chance down the stretch to show something. I am hopeful that he takes that opportunity and shines, that he gets bigger and stronger over the summer, that the new recruits bring a skill set which frees RW up to return to a shooter's role, that JR proves that he should share that spot with RW, that they both have great careers, that they graduate as friends, and that they sit together at games in 2045 and talk about the fact that they were there when Florida coach BN got his start. I just don't understand why people get so angry here. I am in it for the fun. Joey has taken 3.1 Field Goal Attempts per 40 minutes. I'd guess that may make him the most reluctant shooter HC has had in recent memory. A team's average is typically 10 or 11 shots per man per 40 minutes. In my book 6.0 or 7.0 would be a good benchmark for really reluctant to shoot. I don't know that we've seen a player lower than 5.0 before. For comparison, Lincoln Yeutter is 7.0 for the year and CLS is at 7.2. I'll bet CLS has been shooting more of late--playing a different role and perhaps more confident. Joey's 3.1 is troubling to me. I did some math. Ryan Wade has averaged 7.4 FGA per 40 minutes for the season, but only 5.8 per 40 for the last seven games. He needs to get free for some shots. FWIW, it felt like we pushed the ball more early in the season which may have given him opportunities in transition that are no longer available with a slower tempo. Crossports needs an unpaid intern to go and rewatch every minute of every game and chart all of Ryan's shots for us.
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Post by Tom on Feb 18, 2020 14:23:22 GMT -5
It's harder to push the ball without a point guard
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Feb 18, 2020 14:30:40 GMT -5
I also have to believe Nelson wants to play a little slower when only play six or seven guys a game.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Feb 18, 2020 14:48:57 GMT -5
The American game is being marketed as Bring Your Game Shorts Day. First 100 fans in HC game shorts demonstrating an ability to drive, draw and dish will be escorted to the team bench for immediate game duty.
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Post by timholycross on Feb 18, 2020 15:50:10 GMT -5
3-star point guards should not walk away from the program, better work should have been done there Two points:
1. Of the three star-awarding sites on VC, ESPN''s is the least credible, and 2. PLEASE STOP.
Much more credible than one of our posters who used to refer to a point guard we had as "McDonald's All American John Hightower". One of my least favorite players in my 50 years of watching HC basketball (because his game was taking it to the basket and getting to the line; something I approve of 100%...but if and only if you are a good or better foul shooter...and he was HORRIBLE).
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 18, 2020 15:54:47 GMT -5
Dr. Fauci on CNBC now taking questions and giving great answers. He is treated with reverence by the financial anchors. He is a great advertisement for the Holy Cross pre-med program.
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Post by timholycross on Feb 18, 2020 15:56:02 GMT -5
Wrong thread or can Dr. Fauci play point guard? ? One of the few government people you'll see on all three of these: Fox, MSNBC and CNN
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Post by possum on Feb 18, 2020 16:25:44 GMT -5
Wade actually is taking 2 more shots a game in PL play which makes sense as he's basically playing 40 minutes a game. Unfortunately his shooting percentage is also going down. It was nice to see him put the ball on the floor and try to get to the hoop, he also made a few nice interior passes for buckets.
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Post by dadominate on Feb 18, 2020 17:29:27 GMT -5
Two points:
1. Of the three star-awarding sites on VC, ESPN''s is the least credible, and 2. PLEASE STOP.
Much more credible than one of our posters who used to refer to a point guard we had as "McDonald's All American John Hightower". One of my least favorite players in my 50 years of watching HC basketball (because his game was taking it to the basket and getting to the line; something I approve of 100%...but if and only if you are a good or better foul shooter...and he was HORRIBLE). don't recall hightower being referred to as a mcdonald's all american by any poster here? however, he was an honorable mention street and smith's all american and i and others have posted that. hightower chose us over a number of d1 programs and was probably one of bill raynor's most coveted recruits at the time. while he was a decent player overall (good penetrator and one of the best defenders in the pl), hightower struggled MIGHTILY psychologically with free throws... especially his senior year. less than 40%! it was tough to see him struggle like that (one of the best/most positive guys to ever wear an hc uniform) and it hurt an already struggling team. www.sports-reference.com/cbb/players/john-hightower-1.html
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Post by timholycross on Feb 18, 2020 20:39:08 GMT -5
Street and Smith, it is, then, but I'm sure the first time it was mentioned, someone posted the "street and smith" without the "honorable". Glad at some point someone stepped in and added that.
And like I said, his intentions were 100% to my liking, but the free throw shooting killed the team.
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Post by purplehaze on Feb 18, 2020 22:04:12 GMT -5
Regardless of the reason(s) for copeland’s absence from the lineup, can someone tell me why he is not on the bench supporting the team ? Yuetter is there for every game I have watched
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Post by Tom on Feb 18, 2020 22:14:04 GMT -5
Regardless of the reason(s) for copeland’s absence from the lineup, can someone tell me why he is not on the bench supporting the team ? Yuetter is there for every game I have watched I don't know, but I'm guessing he's not in Worcester. Injured guys are basically always on the bench at least for a home game, I expect Yeutter to be on the bench. Early in the season, when Copeland was injured, he was on the bench. To your point, Lowder and Hargis were at the game Monday night. I really think if Kyle were in town, he would have seen him at some point
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Post by efg72 on Feb 18, 2020 22:17:36 GMT -5
Possibilities are many but in the end just unhealthy speculation. Signing one or two more players might shed some light on the situation, but with all of the mystery of who is or is not on scholarship that might not guarantee any clarity.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 18, 2020 23:02:23 GMT -5
Sitting in the stands rooting for your school is much more benign than filing a lawsuit. In that sense, none of the roster turnover in MBB is as troubling as the coaching staff issues in WBB.
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Post by Crosser on Feb 19, 2020 0:51:38 GMT -5
Wade actually is taking 2 more shots a game in PL play which makes sense as he's basically playing 40 minutes a game. Unfortunately his shooting percentage is also going down. It was nice to see him put the ball on the floor and try to get to the hoop, he also made a few nice interior passes for buckets. I was wondering whether anyone else noticed how RW CAN put the ball on the floor a little, penetrate a bit, and make some nice little dish offs. He seems at least adept at this as anyone else currently available for duty. He also seems to be one of our better mid to long range passers. I’m wondering whether trying him at point guard might jump start his game and also allow some of our other non point guards to flourish at the SG.
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