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Post by trimster on Jun 8, 2020 16:46:34 GMT -5
I was very impressed by what Faw was able to do last season but to expect him to play 30+ minutes, given his propensity to foul, isn’t realistic. A man can dream, right? If we wanted to be very optimistic using a relatively small sample size, he did play 30+ mins in 4 of the final 6 games last year, including getting up to 34 in two of those games. I didn’t realize he was on the floor for that many minutes in games at the end of the season. Perhaps I am being too pessimistic.
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Post by hchoops on Jun 8, 2020 16:58:07 GMT -5
PL games - 23.8 mpg. 4.8 RPG Overall- 19.6. mpg 4.3 RPG
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Post by trimster on Jun 8, 2020 17:21:37 GMT -5
PL games - 23.8 mpg. 4.8 RPG Overall- 19.6. mpg 4.3 RPG I think our frosh bigs are going to get major minutes by necessity, from the first jump ball. Talk about baptism by fire and the same probably applies at point guard. At the risk of stating the obvious, the Crusaders are going to be a very, very young and inexperienced next winter.
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Post by rgs318 on Jun 8, 2020 17:35:19 GMT -5
We've been there (with a young team) several times in recent years. Hopefully the talent will be able to make up to some degree for lack of D1 college experience.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 8, 2020 21:05:48 GMT -5
I think we'll need to be patient early on with the freshman bigs as they may commit some fouls as they adjust to the faster pace and bigger players in the college game
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Post by HC92 on Jun 8, 2020 21:31:18 GMT -5
I plan to be patient the entire season. Just need to feel like we’re making progress, that Nelson has a plan and that we’ll be consistently in the top half of the league soon. When the Faw/Niego/Green/Butler/Grandison/Copeland class signed on, I said Carmody’s success or failure at HC would be determined by that class. Similarly, Nelson’s fate rests very much on the 7 new guys arriving in the Fall. Carmody did not get to see his big class through due to his wife’s health. Nelson will likely get to see his group through. Let’s hope they’re successful together.
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Post by purplehaze on Jun 11, 2020 14:17:06 GMT -5
Colgate's Jordan Burns withdraws from the draft and will return to Hamilton - Coach Langel just let out a huge sigh of relief
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Post by hchoops on Jun 14, 2020 14:51:37 GMT -5
Harvard’s 2 best players will suit up for Seton Hall and Ohio State as grad transfers this season, if there is one
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Post by bison137 on Jun 14, 2020 15:32:15 GMT -5
Colgate's Jordan Burns withdraws from the draft and will return to Hamilton - Coach Langel just let out a huge sigh of relief I doubt he ever had any thought of leaving. Like many, it was a move to allow him to attend the pre-draft camps and get evaluated. Had he stayed in, he would not have been drafted.
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Post by bison137 on Jun 14, 2020 15:35:36 GMT -5
As we hit mid-June and the number of new entrants to the portal is winding down, it's interesting to note how this year's totals compare to last year (per VC):
2020: 960 2019: 992
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Post by rickii on Jun 15, 2020 7:08:49 GMT -5
Harvard’s 2 best players will suit up for Seton Hall and Ohio State as grad transfers this season, if there is one I think 67 was more referring to underclassmen transferring as opposed to grad-transfers.
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Post by timholycross on Jun 15, 2020 7:46:32 GMT -5
Those two Harvard players had significant injuries that made skipping a season necessary (and they both missed more time than that, I believe). Plus, isn't the IL like the PL; if you've graduated, "thank you for your service, move on"?
On the other hand, Ms. Benzan on the ladies team skipped her senior year (on purpose, with no injury, illness or hardship) to play at Maryland as a grad student; a situation like that is more concerning going forward.
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Post by bison137 on Jun 15, 2020 8:45:59 GMT -5
Those two Harvard players had significant injuries that made skipping a season necessary (and they both missed more time than that, I believe). Plus, isn't the IL like the PL; if you've graduated, "thank you for your service, move on"? The IL is different from the PL. In the PL, if you missed a year due to a season-ending injury, you can return for a 5th year - either in a graduate program or by adding another major etc. It is up to the individual school exactly how it is handled. For eample, at Bucknell, adding a 5th year due to a double major isn't allowed, and the great majority of players won't qualify for the two real grad programs. Boston U, Lehigh, and American have a significant advantage in this area since those three have major grad programs. Note that schools are not allowed to bring in grad transfers.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Oct 25, 2020 21:36:56 GMT -5
With the Niego news, it is hopefully time to finally close the book on the Bill Carmody transfers
If my calculations are correct, 12 players who Bill Carmody signed to scholarships left the HC basketball program, and only 5 ended up at another D1 program.
What a total disaster.
Nelson Era: UNC Wilmington (Pridgen) Eastern Michigan (Lowder) St Francis (Hargris) Grand Valley State (Verbeek) Lewis University (Niego) Miami Dade CC (Sandy) HC Intramurals? (Copeland)
Union (Lovioso) *walk-on Johns Hopkins (Yeutter) *walk-on
— Pre-Nelson Pace (Charles) Pace (Cohen) ? (Stevens) *edit: Illinois (Grandison) *edit: Fairfield (Green)
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Oct 25, 2020 22:09:05 GMT -5
And 3-29 last yr under a new coach wasn't a disaster? But then again NP didn't hire the current coach, so it has to has to be an excellent hire apparently.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Oct 25, 2020 22:44:07 GMT -5
"Hargris" & "Lovioso" --nice try.
Great job of mocking Copeland, who left the team for medical reasons, with the oh-so-clever "HC Intramurals" line.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Oct 25, 2020 22:49:15 GMT -5
Green - Fairfield University and Grandison - University of Illinois are missing from the list.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Oct 25, 2020 23:38:25 GMT -5
Green - Fairfield University and Grandison University of Illinois are missing from the list. Edited above. Thanks
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Post by HC92 on Oct 26, 2020 5:49:00 GMT -5
Jack Stevens wound up at Cornell but did not play varisty basketball there.
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Post by WorcesterGray on Oct 26, 2020 9:33:23 GMT -5
Give Copeland credit for valuing his Holy Cross experience and education, despite a disappointing basketball career. None of the others did. Speaks volumes about the recruitment process that brought them here. Let's hope Nelson does better on this score
Good luck and good-bye to all the departed, once and for all.
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Post by newfieguy74 on Oct 26, 2020 9:43:53 GMT -5
Speaking of transfers, I sometimes check out the web sites for teams that HC players transferred to. I recently took a quick look at the Illinois men's hoop site. The men's basketball program has: an endowed head coach, four assistant coaches, it's own athletic trainer, a video coach, an assistant AD, a director of creative media, two graduate managers, an an administrative assistant. It's amazing the resources that are put toward major D1 programs. I find it especially interesting when the program is at a public university, although I guess it's possible (likely?) that these programs have a positive cash flow with all the revenue they generate.
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Post by hchoops on Oct 26, 2020 9:47:22 GMT -5
If so, not for much longer.
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Post by Tom on Oct 26, 2020 9:52:33 GMT -5
Jack Stevens wound up at Cornell but did not play varisty basketball there. I think the post was intended to say that less than half the departed players went on to play D-I hoops elsewhere. The fact that Stevens didn't play basketball makes his landing spot kind of irrelevant. We don't know if he tried to find another place to play basketball or not. He may or may not have been able to find a D-I home where he could play
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Post by WorcesterGray on Oct 26, 2020 9:59:31 GMT -5
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 26, 2020 10:30:57 GMT -5
His was a very different situation. I hope his degree and future accomplishments in the "real world" move up from the low point of his departure from HC.
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