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Post by purplehaze on May 6, 2020 12:36:05 GMT -5
Heard on espn this morning that privately the P5 AD's are considering a 'best case' is a delayed start in October and an abbreviated schedule. I would think the Patriot AD's are adjusting our schedule the same way (altho with only 6 league games, I hope there will be October ooc games)
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Post by HC92 on May 6, 2020 12:44:27 GMT -5
Will be interesting. My guess is that games will be league only or something close to that with meaningful limitations re: fans. As has been pointed out elsewhere, Fitton is much better positioned than other stadia to have social distancing given the sheer size of it.
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Post by hc2020 on May 6, 2020 19:28:26 GMT -5
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Post by gks on May 6, 2020 20:41:34 GMT -5
In order for this to have any effect you'd literally have to test every student every day. It's impossible.
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Post by hc2020 on May 7, 2020 14:27:16 GMT -5
This may be the first proverbial foot to drop as far as Power 5 FBS scheduling. Interested to see how Oregon addresses this announcement as far as modifications to its existing schedule and stadium operations, especially with a monster game hosting Ohio State on their schedule:
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Post by hchoops on May 7, 2020 16:42:23 GMT -5
This may be the first proverbial foot to drop as far as Power 5 FBS scheduling. Interested to see how Oregon addresses this announcement as far as modifications to its existing schedule and stadium operations, especially with a monster game hosting Ohio State on their schedule: OSU will suggest moving the game to Columbus, if Gov Dewine approves
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Post by gks on May 7, 2020 18:17:23 GMT -5
News literally changes by the hour. How states can just cancel stuff that far out is foolish to me. Make contingency plans yes...but why the rush to cancel so fast?
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Post by lou on May 7, 2020 19:12:21 GMT -5
News literally changes by the hour. How states can just cancel stuff that far out is foolish to me. Make contingency plans yes...but why the rush to cancel so fast? Why prolong the inevitable?
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Post by gks on May 7, 2020 20:22:15 GMT -5
News literally changes by the hour. How states can just cancel stuff that far out is foolish to me. Make contingency plans yes...but why the rush to cancel so fast? Why prolong the inevitable? How do you know it's inevitable? No one has to go to the games if you feel unsafe.
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Post by efg72 on May 7, 2020 20:37:41 GMT -5
It might all be reversed if McConnell can get COVID legal relief for states, businesses, and schools. At this point the language granting relief and protection has not been accepted by a group of Rs and Schumer led Ds-slippery slope for trial lawyers
While very unclear about the Senate’s ability to pass these provisions next month(and only possible if there are no future events/upticks)but if successful, I am willing to bet schools will open on time
PP and Dado might have a clearer view
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Post by hcpride on May 7, 2020 20:39:03 GMT -5
Surely it is within the realm of possibility that colleges have more and better information than they had in the spring and might decide that reopening (including school sports) with prudent measures in place might be a good move.
I wonder if all would have been better served if Massachusetts had focused on slamming the doors early on long-term care facilities and issuing stay-home/self quarantine directives for the at-risk rather than closing college campuses, golf courses, etc. Hopefully the leaders have heard of AAR's and conduct a few.
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Post by efg72 on May 7, 2020 20:40:44 GMT -5
Legal action is already taking place in significant volume-schools will be reluctant to open without relief-imho
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Post by gks on May 7, 2020 21:03:24 GMT -5
Legal action is already taking place in significant volume-schools will be reluctant to open without relief-imho Schools did this to themselves. When they shutdown many balked at refunding room and board costs. Then they didn't discount tuition after sending students home. I don't blame parents for being upset and pursuing legal action. Political appetite to give money to school's with giant endowments is going to be LOW. Look at the outcry when Harvard took the initial PPP. I'd be shocked if colleges aren't back on campuses in the fall. They'd be leaving just too much money on the table.
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Post by efg72 on May 7, 2020 21:07:29 GMT -5
I have a neighbor whose daughter goes to GW for $76k per and is suing for a tuition refund complaining about online courses. The school lost millions refunding Room/Board, but as I understand they refused to refund tuition
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Post by Crucis#1 on May 7, 2020 21:20:40 GMT -5
Taking Autzen Stadium at full capacity of 54,000, as an example, does anyone know of the probability of vector transmission of SARS-Cov-2 based on number of carriers by the demographic?
Has anyone come across a statistical data model?
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Post by gks on May 7, 2020 21:39:35 GMT -5
I have a neighbor whose daughter goes to GW for $76k per and is suing for a tuition refund complaining about online courses. The school lost millions refunding Room/Board, but as I understand they refused to refund tuition Good luck to your neighbor. Colleges could have been pro-active and made some PR points but they didn't. Now they have to face the angry parents.
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Post by gks on May 7, 2020 21:41:57 GMT -5
Taking Autzen Stadium at full capacity of 54,000, as an example, does anyone know of the probability of vector transmission of SARS-Cov-2 based on number of carriers by the demographic? Has anyone come across a statistical data model? How could there be a model. Imagine the variables. Weather...is it windy? raining? cold? are people wearing coats? is it warm where people will be in short sleeves with more exposed skin? is the sun shining? It's impossible to model for everything. It amazes me that people can't come to grips with this.
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Post by Crucis#1 on May 7, 2020 22:17:25 GMT -5
Of course there is a model for vector transmission. I would be appalled if the CDC or WHO does not have one developed regarding variable scenarios. Maybe PP, EFG or Dado have viewed.
Through my 5 decade career in the insurance industry, I can assure you that actuarial analysis modeling factors is used in the development of new products and risk for every demographic possibility. The risk managers for each institution should be advising the trustees for their decisions. A residential institution such as HC, will have a substantially different risk model than a school with a large number of commuters, or a school like Liberty or ASU that has extraordinary number of on line students.
What I do not understand is how one can be so cavalier about one’s own health and those in his family. Would you pick up and drive to the middle of Kansas or Texas if there were Tornado warnings?
Ut tu in pace!
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Post by longsuffering on May 7, 2020 23:40:45 GMT -5
I have a neighbor whose daughter goes to GW for $76k per and is suing for a tuition refund complaining about online courses. The school lost millions refunding Room/Board, but as I understand they refused to refund tuition The University of Southern New Hampshire, a non-profit hybrid model with a campus community and a large national on line education presence, has decided to reduce tuition by two thirds from $31K to $10K for it's on campus students. Furthermore, next year's 1000 incoming freshman will receive a guaranteed scholarship for the new $10,000 tuition so it will be free for all of them. On campus amenities will be leaner and courses might include an online component. USNH is in the Northeast Ten Conference with Assumption. It would be hard for HC to compete with that approach if it catches on.
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Post by gks on May 8, 2020 5:12:40 GMT -5
Of course there is a model for vector transmission. I would be appalled if the CDC or WHO does not have one developed regarding variable scenarios. Maybe PP, EFG or Dado have viewed. Through my 5 decade career in the insurance industry, I can assure you that actuarial analysis modeling factors is used in the development of new products and risk for every demographic possibility. The risk managers for each institution should be advising the trustees for their decisions. A residential institution such as HC, will have a substantially different risk model than a school with a large number of commuters, or a school like Liberty or ASU that has extraordinary number of on line students. What I do not understand is how one can be so cavalier about one’s own health and those in his family. Would you pick up and drive to the middle of Kansas or Texas if there were Tornado warnings? Ut tu in pace! I am not cavalier about my families health. To insinuate that is ridiculous. As appalled as you are towards those ready to get going I'm just as appalled at the lockdown crew. What I am is not afraid to get my life and the life of my neighbors going. Fear has overtaken us in this. Every model I see has been way off so I'm done with them. I didn't hide for SARS, MERS, etc so I'm not hiding now. People can stay home, that's their right. You take precautions, to different degrees depending on your personal situation, and you live. It's pretty simple. Now let's play some football.
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Post by gks on May 8, 2020 5:13:40 GMT -5
I have a neighbor whose daughter goes to GW for $76k per and is suing for a tuition refund complaining about online courses. The school lost millions refunding Room/Board, but as I understand they refused to refund tuition The University of Southern New Hampshire, a non-profit hybrid model with a campus community and a large national on line education presence, has decided to reduce tuition by two thirds from $31K to $10K for it's on campus students. Furthermore, next year's 1000 incoming freshman will receive a guaranteed scholarship for the new $10,000 tuition so it will be free for all of them. On campus amenities will be leaner and courses might include an online component. USNH is in the Northeast Ten Conference with Assumption. It would be hard for HC to compete with that approach if it catches on. Why would it be hard for HC to compete with this? They'd have no choice if the majority of schools go this path.
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Post by hcpride on May 8, 2020 5:28:37 GMT -5
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Post by hc2020 on May 8, 2020 5:45:27 GMT -5
Our friends to the North weighing in on the status of the CFL season which is scheduled to begin next month and run through November:
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Post by longsuffering on May 8, 2020 9:12:52 GMT -5
The University of Southern New Hampshire, a non-profit hybrid model with a campus community and a large national on line education presence, has decided to reduce tuition by two thirds from $31K to $10K for it's on campus students. Furthermore, next year's 1000 incoming freshman will receive a guaranteed scholarship for the new $10,000 tuition so it will be free for all of them. On campus amenities will be leaner and courses might include an online component. USNH is in the Northeast Ten Conference with Assumption. It would be hard for HC to compete with that approach if it catches on. Why would it be hard for HC to compete with this? They'd have no choice if the majority of schools go this path. Because HC doesn't have the existing structure and revenue stream from a national distance learning platform.
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Post by rgs318 on May 8, 2020 9:19:28 GMT -5
That is not difficult to establish. My experience with distance learning is through Mercy College (NY). The education of the instructors is perhaps the key ingredient for a successful distance learning experience. Personal interaction with every student is of the utmost importance. Every student needs to feel connected butgthat dos not take long to establish - about 2-3 weeks in a typical course.
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