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Post by timholycross on May 8, 2020 9:51:56 GMT -5
My complaint with my daughter's school would be if the campus is closed and they charge her out-of-state rates for online courses. We'd pursue trying to take a course or two from a Mass. college; I think all out -of-staters would do that.
They're better off charging in-state rates in that case, think they'd do better revenue-wise.
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Post by purplehaze on May 8, 2020 9:57:39 GMT -5
The virus took out the XFL after a pretty decent first month (tv ratings), and now the CFL - heard that it is likely the league will fold completely - NFL last league standing for those aspiring to play pro football.
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Post by hchoops on May 8, 2020 10:02:58 GMT -5
Suppose the governors of some of those states do not allow those schools to reopen ?
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Post by efg72 on May 8, 2020 10:13:54 GMT -5
Some might not be reelected if they take that action-- they love their football in that conference
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Post by hchoops on May 8, 2020 10:18:25 GMT -5
Some might not be reelected if they take that action-- they love their football in that conference Those brave enough to value potential lives saved over football might be brave enough to risk an end of their careers.
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Post by efg72 on May 8, 2020 10:23:01 GMT -5
Agree completely with you-- just saying what SEC football means to those states and how it could impact decisions. KY and others might have a different view, that would be considerably more accurate than mine
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Post by hcpride on May 8, 2020 10:23:23 GMT -5
I guess some folks might want to err on the safe side and end football altogether (thus forestalling serious injuries including TBI and possible deaths). The virus (to the extent it is in SEC territory in August) may hold a much smaller threat of serious injury and death to SEC football players.
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Post by Tom on May 8, 2020 11:19:10 GMT -5
I was talking to someone who got a letter from his kid's school saying the only reason they went remote is because all this went down while the school was on spring break. Otherwise they would have still locked the school down, but done it with the kids locked in while everyone was still presumably healthy
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 8, 2020 11:48:19 GMT -5
Agree completely with you-- just saying what SEC football means to those states and how it could impact decisions. KY and others might have a different view, that would be considerably more accurate than mine I think I've been saying on these pages how important football is in SEC and Big 10 land. I will be astounded if the SEC does not play football this Fall.
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Post by hchoops on May 8, 2020 12:32:35 GMT -5
Will fans be allowed in 60-100,00 seat stadia ?
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Post by purplehaze on May 8, 2020 14:12:44 GMT -5
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Post by hc87 on May 8, 2020 14:24:47 GMT -5
It's getting harder and harder to see any sports taking place during the rest of 2020 imo.... really hoping I'm wrong.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on May 8, 2020 14:39:10 GMT -5
I think your hopes will be fulfilled
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Post by HC92 on May 8, 2020 14:42:20 GMT -5
The next few weeks should be telling. As states start to re-open, we’ll either see a big jump in new cases that originate post-opening or we won’t. If we do, chances of schools re-opening or sports being played starting in late August go way down. We may have variation by region of the country based on population density.
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Post by hchoops on May 8, 2020 14:47:02 GMT -5
I believe that we have already seen an increase in cases in the states that have started reopening.
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Post by gks on May 8, 2020 15:05:09 GMT -5
I believe that we have already seen an increase in cases in the states that have started reopening. Can you link the articles for us please? Would like to read them.
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Post by hchoops on May 8, 2020 15:22:08 GMT -5
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Post by Tom on May 8, 2020 15:22:42 GMT -5
I believe that we have already seen an increase in cases in the states that have started reopening. From a practical standpoint, I would think there would be some sort of delay between opening and the number of new cases. The non symptomatic guy last week infected two people because that's all he had contact with. This week things open up and he infects ten. It might take a week or so for those 10 to show symptoms enough to get tested. Then another couple of days to get results. ABC news tells me every night that Texas is opening up while cases are still on the rise. I don't know how much the rise can be attributed to opening up a few days ago. Common sense says as states open there will be more human interaction and therefore more transmission. I think it would be better data to show the slope of the curve for two weeks after opening and compare it to two weeks before opening and compare the two. But that's just me dropping into geek mode
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Post by gks on May 8, 2020 15:29:31 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on May 8, 2020 16:22:48 GMT -5
I started to dig into GA earlier to see how it has played out since the reopening but didn’t get very far. It’s complicated by the fact that I guess a few things opened on 4/24 while a lot more opened on 4/30. I think they were also ramping up testing significantly as part of their re-open plan so you’d expect cases to go up for that reason. I haven’t yet found the data on number of tests by day. Georgia also ties each positive back to the day of first symptoms (if known) or the day the first sample was taken. So, a lot of the 1000+ positives on May 1 are sprinkled across a bunch of earlier days in their reporting. Nothing’s easy but I am interested in what the numbers actually show so I’ll try to figure it out. I try not to rely on the “news” from either side for such purposes as everyone has an agenda.
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Post by HC92 on May 8, 2020 18:53:10 GMT -5
To try to figure out Georgia, I used a site created by The Atlantic called covidtracking.com which was the one place I could find numbers of tests by day for each state. Based on the Georgia data there which they claim to get from the state, here's what I came up with.
For 4/15-4/30, there were an average of 5453 tests and 746 positives per day for a positive percentage of 14%. For 5/1-5/8, there were 9815 tests per day with 744 positives per day for a positive percentage of 8%. On that basis, so far so good but with the full opening only being in place for a little more than a week, next week will be much more telling than this one.
As mentioned previously, the state website depicts the data arranged by date of first symptoms or date of first sample if symptom date is not know. So, you probably have to wait at least a week before you can feel like the number of positives for a given date is relatively fully baked as you wait for people to get tested and then for the test results to come in.
Going back to April 15 (shown first), here are the positives attributable to each day so far: 758 (April 15), 812, 865, 471, 568, 925, 870, 845, 674, 788, 389, 294, 896, 825, 645, 556, 567 (May 1), 265, 164, 437, 276, 167, 46, 27. So, these numbers don't really tell us much after May 1 as those will all develop upward. The website says there could still be development up to 14 days so even the week prior to May 1 could see cases go up a little. Will be interesting to check back in a few days and see how these numbers move.
Not sure if that helps or not but the numbers around all this are very complicated and often inconsistent depending on the state and the source. Lots of folks out there trying to score political points one way or the other by making these numbers seem really big or really small without providing any meaningful analysis or context.
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Post by longsuffering on May 8, 2020 19:01:16 GMT -5
It's getting harder and harder to see any sports taking place during the rest of 2020 imo.... really hoping I'm wrong. Roger Goodell says you're wrong. And he's no clownface.🙂
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Post by hchoops on May 8, 2020 19:08:30 GMT -5
Goodell may have some governors who set his planned start date back.
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Post by longsuffering on May 8, 2020 19:14:58 GMT -5
Goodell may have some governors who set his planned start date back. The gist you get from the NFL is they will play in any state they have to and play with or without fans in attendance to keep their massive TV revenue flowing. The Boise Patriots will still have a hard time without Brady.
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Post by DFW HOYA on May 9, 2020 13:12:47 GMT -5
Will fans be allowed in 60-100,00 seat stadia ? Yes they will. The donor class of the SEC has a way of making things happen.
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