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Post by cmo on Mar 25, 2020 19:45:53 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Mar 25, 2020 21:48:35 GMT -5
Say it ain’t so. My high schooler who is currently missing his baseball season is already worried about his soccer season. I think Fall sports will happen across the board. Wouldn’t bet a lot of money on it but that’s my what my ample gut tells me.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Mar 25, 2020 22:52:35 GMT -5
I will renew my season tickets to support the program, but unless there is a vaccine that is highly distributed by September (highly unlikely), I will have seen my last live event in a Stadium, Arena, Gym or Rink until the virus is abated. There are preexisting conditions in my family.
While nothing is finer than to be at Fitton on a fall Saturday in September or October, the risk may be more than what I am willing to take. The exception to nothing finer in September or October, is clinching a Championship in November.
So while the virus is still prevalent, maybe the first give away promotion for the season, to be included with the season ticket packages should be a full bio hazmat suit with the HC shield on the back. Before entering the stadium, instead of checking bags, there will be a decontamination station. I have not figured out how to protect the players yet, except for all wearing full face shields on their helmets and gloves for everyone.
The next several months will stress us all. Be careful and stay well.
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Post by longsuffering on Mar 25, 2020 23:51:09 GMT -5
Dr. Fauci, on CNN with Chris Cuomo tonight, said we should prepare for a "second wave" because in Southern Hemisphere countries, the virus is active which indicates it may not die out in the warmer weather like the seasonal flu. Sounds crazy but if the virus does infect as large a percentage of the population as some speculate, and if most young people have no or mild symptoms, and if they can test for anti-bodies, and if anti-bodies do prevent you from catching it again, then college football squads made up only of players with anti-bodies could safely play each other in an empty stadium.
In other words, the fall season could very well be cancelled because that's a lot of ifs.
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Post by hcpride on Mar 26, 2020 7:24:43 GMT -5
I'm thinking that the differing mortality rates by age and pre-existing conditions of this particular virus may eventually influence the broad rules/regs/advisories currently in force and we might see a much more nuanced approach in the future.
And that could very well lead to a resident fall semester in colleges and a college football season (albeit perhaps with spectator rules/advisories/restrictions).
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Post by timholycross on Mar 26, 2020 7:34:02 GMT -5
So could fall school, period (that is, stays online), if there's going to be a need for that much caution (not saying there won't).
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Post by newfieguy74 on Mar 26, 2020 7:45:42 GMT -5
We're all guessing, of course, absorbing Dr. Fauci's words and wisdom. It looks as if the virus will be with us for a while. It was just announced that 3.28 people applied for unemployment this week. The highest weekly total in 2008 was something like 600K. I think the important point is when the outbreak levels off to a point where the health system can handle it. When that happens the economy re-opens and when people get sick they get treated. Also, at some point enough people will have had it that there will be a herd immunity that makes it harder for the virus to find new hosts. I think millions of Americans have/have had the virus. I know many people who think they had it but weren't tested. One of my sons, who lives in Boston, had a lot of the symptoms but his doctor wouldn't/couldn't test him and he simply stayed home until he got better. My guess: society (and HC) are re-opened by Sept.
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 26, 2020 8:49:09 GMT -5
In Bergen County NJ, ALL churches are now to be locked at ALL times. Sad. In the spirit that "God is everywhere" as was learned in Catholic elementary school, I know this is not really as bad as it sounds, but it does underscore just how serious this situation is. Keep all of you and your loved ones in my prayers and ask that you do the same for us.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 26, 2020 9:06:09 GMT -5
Think of the logistics of restarting a league of some type in the near future. A lot of testing, quarantining, retesting of everyone involved, not just the players... A central site where the games would be. Forget about fans, tv only. And, if someone gets ill after all that, might have to shut it down.
I'm just hopeful that some places during next week will start seeing statistical evidence of progress....it will have been over 2 weeks at that point since people really started listening.
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Post by hc2020 on Mar 26, 2020 15:36:04 GMT -5
It’s scary, but I think at some point people will need to choose between possible infection vs. financial ruin. With most people experiencing only mild symptoms, I suspect many will balance those competing interests and will opt to take their chances.
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Post by efg72 on Mar 26, 2020 16:26:59 GMT -5
Been working on this and Dr Zhu Chen former Chinese Health Minister and his wife Saijuan are part of the research team for the abstract. He and others are working to return some of the supplies that made it from the US to China when they were needed The feasibility of convalescent plasma therapy in severe COVID-19 patients: a pilot study Kai Duan, Bende Liu, Cesheng Li, Huajun Zhang, Ting Yu, Jieming Qu, Min Zhou, Li Chen, Shengli Meng, Yong Hu, Cheng Peng, Mingchao Yuan, Jinyan Huang, Zejun Wang, Jianhong Yu, Xiaoxiao Gao, Dan Wang, Xiaoqi Yu, Li Li, Jiayou Zhang, Xiao Wu, Bei Li, Yanping Yu, Wei Chen, Yan Peng, Yeqin Hu, Lianzhen Lin, Xuefei Liu, Shihe Huang, Zhijun Zhou, Lianghao Zhang, Yue Wang, Zhi Zhang, Kun Deng, Zhiwu Xia, Qin Gong, Wei Zhang, Xiaobei Zheng, Ying Liu, Huichuan Yang, Dongbo Zhou, Ding Yu, Jifeng Hou, Zhengli Shi, Saijuan Chen, Zhu Chen, Xin-xin Zhang, Xiaoming Yang doi: doi.org/10.1101/2020.03.16.20036145This article is a preprint and has not been certified by peer review [what does this mean?]. It reports new medical research that has yet to be evaluated and so should not be used to guide clinical practice. · Abstract · Info/History · Metrics · · Preview PDF Abstract Currently, there are no approved specific antiviral agents for 2019 novel coronavirus disease (COVID-19). In this study, ten severe patients confirmed by real-time viral RNA test were enrolled prospectively. One dose of 200 mL convalescent plasma (CP) derived from recently recovered donors with the neutralizing antibody titers above 1:640 was transfused to the patients as an addition to maximal supportive care and antiviral agents. The primary endpoint was the safety of CP transfusion. The second endpoints were the improvement of clinical symptoms and laboratory parameters within 3 days after CP transfusion. The median time from onset of illness to CP transfusion was 16.5 days. After CP transfusion, the level of neutralizing antibody increased rapidly up to 1:640 in five cases, while that of the other four cases maintained at a high level (1:640). The clinical symptoms were significantly improved along with increase of oxyhemoglobin saturation within 3 days. Several parameters tended to improve as compared to pre-transfusion, including increased lymphocyte counts (0.65*109/L vs. 0.76*109/L) and decreased C-reactive protein (55.98 mg/L vs. 18.13 mg/L). Radiological examinations showed varying degrees of absorption of lung lesions within 7 days. The viral load was undetectable after transfusion in seven patients who had previous viremia. No severe adverse effects were observed. This study showed CP therapy was well tolerated and could potentially improve the clinical outcomes through neutralizing viremia in severe COVID-19 cases. The optimal dose and time point, as well as the clinical benefit of CP therapy, needs further investigation in larger well-controlled trials.
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Post by Chu Chu on Mar 26, 2020 16:42:19 GMT -5
Wow.
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Post by efg72 on Mar 26, 2020 16:50:13 GMT -5
Chu Chu We are seeing signs this might be true in NOLA study-
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Post by hcpride on Mar 26, 2020 18:06:42 GMT -5
Interesting observations from NY's Governor today that essentially quarantining younger folks with older folks (AKA an extensive lockdown/shutdown as we have right now in NYC) might not have been the wisest strategy. And he is considering a 'smarter strategy' of letting younger workers and those who have recovered go back to work. No timeline mentioned.
I can see an alignment of that sort of thinking and a reopening of colleges. If the younger workers are returned to work the (even younger and even less at risk) could be returned to college/school. And that might include sports.
While shuttering colleges a couple of weeks ago had a certain well-intentioned and public-health supported inertia, my non-medical mind found it worthy of questioning considering who was at risk of dying from this particular virus. (Notwithstanding both the 'close quarters' and the 'carrier' rationale).
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Post by hchoops on Mar 26, 2020 18:07:30 GMT -5
It’s scary, but I think at some point people will need to choose between possible infection vs. financial ruin. With most people experiencing only mild symptoms, I suspect many will balance those competing interests and will opt to take their chances. Sounds somewhat selfish.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Mar 26, 2020 18:13:52 GMT -5
What people don’t seem to understand is that financial ruin and a skyrocketing unemployment will lead to death in other ways.
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Post by efg72 on Mar 26, 2020 18:24:49 GMT -5
What people don’t seem to understand is that financial ruin and a skyrocketing unemployment will lead to death in other ways. If this is the country we know and love I am not worried-we are a resilient people i am more concerned about the first responders and the health and well being of all. we went into this with a strong economy, and over time we will recover i hate to inform people but this might very well be our new normal the linkage between health and the economy is real
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Post by timholycross on Mar 26, 2020 18:31:01 GMT -5
How much worse would it be if the travel restrictions to the US from China weren't instituted?
And how much better would it be if the US had cut off all international travel?
Not asking to second guess as much as to figure out how the US and other countries will react if the same type of thing occurs again.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Mar 27, 2020 7:16:17 GMT -5
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Post by deep Purple on Mar 27, 2020 8:09:58 GMT -5
Jeez, you know times are tough when the patron saint of a plague is under quarantine.
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Post by rgs318 on Mar 27, 2020 8:43:53 GMT -5
We learned this. morning that all churches in the Archdiocese of Newark will remain closed until after Easter. As the priest announced it at the morning video mass, he became quite. emotional...almost to the point of tears.
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Mar 27, 2020 8:52:23 GMT -5
Heartbreaking Rob.
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Post by hc2020 on Mar 27, 2020 14:07:40 GMT -5
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Post by purplehaze on Mar 27, 2020 14:44:02 GMT -5
Social distancing will not be a problem in PL stadiums but you can’t say that about most FCS - I agree that there is a scenario where we would not have football in the fall - now that would be depressing !
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Post by thecrossisback on Mar 27, 2020 15:22:11 GMT -5
I hope they have the season, can't imagine not having it. It's five months away.
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