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Post by crusader1970 on Oct 15, 2017 14:41:03 GMT -5
Maybe there are better available, but Terry Malone would fit immediately. No one has a better resume, he's an HC guy, terrific person, with the contacts to build an outstanding staff. Can't go wrong with him! Hire him now and get him out on the recruiting trail asap. I absolutely agree with your timing. I don't know Terry so I really can't say if he is the right guy. However, if I am Nate Pine, I move QUICKLY to name my new coach ASAP. My only hesitation would be if the PERFECT guy cannot commit until after his season is over.
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Post by HC92 on Oct 15, 2017 15:17:04 GMT -5
Greenwich where...RI or CT? CT
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Post by hchoops on Oct 15, 2017 15:20:18 GMT -5
If Coach Rock runs the table, could he get the permanent post ?
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Post by rgs318 on Oct 15, 2017 15:40:42 GMT -5
I would hate to think that is impossible. But at this point, who knows?
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Oct 15, 2017 16:25:58 GMT -5
If Coach Rock runs the table, could he get the permanent post ? By run the table, do you mean regular season or are you assuming an FCS national championship?
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Post by hchoops on Oct 15, 2017 18:25:01 GMT -5
Take your pick
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Post by inhocsigno on Oct 15, 2017 18:32:08 GMT -5
The only way Rock gets the job is if he wins the league and makes a good showing in the playoffs. Given how his offense has played and some of the calls, i find him getting the job improbable and IMHO not desirable.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Oct 15, 2017 18:53:08 GMT -5
The only way Rock gets the job is if he wins the league and makes a good showing in the playoffs. Given how his offense has played and some of the calls, i find him getting the job improbable and IMHO not desirable. I tend to agree with you. I thought Rock's play calling was solid his first two years here. This year the offense has struggled much more than most could have predicted. With a fifth-year all-league QB who has started games back to 2013, a veteran O Line and backfield, we should be putting more points on the board. Seem to be a lot more drops and WR/QB mix ups than I have seen in a long time. In order to win the league, HC has to run the table which is unlikely considering that morale probably craters this week with Colgate coming to town. Lafayette also MUST LOSE TWICE for us to have any chance. If by some miracle Rock does the improbable and wins the league, many will be shouting for him to be retained as head coach....until Thanksgiving weekend when we get absolutely destroyed by Villanova in the first round of the playoffs. Going to take a huge turnaround in terms of effort and focus for this staff and team to beat Colgate on Saturday. While I want Rock to do well the rest of the season obviously, I would hope there will be some stronger candidates out there come the end of the season.
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Post by aluminati on Oct 15, 2017 20:44:53 GMT -5
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Post by purplepassion80 on Oct 15, 2017 21:14:11 GMT -5
correction on winning the PL. If HC wins out, and Lehigh beats Lafayette which is probable, all three teams will have one PL loss, so what are the tie breaker rules? By the way, I predict big win this week, 33-13.
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Post by cfrivals on Oct 15, 2017 21:38:05 GMT -5
This hire is very important. It's nice to mention some ex HC players, but this program has not been relevant since 1990! You invest almost 100 mill on mostly football facility to be competitive in the PL? That would be a huge waste. FCS football is a non-factor in the Northeast. If you are going to continue investing in the program, you need a FBS caliber coach either with HC experience or a high profile assistant. You must sell facilities and a 5 year plan to advance the program to a higher conference or take the plunge like Umass and Uconn, or else don't waste any more money and drop the program.
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Post by inhocsigno on Oct 15, 2017 21:41:49 GMT -5
I would like to see very young very high energy coach in mold of PJ Fleck, etc. 35 yo or so, and pumped for the job.
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Post by HC92 on Oct 15, 2017 22:17:16 GMT -5
If Coach Rock runs the table, could he get the permanent post ? No. Clean slate needed.
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Post by hc87 on Oct 15, 2017 22:24:00 GMT -5
This hire is very important. It's nice to mention some ex HC players, but this program has not been relevant since 1990! You invest almost 100 mill on mostly football facility to be competitive in the PL? That would be a huge waste. FCS football is a non-factor in the Northeast. If you are going to continue investing in the program, you need a FBS caliber coach either with HC experience or a high profile assistant. You must sell facilities and a 5 year plan to advance the program to a higher conference or take the plunge like Umass and Uconn, or else don't waste any more money and drop the program. This is the inherent quandary the school faces actually. We have invested so much in the football program.....ultimately, is it really going to be worth it? We aren't leaving the PL for football anytime soon (if ever). Will a 90MM facility, renewed scholarships and a beefed-up football schedule really pay off? We'll find out in the next 5-10 years I suppose. I'd imagine this will be a highly coveted job, than again I'm wearing purple-lensed glasses....but how many FCS schools though have the facilities, the quality of kids to coach, the history of the program, institutional support (hopefully) that Holy Cross can offer? I'd offer not many at the D1 level.
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Post by HC92 on Oct 15, 2017 22:24:55 GMT -5
An Ivy League coordinator who played at Penn . . . Interesting.
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Post by HC92 on Oct 15, 2017 22:25:40 GMT -5
To be fair, Columbia is 5-0 after beating Penn yesterday so these are not your daddy's Columbia Lions.
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Post by hchoops on Oct 15, 2017 22:27:04 GMT -5
To be fair, Columbia is 5-0 after beating Penn yesterday so these are not your daddy's Columbia Lions. Or even your older brother’s
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Post by timholycross on Oct 15, 2017 22:27:46 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Oct 15, 2017 22:45:25 GMT -5
What is the HC connection?
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Post by hc87 on Oct 15, 2017 22:56:29 GMT -5
Joel Lamb is Tom Lamb's '70 son
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Post by hc87 on Oct 15, 2017 23:41:49 GMT -5
Joel Lamb is now considered "old"...uggghhh....I am Methusalah
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Post by cfrivals on Oct 16, 2017 5:32:03 GMT -5
This hire is very important. It's nice to mention some ex HC players, but this program has not been relevant since 1990! You invest almost 100 mill on mostly football facility to be competitive in the PL? That would be a huge waste. FCS football is a non-factor in the Northeast. If you are going to continue investing in the program, you need a FBS caliber coach either with HC experience or a high profile assistant. You must sell facilities and a 5 year plan to advance the program to a higher conference or take the plunge like Umass and Uconn, or else don't waste any more money and drop the program. This is the inherent quandary the school faces actually. We have invested so much in the football program.....ultimately, is it really going to be worth it? We aren't leaving the PL for football anytime soon (if ever). Will a 90MM facility, renewed scholarships and a beefed-up football schedule really pay off? We'll find out in the next 5-10 years I suppose. I'd imagine this will be a highly coveted job, than again I'm wearing purple-lensed glasses....but how many FCS schools though have the facilities, the quality of kids to coach, the history of the program, institutional support (hopefully) that Holy Cross can offer? I'd offer not many at the D1 level. IMHO, I would rather have seen the school put the 100 mill to expanding the hockey rink and truly expand and upgrade basketball if the intentions were to not upgrade football. A weak FCS program in a weak league with an indoor football practice facility is a complete waste of $$. Hockey and BB are you only sports that can actually compete at the highest level and desperately needed the upgrades
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Post by ncaam on Oct 16, 2017 5:55:12 GMT -5
How much $$$ for the money games?
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Post by hcpride on Oct 16, 2017 6:34:42 GMT -5
This is the inherent quandary the school faces actually. We have invested so much in the football program.....ultimately, is it really going to be worth it? We aren't leaving the PL for football anytime soon (if ever). Will a 90MM facility, renewed scholarships and a beefed-up football schedule really pay off? We'll find out in the next 5-10 years I suppose. I'd imagine this will be a highly coveted job, than again I'm wearing purple-lensed glasses....but how many FCS schools though have the facilities, the quality of kids to coach, the history of the program, institutional support (hopefully) that Holy Cross can offer? I'd offer not many at the D1 level. IMHO, I would rather have seen the school put the 100 mill to expanding the hockey rink and truly expand and upgrade basketball if the intentions were to not upgrade football. A weak FCS program in a weak league with an indoor football practice facility is a complete waste of $$. Hockey and BB are you only sports that can actually compete at the highest level and desperately needed the upgrades hc87 "History of the Program"? Not sure that is a selling point. (PL Football, 1-AA games 30 years ago and a couple of victories over BC 40+ years ago don't really resonate).
cfrivals Folks who don't know how weak PL Football is (and it is no secret to non PL football fans, voters in the various polls, recruits and others) might not get your quote. The Luth and other investments seem peculiar choices.
Anyone who looks at Columbia now knows what it takes to turn a program around even with sub par facilities and a very awkward location: Great coach and two years of great recruiting. While I heard we recruited very well the last two years, I saw little evidence of it - that too strikes me as peculiar.
(Note: I know we are not identical to Columbia)
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Post by timholycross on Oct 16, 2017 6:53:30 GMT -5
IMHO, I would rather have seen the school put the 100 mill to expanding the hockey rink and truly expand and upgrade basketball if the intentions were to not upgrade football. A weak FCS program in a weak league with an indoor football practice facility is a complete waste of $$. Hockey and BB are you only sports that can actually compete at the highest level and desperately needed the upgrades hc87 "History of the Program"? Not sure that is a selling point. (PL Football, 1-AA games 30 years ago and a couple of victories over BC 40+ years ago don't really resonate).
cfrivals Folks who don't know how weak PL Football is (and it is no secret to non PL football fans, voters in the various polls, recruits and others) might not get your quote. The Luth and other investments seem peculiar choices.
Anyone who looks at Columbia now knows what it takes to turn a program around even with sub par facilities and a very awkward location: Great coach and two years of great recruiting. While I heard we recruited very well the last two years, I saw little evidence of it - that too strikes me as peculiar.
(Note: I know we are not identical to Columbia)
Has Columbia also boosted up its financial aid across-the-board...which to me is one big big difference between HC and Harvard/Yale 30 years ago and now. Or have they lowered admission standards for football, which is apparently what they did briefly at the turn of the century (in the Marcellus Wiley era, no offense to Mr. Wiley whose academic credentials I have no idea about). Or both. I'd rather hear you say it's because of the coaches they've hired!
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