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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 26, 2021 23:58:53 GMT -5
I look forward to seeing how far we climb on Sagarin's site, Before this weekend's games HC was #194 with a 42.08 "Predictor". Monmouth was #137 with a 52.70 Those interested might also check Bowling Green which was #155 at 50.49 Huge move upward for the Holy Cross Crusaders as Sagarin's ratings which now include this past weekend's games have HC jumping 36 places to #158 with an updated Predictor of 48.76, essentially a touchdown better than we were through 3 weeks. Monmouth drops from #132 to #167 and now has a 47.7 Predictor. Harvard is #135 at 54.97. For Bowling Green fans---moved up 25 places to #130 at 54.62. Note: the teams are ranked by the overall "RATING" but the Predictor is alleged to be better for predicting games outcomes. Merrimack is at #196, a couple of spots behind Fordham
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Post by thecrossisback on Sept 27, 2021 9:22:55 GMT -5
If Brown at Harvard can draw 20k for a non competitive game. Did the night game add thousands of fans that would not normally go? Yes.
But its time for HC to have a larger crowd at Fitton. No more excuses. The team deserves a nice loud home field advantage to help beat Harvard.
Beating Harvard and Yale in the same year would be a statement.
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Post by mm67 on Sept 27, 2021 9:38:02 GMT -5
Games are won/lost on the field. Obviously, Harvard is loaded. HC has looked great. Should be interesting.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 27, 2021 14:26:49 GMT -5
Can we draw a decent crowd for this game to see our excellent team? Here's the announced attendance for the last two Harvard games at Fitton Field:
2016= 9,115 with weather 54 degrees and sunny
2019= 10,381 with weather 54 degrees and sunny again
Forecast for saturday is a high of 63 and sunny
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Post by fillfittonfield on Sept 27, 2021 15:52:07 GMT -5
Can we draw a decent crowd for this game to see our excellent team? Here's the announced attendance for the last two Harvard games at Fitton Field: 2016= 9,115 with weather 54 degrees and sunny 2019= 10,381 with weather 54 degrees and sunny again Forecast for saturday is a high of 63 and sunny Really would love to see a big crowd at the game this Saturday. It would be great for the players…they have earned the right to play in front of a loud and energized fan base. Hoping that the fact that this is homecoming will add some more “butts in the seats.” I’ll admit I was shocked at the crowd that Harvard got last week for their home opener. 20k!!! Wouldn’t it be great to get 20k at Fitton on Saturday? I would welcome a big showing from Harvard at the game. Add to the atmosphere. Maybe they’ll bring their band and cheerleaders (don’t know if they still do that anymore, but it would be fun!).
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Post by efg72 on Sept 27, 2021 16:13:16 GMT -5
If I we were smart we would give away tickets to students and/or businesses in the area this year to develop a relationship with the community and next year push for more business support and keep the students coming for a version of free.
The product is getting better and we should put 15-20k in the stands even if they are free. They will buy concessions and the school and athletic department will benefit..
The kids we want to recruit, especially high school players in Ohio, Michigan, PA and Illinois are used to those crowds.
Midwestern I think those games you played in Cincinnati play before 10-12k - I know 50 years we did in the Akron Rubber Bowl for a number of games.
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Post by hc87 on Sept 27, 2021 16:50:48 GMT -5
Brown at Harvard was on Friday night....I'm not saying Homecoming should be a night game, but we definitely should have one a year (and not at Polar Park).
The Colgate Polar Park game will sell-out but I don't think it can hold more than 12K or so even with temp seating.
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 27, 2021 19:12:44 GMT -5
Brown at Harvard was on Friday night....I'm not saying Homecoming should be a night game, but we definitely should have one a year (and not at Polar Park). The Colgate Polar Park game will sell-out but I don't think it can hold more than 12K or so even with temp seating. Would the revenue from a few more fannies on benches make up for the lights rental and the extra strain on infrastructure such as parking, vax status checking, night game extra security, etc.? Polar provides a turn key operation and because the ticket prices are higher, HC may be getting more net revenue per ticket sold from Polar than at Fitton after game day expenses, almost assuredly after game day expenses that would include renting lights. We won't get concession revenue but can hawk HC swag at Polar.
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Post by thecrossisback on Sept 27, 2021 21:17:06 GMT -5
I am looking at you Harvard. It's time you bring some fans to Fitton. In 2019 it was embarrassing how few Harvard fans there were. Your team is 2-0
I agree that HC would draw way more HC students with a night game at Fitton.
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Post by sader1970 on Sept 27, 2021 21:34:48 GMT -5
Maybe it was just where I was sitting but to my eye, the student crowd at the Merrimack game was as large as I've seen in years. Not especially raucous and mostly sitting on their hands but they were there in body if not in spirit.
Maybe NAD or 45 who were sitting on the visitor side of Fitton got a better view as to student crowd size. The bad loss to Merrimack might surpress the student turnout but hopefully offset by the great Yale and Monmouth wins.
P.S. Can you imagine if they actually cheered?!
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 27, 2021 21:40:59 GMT -5
I am looking at you Harvard. It's time you bring some fans to Fitton. In 2019 it was embarrassing how few Harvard fans there were. Your team is 2-0 I agree that HC would draw way more HC students with a night game at Fitton. If the Hahvad community is pumped and jacked after Friday Night Lights maybe they will send a couple of busses down the Mass Pike or take the train. archive.boston.com/sports/articles/2006/06/06/harvard_stadium_to_get_lights_new_turf/
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Sept 29, 2021 5:19:26 GMT -5
Has anyone noticed that Merrimack topped Delaware State 47-10, while Georgetown only beat them 20-14? Discuss. Confirms my opinion that while HC had a let down against them, Merrimack is also a good football team. Congratulations to the other Bay State Catholic FCS team. Somebody should come up with a trophy idea. I didn't know Merrimack was Catholic. You learn something new every day.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Sept 29, 2021 5:22:53 GMT -5
I am looking at you Harvard. It's time you bring some fans to Fitton. In 2019 it was embarrassing how few Harvard fans there were. Your team is 2-0 I agree that HC would draw way more HC students with a night game at Fitton. Don't hold your breath. The number of Harvard fans who are as excited as we are about Saturday's game could fit in a phone booth. All the more bulletin board material. As TG used to say anytime we played Harvard, Yale or Brown, "They don't give a **** about you guys!!"
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Post by matunuck on Sept 29, 2021 7:37:08 GMT -5
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 29, 2021 7:45:28 GMT -5
Thanks for that post. Interesting way they match selected stats. It does make Harvard's running game appear to be impressive.
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Post by hchoops on Sept 29, 2021 7:53:46 GMT -5
I think they left out Siderman and should have included the opponents that each team has faced to explain those stats.
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 29, 2021 7:58:48 GMT -5
I agree about Harvard facing weaker opponents than HC has faced this year. However, the numbers are interesting, esp. the ypc of those Harvard backs.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Sept 29, 2021 8:00:05 GMT -5
I think they left out Siderman and should have included the opponents that each team has faced to explain those stats. This "article" was generated by Data Skrive, not a human. Metrics are being "translated" into an article. Not going to find human analysis and nuances here.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Sept 29, 2021 8:28:51 GMT -5
Sagarin has Harvard as a 55.0 Predictor and HC at 48.8 . If you look at the teams they've played here's what you come up with
Harvard won at Georgetown (31.4) by 35= 31 + 3 for visitors + 35 for winning margin= 69 Harvard vs Brown (38.3)= 38 -3 + 32 margin= 67
HC @ UConn (44.1)= 44 + 3 + 11= 58 HC vs Merrimack (41.4)= 41 -3 -14= 24 HC @ Yale (49.2) = 49 + 3points in each game. + 3= 55 HC @ Monmouth (47.7)= 48 + 3 +30= 81
Of course one could say that Harvard could have run up the score and won by 50 or 60
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Post by hchoops on Sept 29, 2021 8:46:13 GMT -5
How is Yale a higher predictor than HC when we beat them at the Bowl ? Guess it is that Merrimack loss I presume Yale’s 6 point win over 0-2 Cornell impressed Sagarin’s computer
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Post by Ignutz on Sept 29, 2021 10:55:48 GMT -5
I think they left out Siderman and should have included the opponents that each team has faced to explain those stats. And maybe "Bugler" Dobbs???
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Sept 29, 2021 15:26:30 GMT -5
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 29, 2021 15:46:59 GMT -5
I remember seeing that article and thinking how petty it was the time. Age has done nothing improve it. Getting their free pizza at the end of the 3rd quarter...JUST IMAGINE THAT. The pain of that is still obvious.
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 29, 2021 17:35:04 GMT -5
I hope a young B. Foley didn't go hungry for three quarters during that game.😂
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Post by sader81 on Sept 29, 2021 17:37:36 GMT -5
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