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Post by trimster on Dec 4, 2021 8:30:36 GMT -5
You have to have a qb who can throw the football when playing against good teams. Supposedly we have one in Siderman but we haven't given him much activity in the last two games. That's a small disappointment. I watched most of the game and I thought Sluka did a pretty decent job of throwing the ball. The last 2 weeks probably represent 90% of the HC action I watched this year but I didn’t find Sluka to be the passing liability some make him out to be. I was particularly impressed with his ability to throw while rolling to his right. |
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Post by rickii on Dec 4, 2021 8:32:20 GMT -5
Supposedly we have one in Siderman but we haven't given him much activity in the last two games. That's a small disappointment. I watched most of the game and I thought Sluka did a pretty decent job of throwing the ball. The last 2 weeks probably represent 90% of the HC action I watched this year but I didn’t find Sluka to be the passing liability some make him out to be. I was particularly impressed with his ability to throw while rolling to his right. |
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Post by trimster on Dec 4, 2021 8:37:55 GMT -5
Regarding Chesney and his future - to me right now the most realistic job is Delaware. Great conference, great stadium, solid roster that is 8 months removed from the National Semi Finals. And the job pays 400k+ I’ve gone on the Delaware football board and his name is not at the top of the list by their alum. Ryan Canty - Sam Houston OC and Delaware alum tops their list. Delawares biggest issue is offense right now. I wonder if he’d be interested in the Temple job if it opened up in a year or two. |
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 4, 2021 8:45:48 GMT -5
First thing Monday morning the school should give Chesney and staff a 25% case and a one year extension. The new AD can adjust upward once on the payroll. Will that be enough or will have move onto a coordinator position at a Power 5 school?? Does he head to LSU to join Kelly's staff? Do you always have to find a negative somewhere? Please giver it a rest. |
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Post by rickii on Dec 4, 2021 9:02:37 GMT -5
I watched most of the game and I thought Sluka did a pretty decent job of throwing the ball. The last 2 weeks probably represent 90% of the HC action I watched this year but I didn’t find Sluka to be the passing liability some make him out to be. I was particularly impressed with his ability to throw while rolling to his right. You saw what I did as well....and the game stats back us up. There are a handful of people here who appear to be clueless. Aside from that, HC was clearly the better team at least for one night. Check out the entire stat sheet particularly TOP. Great game plan by both coordinators. Yes, Chesney botched the first half FG bit so he is human. On Dobbs....great player and unfortunate he got hurt. But the LB on nova...best I’ve seen this year including P5 teams....21 tackles last night is obscene!!!! Oh and over the winter can someone please attend a tutorial on how to apply a logo decal on a football helmet. Still too many not aligned with the top of the face mask and many downright crooked too varying degrees. On the suggestion/request of a 25% raise plus 1 year extension for Chesney....wow! Such a slap in the face would be enough to push him to the Delaware job. |
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Post by breezy on Dec 4, 2021 9:03:19 GMT -5
Post-game interview with Villanova coach.
Compliments about Holy Cross at about 0:40 through 1:00.
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Post by crusader1970 on Dec 4, 2021 9:15:43 GMT -5
Only on Crossports can you find universal praise after a 5 point loss when we gave away 6 points (+ a PAT)
Only on CROSSPORTS can you find someone who highlights a questionable coaching decision by our most successful coach and yet constantly supports a coach who is totally destroying our historically most successful program.
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Post by hcpride on Dec 4, 2021 9:19:51 GMT -5
Supposedly we have one in Siderman but we haven't given him much activity in the last two games. That's a small disappointment. I watched most of the game and I thought Sluka did a pretty decent job of throwing the ball. The last 2 weeks probably represent 90% of the HC action I watched this year but I didn’t find Sluka to be the passing liability some make him out to be. I was particularly impressed with his ability to throw while rolling to his right. It does seem quite a few of his throws were either tipped at the line of scrimmage or knocked away downfield by defenders or underthrown but I agree his throwing flaws can be overstated. He throws well enough now to be a PL-winning QB. |
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Post by rickii on Dec 4, 2021 9:21:17 GMT -5
Regarding Chesney and his future - to me right now the most realistic job is Delaware. Great conference, great stadium, solid roster that is 8 months removed from the National Semi Finals. And the job pays 400k+ I’ve gone on the Delaware football board and his name is not at the top of the list by their alum. Ryan Canty - Sam Houston OC and Delaware alum tops their list. Delawares biggest issue is offense right now. I wonder if he’d be interested in the Temple job if it opened up in a year or two. Respectfully, why would a young highly thought of coach entertain the briefest of thoughts about an obscure, dead-end job at Temple? dharry - re: $400,000 was Rocco’s deal at Delaware? Any idea what Chesney is getting paid? |
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Dec 4, 2021 9:23:26 GMT -5
I wonder if he’d be interested in the Temple job if it opened up in a year or two. Respectfully, why would a young highly thought of coach entertain the briefest of thoughts about an obscure, dead-end job at Temple? dharry - re: $400,000 was Rocco’s deal at Delaware? Any idea what Chesney is getting paid? The coach of the Carolina Panthers jump started his head coaching career at Temple not long ago. Temple also pays their head coach around $1mm. |
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Post by sader1970 on Dec 4, 2021 9:25:31 GMT -5
Another Jen Tolland article this morning:
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Post by efg72 on Dec 4, 2021 9:26:43 GMT -5
On the suggestion/request of a 25% raise plus 1 year extension for Chesney....wow! Such a slap in the face would be enough to push him to the Delaware job. Three points I said until the new AD comes on board to provide a new contract. The gesture on Monday would serve as a bonus for this season and in January you would formalize the new contract Second- you can't run to Delaware or anywhere else unless they offer you an interview and the job Third, find the money to double the salary of the entire football staff with incentives. If Chesney leaves at some point, you make this one of the best jobs in 1AA |
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Post by alum on Dec 4, 2021 9:40:49 GMT -5
Supposedly we have one in Siderman but we haven't given him much activity in the last two games. That's a small disappointment. I watched most of the game and I thought Sluka did a pretty decent job of throwing the ball. The last 2 weeks probably represent 90% of the HC action I watched this year but I didn’t find Sluka to be the passing liability some make him out to be. I was particularly impressed with his ability to throw while rolling to his right. Serious question. Is there a quarterback consultant who can work with Sluka on technique and decision making during the off-season? I know Roper is a QB, but I have to assume there are people who exclusively do this type of work. Not sure how NCAA rules would treat this. |
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Post by HC92 on Dec 4, 2021 9:51:41 GMT -5
I watched most of the game and I thought Sluka did a pretty decent job of throwing the ball. The last 2 weeks probably represent 90% of the HC action I watched this year but I didn’t find Sluka to be the passing liability some make him out to be. I was particularly impressed with his ability to throw while rolling to his right. Serious question. Is there a quarterback consultant who can work with Sluka on technique and decision making during the off-season? I know Roper is a QB, but I have to assume there are people who exclusively do this type of work. Not sure how NCAA rules would tear this. I think his decision-making is generally pretty good. The throws are just inconsistent. I think his when to throw and when to tuck it and run decisions are pretty good for the most part. There was a fourth and 10 yesterday where I would have liked to have seen him throw the ball downfield but the pocket was a mess and he tried to keep the play alive until something opened up. He somehow gained five yards even though he was engulfed at the line of scrimmage. |
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Post by HC92 on Dec 4, 2021 9:53:22 GMT -5
And I agree with whoever posted it earlier that the Nova QB was generally terrible throwing the ball. Kudos to the DBs but there was nothing impressive about their aerial attack.
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Post by dharry13 on Dec 4, 2021 9:56:54 GMT -5
Yea I have a general idea rickii
It’s not 400k
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Post by HC92 on Dec 4, 2021 9:59:22 GMT -5
If we’re going to be a football school, maybe we should swap salaries between basketball head coach and football head coach. My guess is that we pay Nelson materially more than we pay Chesney.
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Post by alum on Dec 4, 2021 10:00:05 GMT -5
Serious question. Is there a quarterback consultant who can work with Sluka on technique and decision making during the off-season? I know Roper is a QB, but I have to assume there are people who exclusively do this type of work. Not sure how NCAA rules would tear this. I think his decision-making is generally pretty good. The throws are just inconsistent. I think his when to throw and when to tuck it and run decisions are pretty good for the most part. There was a fourth and 10 yesterday where I would have liked to have seen him throw the ball downfield but the pocket was a mess and he tried to keep the play alive until something opened up. He somehow gained five yards even though he was engulfed at the line of scrimmage. I was thinking less about whether he tucks and runs and more about which receiver to target. Admittedly I only have the occasional comments by announcers on which to base my interest in Matt working on this aspect of his game. |
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 4, 2021 10:00:17 GMT -5
On the suggestion/request of a 25% raise plus 1 year extension for Chesney....wow! Such a slap in the face would be enough to push him to the Delaware job. Three points I said until the new AD comes on board to provide a new contract. The gesture on Monday would serve as a bonus for this season and in January you would formalize the new contract Second- you can't run to Delaware or anywhere else unless they offer you an interview and the job Third, find the money to double the salary of the entire football staff with incentives. If Chesney leaves at some point, you make this one of the best jobs in 1AA Good points but an excellent salary for MBB Head Coach didn't prevent HC from hiring the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse😊 since Willard left. Appropriate use of incentives should allow for the most effective coaches to get the highest salaries at HC. And no more using HC to learn how to be a head coach unless you are moving up from a successful Holy Cross program, a la Duffner. |
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Post by bringbackcaro on Dec 4, 2021 10:04:42 GMT -5
Only on Crossports can you find universal praise after a 5 point loss when we gave away 6 points (+ a PAT)
Only on CROSSPORTS can you find someone who highlights a questionable coaching decision by our most successful coach and yet constantly supports a coach who is totally destroying our historically most successful program.
1) You’re completely delusional if you think Nelson is the one destroying the MBB program. You must have been asleep for the 10 years before Nelson arrived. 2) Other coaches at HC are not relevant to the topic of the football coach blowing 6 points in a 5 point game, where if he even got 1 of the 2 blunders right in the first half, we would have been driving for a FG to win at the end of the game rather than needing a TD — a huge difference for the HC offense. But because our other programs stink, I guess that doesn’t matter. |
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Post by thecrossisback on Dec 4, 2021 10:07:36 GMT -5
Only on CROSSPORTS can you find someone who highlights a questionable coaching decision by our most successful coach and yet constantly supports a coach who is totally destroying our historically most successful program.
1) You’re completely delusional if you think Nelson is the one destroying the MBB program. You must have been asleep for the 10 years before Nelson arrived. 2) Other coaches at HC are not relevant to the topic of the football coach blowing 6 points in a 5 point game, where if he even got 1 of the 2 blunders right in the first half, we would have been driving for a FG to win at the end of the game rather than needing a TD — a huge difference for the HC offense. But because our other programs stink, I guess that doesn’t matter. Oh yeah nobody would confuse Nelson with John Wooden. He can't coach. Keep making excuses for him. Also on the football game. You can say that but you don't know if thats how the game would have still played out. |
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Post by rgs318 on Dec 4, 2021 10:08:10 GMT -5
And I agree with whoever posted it earlier that the Nova QB was generally terrible throwing the ball. Kudos to the DBs but there was nothing impressive about their aerial attack. Well put. The first time the poor air attack of Villanova was commented on posted here, there was no mention of any role being played by the HC defense. BTW, I believe our pass defense has gotten consistently better through the year, We are not the easy touch we were at times in the past. I look. forward to seeing how and where this team will improve next season. My thanks to all of them for the great season we had this time. |
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Post by bringbackcaro on Dec 4, 2021 10:13:41 GMT -5
1) You’re completely delusional if you think Nelson is the one destroying the MBB program. You must have been asleep for the 10 years before Nelson arrived. 2) Other coaches at HC are not relevant to the topic of the football coach blowing 6 points in a 5 point game, where if he even got 1 of the 2 blunders right in the first half, we would have been driving for a FG to win at the end of the game rather than needing a TD — a huge difference for the HC offense. But because our other programs stink, I guess that doesn’t matter. Also on the football game. You can say that but you don't know if thats how the game would have still played out. Completely true, but as others have mentioned the Nova QB was awful, and our defense was great. The decisions in the first half to not take the first FG, then inexplicably wait to rush Ng out for the FG at the end of the half were as if Chesney thought it was going to be a high scoring game where we needed to match touchdowns throughout, which was a significant miscalculation. |
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 4, 2021 10:19:15 GMT -5
Was it my imagination or was about 75% of the anecdotal chit chat between announcers last night about HC and not the seeded home team Villanova?
Another intangible Chesney has helped create for HC is positive buzz about a small college doing things the right way and succeeding. We're on an upward trajectory without compromising the soul of the school to attain it.
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Post by joe on Dec 4, 2021 10:20:59 GMT -5
Some comments in this thread reflect lack of knowledge/experience playing D1 football. Otherwise good offenses tend to sputter against good defenses and vice versa. You can’t comment on either in a vacuum. What I saw where two well-matched, well-coached, highly athletic football teams who both played excellent football last night. For HC, with all of its PL and school-imposed handicaps, to be at a place where it can compete like this against the CAA champs in the second round of the FCS playoffs indicates to everyone that the program is probably at a high point, and it seems like there is a lot of gas left in the tank. Villanova almost beat Penn State for crying out loud. Plus they were at home with two full weeks to heal and repair vs HC’s short prep week. HC wins this by 14 if the roles were reversed, which at the rate we’re improving may be as early as next year. We should be using our energy as alumni to advocate for an endowed coaching position, not bickering about a bad throw or two.
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