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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 15, 2022 19:19:00 GMT -5
The last AD literally went to college an hour away and his previous three jobs before HC were at far off schools in Chestnut Hill and Providence, RI. Missing my point, Blossom didn't grow up in this state and probably had very little connection to Holy Cross before he came East, same with Pine. Hughes has grown up in Massachusetts and probably knows family, friends etc that have matriculated at HC. Does that make him bettah suited at HC than Mssrs. Blossom and Pine? We shall see....but I think he has a far better feel for Holy Cross than those guys did when they came to Mt St James. I would say professional experience in the New England market is better than growing up here (Hughes spent two years at BC on the football staff in 2005 and 2006). Blossom was part of a PC Athletic Department that constantly ran PC Basketball ads on the billboard right next to Holy Cross on 290. You could also say MB was more suited to work at HC because he worked at three private schools while Kit worked with two large state universities.
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 15, 2022 20:07:55 GMT -5
Whatever asset you bring to the table, work it hard for HC. Chesney had no D-1 experience, no high academic experience as head coach, limited scholarship recruiting experience, but he had positive connections in Worcester and has expanded those to the benefit of HC. Did previous AD's use their past experiences and connections to help HC? Hard to say but can't think of anything specific. I don't believe FADMB added any MBB games against BC or PC or got HC Men's Hockey into H.E. so his BC, NU and PC experience wasn't that tangible.
Chesney on the other hand helped make the Polar Park game a smashing success.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 16, 2022 12:23:38 GMT -5
Whatever asset you bring to the table, work it hard for HC. Chesney had no D-1 experience, no high academic experience as head coach, limited scholarship recruiting experience, but he had positive connections in Worcester and has expanded those to the benefit of HC. Did previous AD's use their past experiences and connections to help HC? Hard to say but can't think of anything specific. I don't believe FADMB added any MBB games against BC or PC or got HC Men's Hockey into H.E. so his BC, NU and PC experience wasn't that tangible. Chesney on the other hand helped make the Polar Park game a smashing success. Pretty sure HC mens hockey played all of BC, PC, Brown, and NU during his tenure. Three of those were this year and all in Worcester. Did Chesney make Polar Park a success or was the marketing staff? Or just because it was the first football game at the stadium? The novelty of it all?
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 16, 2022 12:39:05 GMT -5
While I love Chesney, I'd be surprised if he had much to do with playing at Polar Park. I'm sure he had power of veto and probably liked the idea for the novelty and to bring back local Worcesterites but not something I'd expect from the football coach to initiate.
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 16, 2022 12:44:42 GMT -5
Whatever asset you bring to the table, work it hard for HC. Chesney had no D-1 experience, no high academic experience as head coach, limited scholarship recruiting experience, but he had positive connections in Worcester and has expanded those to the benefit of HC. Did previous AD's use their past experiences and connections to help HC? Hard to say but can't think of anything specific. I don't believe FADMB added any MBB games against BC or PC or got HC Men's Hockey into H.E. so his BC, NU and PC experience wasn't that tangible. Chesney on the other hand helped make the Polar Park game a smashing success. Pretty sure HC mens hockey played all of BC, PC, Brown, and NU during his tenure. Three of those were this year and all in Worcester. Did Chesney make Polar Park a success or was the marketing staff? Or just because it was the first football game at the stadium? The novelty of it all? All of the above. But I know one area fan who warmed up to HC FB recently and had been a fan of Chesney's success because he spent time at Assumption as a member of W.I.S.E. (Worcester Institute for Senior Education). It's all connected. Few coaches have brought a following to HC but Chesney has to an extent. Would MB have had enough time at HC to influence those hockey games or their location?
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 16, 2022 12:50:54 GMT -5
While I love Chesney, I'd be surprised if he had much to do with playing at Polar Park. I'm sure he had power of veto and probably liked the idea for the novelty and to bring back local Worcesterites but not something I'd expect from the football coach to initiate. I think Larry Lucchino provided the initiative. I just picked up on a few locals with ties to Assumption bringing up Chesney and HC FB to me where I don't recall any prior interest.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 16, 2022 13:26:28 GMT -5
I don't hear anyone giving MB credit for bringing the marquee regular season college hockey tournament to Worcester.
Was that Riga's fault that it was a disaster at the gate? Just trying to have consistency here.
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Post by longsuffering on Jan 16, 2022 14:03:33 GMT -5
I don't hear anyone giving MB credit for bringing the marquee regular season college hockey tournament to Worcester. Was that Riga's fault that it was a disaster at the gate? Just trying to have consistency here. If that was because of MB, praise to him. Not Riga's fault for the low turnout but validates the point that it is hard for a career assistant to bring public recognition by area sports fans to HC like a head coach who has been successful, especially locally, can.
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Post by HC92 on Jan 16, 2022 14:48:10 GMT -5
Whatever asset you bring to the table, work it hard for HC. Chesney had no D-1 experience, no high academic experience as head coach, limited scholarship recruiting experience, but he had positive connections in Worcester and has expanded those to the benefit of HC. Did previous AD's use their past experiences and connections to help HC? Hard to say but can't think of anything specific. I don't believe FADMB added any MBB games against BC or PC or got HC Men's Hockey into H.E. so his BC, NU and PC experience wasn't that tangible. Chesney on the other hand helped make the Polar Park game a smashing success. Pretty sure HC mens hockey played all of BC, PC, Brown, and NU during his tenure. Three of those were this year and all in Worcester. Did Chesney make Polar Park a success or was the marketing staff? Or just because it was the first football game at the stadium? The novelty of it all? FOLEY CALLED SOMETHING HOLY CROSS DID A SUCCESS! Spread the word. Today is an historic day here at Crossports.
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Post by nhteamer on Jan 17, 2022 11:05:46 GMT -5
It all makes 0 sense medically.
HC Virtue signaling; feels SO good.
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Post by WCHC Sports on Jan 18, 2022 9:51:51 GMT -5
I'm not yet eligible for a booster (nor do I want it), and I wouldn't want to sit and scream and sweat into an N95 for 2 hours, so it doesn't look like this policy is moving at least one dubious Crossports poster any closer to seeing a game in person this year! Why would you take the vaccine and not the booster? 🤷♂️ I got COVID, likely through exposure from the kids still attending school in person. Ironically it was about two weeks before I was scheduled to get the vaccine. So I did what the doctor said-- I waited 6 months and then got the vaccine.
I didn't want the vaccine, nor did I think I needed it. I believe with some reading that I would have natural immunity after my infection. Sure, it may wane over time-- after all, you likely only catch chicken pox once, but you can still catch a cold several times a year. But for my risks and exposure, I thought I'd be fine and was happy with the consequences either way. Those around me with health conditions all had the shot around the same time I got sick. But then NYC and many places in Westchester started putting in vax requirements. My life would be severely inconvenienced, if not made miserable if I didn't flash the vaccine card. Also, the "let me do something for my fellow countryman" feeling, perhaps some Jesuit-trained empathy, crept into my head. So I got the vaccine shots. First one made me feel like I had a terrible hangover for two days. Second one had me experience some pretty wild muscle spasms unlike anything I've ever gone through, and had some difficulty breathing/walking/standing as a result. Took some meds and was better a few days later.
Getting that sick from the shots to prevent... getting... less-sick? Oh wait, it doesn't actually prevent anything? To me was the most illogical, STUPID thing I have done for myself. And the more I read about thousands if not millions of other people either living or dying, but having made their OWN choices up to that point, made me feel even more foolish. The very thing I have been taught my whole life from my family, to my eight years of Jesuit schooling, to my own stubborn common sense: be open, be a sponge, be patient, but be SKEPTICAL and make your own well-informed choices with that decision-- I went against by Compromising for the Card (that should be a bumper sticker some fellow Republican on the nutjob end of the spectrum will make, I'm sure).
Right is right even if no one is doing it. Wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it. Someone important to yesterday's Federal holiday may have uttered words close to that. For me? The virus has become far too political on both sides. The opportunity to be well-advised and well-taken-care-of by government policies is long gone. What do I see? Something that in its worst form didn't harm me or my family. A shot that at best will keep me from getting something that in 2022 is FAR less dangerous both in its standalone form, and as a result of medical treatments available to help. A vaccine that doesn't seem to do anything. It's like snapping my fingers to keep the tigers away. See any tigers? No. It must be working!
If people with the shot and the other shot and the next shot and the follow up shot and the shot shot shot shot shot were allowed to go out without masks, without the social distancing, without the bull#@*&$~!, congratulations: you'd have coerced me again to get jabbed and take a REAL risk to health to fkking just get along with it. Instead? You have to get jabbed and still have to live in fear and isolate and mask and shut everything down. So what's the point?
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 18, 2022 10:15:09 GMT -5
No one has ever said the vaccine would "prevent" getting "less" sick (except perhaps you in your last post). If that were the case, why would anyone do it? It does, however, seem to reduce the serious nature of break-through infections. No one has said the vaccine didn't do anything (again, except for you in tour last post). I know there are varied opinions on the vaccine and booster. I got all of the shots but I can accept that some may not wish to do so. I can also live with the restrictions that may seem silly to some, but if they reduce the anxiety for some people and reduce the likelihood of infection for others then they seem to have 2 purposes. Remember last year's flu infections? Most don't because those things (masks, isolation and social distancing) did seem to prevent a statistically significant number of cases. Will the numbers go up again now that many have abandoned those precautions? I guess time will tell. I wish good health to you and to your loved ones.
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Post by WCHC Sports on Jan 18, 2022 11:09:49 GMT -5
The vaccine made me more sick than COVID did.
The vaccine is not preventing scores of people from testing positive for COVID, and a near-equal number of people from falling ill. It's allegedly keeping people from being hospital-level sick, but is correlation the same as causation? And earlier in this thread, 30% of those in the ICU have taken the vaccine.
So I can get a shot that made me rather seriously, although briefly, ill... or I can get COVID that didn't really make me too badly ill? And is COVID is now less dangerous than it was in 2020 or even 2021? Tell me why?
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Post by bfoley82 on Jan 18, 2022 13:22:37 GMT -5
The vaccine made me more sick than COVID did. The vaccine is not preventing scores of people from testing positive for COVID, and a near-equal number of people from falling ill. It's allegedly keeping people from being hospital-level sick, but is correlation the same as causation? And earlier in this thread, 30% of those in the ICU have taken the vaccine. So I can get a shot that made me rather seriously, although briefly, ill... or I can get COVID that didn't really make me too badly ill? And is COVID is now less dangerous than it was in 2020 or even 2021? Tell me why? 30 percent of people in the ICU of 80 percent of the vaccinated general population. That means 70 percent of the people in the ICU are from the 20 percent unvaccinated. Pretty bad numbers.
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Post by dadominate on Jan 18, 2022 15:18:20 GMT -5
No one has ever said the vaccine would "prevent" getting "less" sick (except perhaps you in your last post). If that were the case, why would anyone do it? It does, however, seem to reduce the serious nature of break-through infections. No one has said the vaccine didn't do anything (again, except for you in tour last post). I know there are varied opinions on the vaccine and booster. I got all of the shots but I can accept that some may not wish to do so. I can also live with the restrictions that may seem silly to some, but if they reduce the anxiety for some people and reduce the likelihood of infection for others then they seem to have 2 purposes. Remember last year's flu infections? Most don't because those things (masks, isolation and social distancing) did seem to prevent a statistically significant number of cases. Will the numbers go up again now that many have abandoned those precautions? I guess time will tell. I wish good health to you and to your loved ones. the big problem is that the government, health agencies, media, and pharma companies (who influence the aforementioned entities) were ***DEAD WRONG*** about the vaccines stopping transmission of covid. below is one of many compilations of the disinformation that the government, health agencies, media, and pharma companies spread regarding covid vaccines. these are their own words. boriquagato.substack.com/p/yes-the-vaccines-were-supposed-totrust in these entities has been rightfully lost. the fact that monovalent, nonsterilizing, extraordinarily leaky vaccines were MANDATED and numerous preventive and therapeutic approaches were ignored or actively smeared because they would harm the profit lines of these vaccines will go down as the greatest public health failure of any of our lifetimes.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jan 18, 2022 16:31:45 GMT -5
No one has ever said the vaccine would "prevent" getting "less" sick (except perhaps you in your last post). If that were the case, why would anyone do it? It does, however, seem to reduce the serious nature of break-through infections. No one has said the vaccine didn't do anything (again, except for you in tour last post). I know there are varied opinions on the vaccine and booster. I got all of the shots but I can accept that some may not wish to do so. I can also live with the restrictions that may seem silly to some, but if they reduce the anxiety for some people and reduce the likelihood of infection for others then they seem to have 2 purposes. Remember last year's flu infections? Most don't because those things (masks, isolation and social distancing) did seem to prevent a statistically significant number of cases. Will the numbers go up again now that many have abandoned those precautions? I guess time will tell. I wish good health to you and to your loved ones. trust in these entities has been rightfully lost. the fact that monovalent, nonsterilizing, extraordinarily leaky vaccines were MANDATED and numerous preventive and therapeutic approaches were ignored or actively smeared because they would harm the profit lines of these vaccines will go down as the greatest public health failure of any of our lifetimes. I'll go one step further. Not only is this an epic public health failure, but these are crimes against humanity. Withholding life saving therapeutics from people is criminal. Studies show that ivermectin taken prophylactically stops transmission. Members of congress have been getting it when they have COVID -- it's just the average American who is prevented from getting it. As you know, dado, doctors have resigned because they have been prevented from treating COVID with ivermectin. The media has done their job is spinning ivermectin as this horse drug that only right wing lunatics take. Just not the case.
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Post by lou on Jan 18, 2022 17:26:56 GMT -5
Fda.gov
Ivermectin Products for Animals Are Different from Ivermectin Products for People
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 18, 2022 17:46:41 GMT -5
Which one do they give to the "animals" who populate our Congress?
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Post by Crosser on Jan 18, 2022 23:04:14 GMT -5
This is probably the worst thread I’ve ever seen here. Hope it goes away soon.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 19, 2022 0:44:53 GMT -5
Do you realize how long it has been (maybe a relief to some) since we had any discussion about HC basketball-I mean the product on the floor, not schedules, spectator counts, or any other ancillary matters? A very long time, to be sure
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Post by timholycross on Jan 19, 2022 6:36:58 GMT -5
Hard to have one when there are no games and Tass/Pravda (whichever-you-prefer) doesn't let anyone know the general condition of the players and when the show will resume.
I don't consider the news blackout ancillary, by the way, but I can respect that some do.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jan 19, 2022 7:50:27 GMT -5
Do you realize how long it has been (maybe a relief to some) since we had any discussion about HC basketball-I mean the product on the floor, not schedules, spectator counts, or any other ancillary matters? A very long time, to be sure Remember when our players actually used to stay here for four years? Tough to stay attached to a program when its been a constant revolving door for 5 years. Every time we get a new group of freshmen in, I'm always excited to watch the rebuild from day 1. But then by next year,everyone's gone.
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Post by mm67 on Jan 19, 2022 8:10:57 GMT -5
Aren't all patients health records protected under the HIPPA patient privacy law?
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Post by WCHC Sports on Jan 19, 2022 8:39:28 GMT -5
If information is volunteered by the coach, as is common and widespread across sports, there shouldn't be a problem. I doubt HC is hiding behind the law here-- they're not only being quiet about injuries and health status generally; they're being mum on the whole program in almost all respects.
Speaking of respect, sorry for the KY dig yesterday, KY. Uncalled for on my part.
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Post by Tom on Jan 19, 2022 8:54:39 GMT -5
Do you realize how long it has been (maybe a relief to some) since we had any discussion about HC basketball-I mean the product on the floor, not schedules, spectator counts, or any other ancillary matters? A very long time, to be sure There's still a game Saturday. Bucknell is currently in last place at 0-6 in league play. A win will be a big step forward in meeting pre-season expectations of a 9th place finish. This will likely require someone stepping up and doing something positive if the team goes into a funk like the 10 minutes in the middle of the first half vs Lehigh
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