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Post by Sons of Vaval on Aug 23, 2022 7:21:05 GMT -5
Could another one be on the way?
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Post by dharry13 on Aug 23, 2022 7:34:05 GMT -5
I could be wrong SOV but I don't think so. He actually posted two of them, one right after the first. I think DiMike does this after a players has posted their commit online. I think both of those relate to Jovan George and Cam Jones - DiMike just hadn't gotten to it before today.
Usually it all starts with a post from Scott James.
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Post by rgs318 on Aug 23, 2022 7:34:33 GMT -5
17 purple crosses have any special meaning?
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Post by dharry13 on Aug 23, 2022 7:41:12 GMT -5
17 purple crosses have any special meaning? Great call RGS. If you look at DiMike's posts. Each purple cross represents the number of verbal commits they have. He increases the number of purple of crosses after each commit. Currently HC has 17 verbal commits and he posted 17 crosses. Interesting. So unfortunately this doesn't mean there is another verbal at this time. |
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Post by breezy on Aug 23, 2022 7:43:04 GMT -5
BUT -- if I remember correctly, we have had 18 signals from Scott James -- so I don't know what to think right now.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Aug 23, 2022 7:43:59 GMT -5
The punt returns are unreal, especially #3-- This guy can go from a dead stop to 4.5 speed in a few strides-or at least that's what it seems like. If Cam was 1/10th faster (per 40 time) and played a bit higher level of HS competition, he’d likely be on his way to Penn St. I made a similar statement about Dippre that he would likely be going mid tier ACC or Big 10 if he played in a larger/more competitive classification. 2 great wins so far from PA in this class. A state that has produced great value for the program over the years. Cam doesn’t have much film as a CB given he’s asked to do so much for his HS team. I would like to see more of him in single coverage but given his athleticism I’m confident a full year with Coach Barnes and he will be ready to play a lot as a Sophomore. |
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Post by midwestsader05 on Aug 23, 2022 7:44:34 GMT -5
BUT -- if I remember correctly, we have had 18 signals from Scott James -- so I don't know what to think right now. We still have one in waiting Breezy. Not sure of the ETA of that commit going public. There was no signal from James on the punter/baseball player. |
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Post by dharry13 on Aug 23, 2022 7:47:11 GMT -5
Correct Breezy. We have one signal unaccounted for. However DiMichele only posts his tweet after a player actually posts their commit on line. So right now we have 17 kids who have posted their commitment on Twitter, Instagram, etc. One player verbally committed but never posted their commit online.
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Aug 23, 2022 12:37:19 GMT -5
So is Wieder, the baseball / football commit, being counted as a baseball commit by the football coaches?
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Post by dharry13 on Aug 23, 2022 12:39:19 GMT -5
My guess is yes.
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Post by hcnj on Aug 23, 2022 13:12:10 GMT -5
Does anyone have any insight into how many, any, max schollie equivalents we'll hold for late fall. Like for Slade, Jobity, Powell type signing. My guess is the staff just holds a pot and lets talent dictate partial/max number and use.
My uninformed guess is bucket 1, guys committed, is heavily max and halves. Bucket 2, guys on our active radar screen, will be many and halves/partials. But the bucket 3 late fall might be small in number but enough to get 1-2 big fish smaller pond guys.
The active DB pool has several guys that seem to have interesting recruiting profiles, Inge, early Maryland offer but posts few and not super interesting offers. Holmes early Az State and mostly FCS. He might have low FBS. Horany had only us but now has another, the other a full schollie from Sam Houston- impressive offer. Comestro has a good haul of East Coast PL and Ivy type offers and WRubs decent offers also and both seem to have options for good money from good schools. There's a guy named Comestro on the Marist roster from the same town in California. And I don't consider Carr (like Burton) a guy who's going to pull HC out of his magic hat.
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Post by dharry13 on Aug 23, 2022 13:34:51 GMT -5
I have an idea but I know the coaches have asked not to talk about who’s a full, who’s a partial, etc. My guess is pure speculation but I think it’s probably reasonable. That said my personal guess is they try to get 22-23 in the first signing period. Leaving 5 to 6 for the second signing period with some money left over to attract those 5/6 kids.
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Post by hcnj on Aug 23, 2022 18:19:06 GMT -5
I have an idea but I know the coaches have asked not to talk about who’s a full, who’s a partial, etc. My guess is pure speculation but I think it’s probably reasonable. That said my personal guess is they try to get 22-23 in the first signing period. Leaving 5 to 6 for the second signing period with some money left over to attract those 5/6 kids. And appropriately so. I'm concerned that the DBs that are active might not be realistic but no one better than the staff to balance everything. |
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Post by HC92 on Aug 23, 2022 19:55:55 GMT -5
Never like when guys who have given a verbal commitment to HC keep posting other offers.
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Post by hcnj on Aug 23, 2022 20:00:07 GMT -5
Yikes, me neither.
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Post by efg72 on Aug 23, 2022 20:02:59 GMT -5
Our coaches are much smarter, because if i was the coach
as soon as i saw it i would call him and his parents and ask why
If i didnt like his answer i would pull the offer
But that is just me
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 23, 2022 20:13:52 GMT -5
“Never like when guys who have given a verbal commitment to HC keep posting other offers. ”
My bar is even lower, I suppose. I refuse to get excited about ANY recruit who verbals, especially high value ones, until they sign the NLI.
The old days when someone’s “word is his bond” is long gone. Long, long gone.😢
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Post by HC92 on Aug 23, 2022 20:46:04 GMT -5
Our coaches are much smarter, because if i was the coach as soon as i saw it i would call him and his parents and ask why If i didnt like his answer i would pull the offer But that is just me I think most fans have the same reaction. Coaches probably have to consider a lot of less emotional factors before deciding how to handle. Only way it works for the kid is if he told his HC recruiter, “hey, got a walk-on offer from Penn State, want to brag a little on social media, but absolutely still 100% committed to HC. And this will be the last one.” |
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Post by football44 on Aug 24, 2022 7:25:52 GMT -5
Never like when guys who have given a verbal commitment to HC keep posting other offers. Not happy about this! You're either in or out. Might want to talk with Mr. Dobbs. He had a PWO at Michigan. How's his decision working out? PWO= Front row seat at all of Penn States games. Different generation. |
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 24, 2022 7:55:13 GMT -5
I suppose another angle on this is . . . . . why would ANY school make any offer to a recruit who has already publicly accepted an offer elsewhere, even if verbally. Those coaches aren't 17/18 year old kids, they are adults who should have some values and not be tempting a kid away from his commitment - especially not even a matching offer (i.e. a scholarship in hand vs a possible walk on role).
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Post by hiltonheadcrusader on Aug 24, 2022 7:58:10 GMT -5
I suppose another angle on this is . . . . . why would ANY school make any offer to a recruit who has already publicly accepted an offer elsewhere, even if verbally. Those coaches aren't 17/18 year old kids, they are adults who should have some values and not be tempting a kid away from his commitment - especially not even a matching offer (i.e. a scholarship in hand vs a possible walk on role). It happens all the time. Doesn't make it good or right, but fact remains.......verbal commitments are worth the paper they are written on. |
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 24, 2022 7:59:29 GMT -5
Agree. And so I repeat:
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Post by hchoops on Aug 24, 2022 7:59:56 GMT -5
You are expecting ethical behavior in big time college football.
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 24, 2022 8:05:12 GMT -5
I guess my point I was trying to make is, why do we criticize (me included) a 17/18 year old kid who's verballed to Holy Cross and posts a PWO offer (and no indication he's even considering accepting it) when adults, who should have at least a minimal set of ethics, makes the offer in the first place. I don't care if its Penn State or BC, or The Ohio State University. It's despicable. It's not even a schollie offer.
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Post by hcpride on Aug 24, 2022 8:33:57 GMT -5
A commit posting about new offers while verbally committed to another school is not something fans generally appreciate IMHO. (Of course a verbal commit has the freedom to post all sorts of stuff and youngsters /oldsters don’t always think before posting.)
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