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Post by efg72 on Jan 24, 2023 13:47:09 GMT -5
Do we need two more DBs or will one get the job done? I hate to see so many in one class unless it is absolutely required. Agree another DE is needed and probably another OL
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Post by midwestsader05 on Jan 24, 2023 14:01:35 GMT -5
The math is this: We graduate 8 DBs. An additional 2 missed all of last season due to injury. Either or both of them could fall off the roster or be on the team in name only. We also play with 5 or even 6 on the field on almost every snap.
So far with class you have 5 (Jones, Comestro, Smith, Thompson, Wood). Carlo Croc might make 6 but he also might be an OLB. So yes, I would say you need 2 more. And a CB preferably.
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Post by efg72 on Jan 24, 2023 14:05:38 GMT -5
Thanks
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Post by breezy on Jan 24, 2023 14:10:44 GMT -5
I think midwest is more attuned to the situation than I am and I appreciate his analysis.
I also think we need another DE and I am hoping that we can land Chigozie Ogi-Evans.
I think we have likely filled our quota regarding OL.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Jan 24, 2023 14:29:44 GMT -5
Thanks Breezy also for all your work. As for Chig (COE), you and I don’t need a math degree to understand the developments and current state of his recruitment over the past month.
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Post by joutsHC77 on Jan 24, 2023 15:06:56 GMT -5
Any on the roster that HC can position switch in order to fill our needs? Lots of good athletes on the roster can multitask a la Lockbaum perhaps.
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Post by hcnj on Jan 24, 2023 19:41:16 GMT -5
The math is this: We graduate 8 DBs. An additional 2 missed all of last season due to injury. Either or both of them could fall off the roster or be on the team in name only. We also play with 5 or even 6 on the field on almost every snap. So far with class you have 5 (Jones, Comestro, Smith, Thompson, Wood). Carlo Croc might make 6 but he also might be an OLB. So yes, I would say you need 2 more. And a CB preferably. Maybe one really good CB is enough. I'm hoping that with the addition of this class and another next year that we won't need to play so many "flood" coverages and so many DB's. I also think that we'll need Comestro at CB, other than Jones aren't all the others safeties? |
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Post by midwestsader05 on Jan 24, 2023 20:44:48 GMT -5
Agree NJ. If we don’t land a big time CB this weekend than Comestro will likely have to play CB. I love him ideally at FS or WS but he started at CB his junior year against very good competition. Thompson is also a CB but Smith, Wood and potentially Crocetti are all 100% safeties.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Jan 24, 2023 20:51:10 GMT -5
Any on the roster that HC can position switch in order to fill our needs? Lots of good athletes on the roster can multitask a la Lockbaum perhaps. Purdy switched from DB to RB around Spring 21’. But I don’t think we would move him back cause then the RB room would get very thin. |
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Post by HC92 on Jan 24, 2023 22:40:39 GMT -5
Probably not the right thread but heard Pesansky’s younger brother, Peter, is terrific- 6’4-270 DL class of 2024 |
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Post by efg72 on Jan 24, 2023 22:52:53 GMT -5
He has picked up a number of offers from the P5 school so far
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 25, 2023 6:57:55 GMT -5
So, this is just an interesting side note then, not about an HC recruit?
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Post by efg72 on Jan 25, 2023 8:02:02 GMT -5
Correct
When posted I said it was the wrong thread but as a one off not worthy of its own
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Post by hcnj on Jan 25, 2023 12:36:55 GMT -5
Agree NJ. If we don’t land a big time CB this weekend than Comestro will likely have to play CB. I love him ideally at FS or WS but he started at CB his junior year against very good competition. Thompson is also a CB but Smith, Wood and potentially Crocetti are all 100% safeties. Thanks '05, I think I had Thompson and maybe Santee mixed up. Both play a few positions but Thompson was a CB and I think Santee was a safety or LB projected. |
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Post by hc2020 on Jan 25, 2023 14:12:29 GMT -5
Any on the roster that HC can position switch in order to fill our needs? Lots of good athletes on the roster can multitask a la Lockbaum perhaps. Purdy switched from DB to RB around Spring 21’. But I don’t think we would move him back cause then the RB room would get very thin. Agreed. They aren’t moving him, especially as a 5th year player. I’ve heard the staff is very comfortable with the stable of RBs they have on the roster presently. It will be an interesting spring at which time they all should get a closer look. |
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Post by HC92 on Jan 25, 2023 18:55:48 GMT -5
Fuller is really good and should have a big breakout in 2023. Lots of other quality guys including Purdy, Slade and Forrest (assuming he’s coming back).
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Post by dharry13 on Jan 25, 2023 19:27:52 GMT -5
Clerveaux is also essentially a Soph age wise and has a solid build.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Jan 26, 2023 8:41:30 GMT -5
Agree NJ. If we don’t land a big time CB this weekend than Comestro will likely have to play CB. I love him ideally at FS or WS but he started at CB his junior year against very good competition. Thompson is also a CB but Smith, Wood and potentially Crocetti are all 100% safeties. Thanks '05, I think I had Thompson and maybe Santee mixed up. Both play a few positions but Thompson was a CB and I think Santee was a safety or LB projected. Santee will be in the LB room. Personally, I’m very curious what happens with Dansdill. He might already be making the move to DE with that size (6’4 235)but if we don’t get another DE this weekend I think the odds are near 100% he plays edge rush/weak end in a 4 man front. Carlo Croc is now the other to watch. Will he start in the Safety room or LB room? To me, he’s a SS in a 4-2-5 base but potentially an OLB in a 3 LB scheme (3-3-5) OR in passing down situations. |
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Post by newadvisor on Jan 26, 2023 22:01:19 GMT -5
Thanks '05, I think I had Thompson and maybe Santee mixed up. Both play a few positions but Thompson was a CB and I think Santee was a safety or LB projected. Santee will be in the LB room. Personally, I’m very curious what happens with Dansdill. He might already be making the move to DE with that size (6’4 235)but if we don’t get another DE this weekend I think the odds are near 100% he plays edge rush/weak end in a 4 man front. Carlo Croc is now the other to watch. Will he start in the Safety room or LB room? To me, he’s a SS in a 4-2-5 base but potentially an OLB in a 3 LB scheme (3-3-5) OR in passing down situations. Dansdill, is going to be a great DE. He can either put a hand in the ground or come off the edge standing up. In a 4-2-5 his body is built to rush the passer, put a few more pounds on him he could be scary early. |
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Post by HC92 on Jan 26, 2023 22:33:14 GMT -5
Do those in the know think Boobie will play a big role on the D-line this coming season?
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Post by dharry13 on Jan 26, 2023 23:12:30 GMT -5
I think he will play a role. That chance increases if they play a 4 man front. Which I think they will.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Jan 27, 2023 8:22:03 GMT -5
Agree on Boobie (and the 4 man front) in that a minimum 3rd DT will see meaningful snaps in that rotation. Much like BV did at DE last year and Reich the season before in rotation with Benton and Kuz. You’d have to figure that Springer and Williams would be the two 1s coming back at DT so Boobie will likely be competing with Dyer and Danolds for the #3 DT spot.
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Post by midwestsader05 on Jan 27, 2023 8:31:28 GMT -5
Santee will be in the LB room. Personally, I’m very curious what happens with Dansdill. He might already be making the move to DE with that size (6’4 235)but if we don’t get another DE this weekend I think the odds are near 100% he plays edge rush/weak end in a 4 man front. Carlo Croc is now the other to watch. Will he start in the Safety room or LB room? To me, he’s a SS in a 4-2-5 base but potentially an OLB in a 3 LB scheme (3-3-5) OR in passing down situations. Dansdill, is going to be a great DE. He can either put a hand in the ground or come off the edge standing up. In a 4-2-5 his body is built to rush the passer, put a few more pounds on him he could be scary early. I was thinking the same thing newadvisor. From personal experience at HC, moving from a 2 point edge rush to an every down DE in 3 point is extremely difficult and takes about a year to really get acclimated. My hope is that with Dansdill’s strength, speed and athleticism he could provide pressure from a 2 point in 3rd and long type situations as soon as this year. I’d love to see him at ~250 by fall 24’ if/when he makes the full transition to an every down DE. Edit: My first post said Ross, mean’t to say Dansdill*. Hopefully Ross near 100% recovered from his ACL injury come spring ball. Full contact reps probably still limited though just to play it safe cause he will need a big summer to get ready physically to move into a potential starting role at DE opposite BV. |
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Post by breezy on Jan 27, 2023 11:05:27 GMT -5
By my math --
21 signings during the December signing period.
22 -- Sean Woods expected to sign next week.
23 -- Wood (Transfer)
24 -- Castro (Transfer)
25 -- Rosenberg
26 -- Hopkins
27 -- Crocetti
How many roster spots are left? I figure it can't be more than 2 or perhaps 3 at the most. Am I wrong?
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Post by efg72 on Jan 27, 2023 11:14:15 GMT -5
Dansdill, is going to be a great DE. He can either put a hand in the ground or come off the edge standing up. In a 4-2-5 his body is built to rush the passer, put a few more pounds on him he could be scary early. I was thinking the same thing newadvisor. From personal experience at HC, moving from a 2 point edge rush to an every down DE in 3 point is extremely difficult and takes about a year to really get acclimated. My hope is that with Dansdill’s strength, speed and athleticism he could provide pressure from a 2 point in 3rd and long type situations as soon as this year. I’d love to see him at ~250 by fall 24’ if/when he makes the full transition to an every down DE. Edit: My first post said Ross, mean’t to say Dansdill*. Hopefully Ross near 100% recovered from his ACL injury come spring ball. Full contact reps probably still limited though just to play it safe cause he will need a big summer to get ready physically to move into a potential starting role at DE opposite BV. Where does Robinson fit or is he a year or two away? |
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