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Post by cmo on Oct 10, 2022 15:39:04 GMT -5
Demorat gets the Demorat OPoW Conway gets the Fordham DPoW Sluka, Bolden and Haskins get the HM crumbs from the Fordham table I think this is a good thing |
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Post by cmo on Oct 10, 2022 15:45:13 GMT -5
Coaches and players seem to love it. For a lot of Worcester people, this is the only HC game they go to (in any sport.) …. But more and more are planning on going to Fitton for the Fordham game. Their first trip to fitton since the night games vs UMass and unh (and some before that.) This game keeps HC in Worcester’s consciousness. Someone called it “Worcester’s Biggest Cocktail Party.” We need t-shirts with that on it next year. Keep a game at PP every year. |
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Post by hcpride on Oct 10, 2022 15:47:21 GMT -5
Lets’s hold off on the Rams conversation until After Laffy Time to find ways to put another 50 on the board Then go to the next game We might be down a spot in the polls by getting next week off as others win and move up Yes. And in a couple of very recent polls (Athlon, etc) we moved up only because Delaware moved down. The 57-0 defeat of hapless Bucknell didn’t seem to help us. I’d imagine our games w/Laffy, GU, and Lehigh will be similarly unhelpful (50+ margins and otherwise). |
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Post by joutsHC77 on Oct 10, 2022 16:02:43 GMT -5
Polls don’t mean diddley squat. Winning in the playoffs counts.
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Post by efg72 on Oct 10, 2022 16:07:54 GMT -5
Polls do help recruiting
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Post by hc87 on Oct 10, 2022 16:21:15 GMT -5
"Having" to win by 40-50 points versus Lafayette, Lehigh and GTown to keep pace in the FCS polls leaves a bad taste in my mouth....just seems like bad form imo...seriously, what's the point of this football league if we're expected to win by such margins???
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 10, 2022 16:24:35 GMT -5
The polls will change after Saturday. The Jackrabbits visit NDSU.
It took four losses to move Missouri State out of the top 25.
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Post by hc89 on Oct 10, 2022 16:29:15 GMT -5
What would it say about Holy Cross (albeit HC playing on a date during Fall break) if Assumption's attendance was 8,000? In my opinion, absolutely nothing… |
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Post by efg72 on Oct 10, 2022 16:29:40 GMT -5
"Having" to win by 40-50 points versus Lafayette, Lehigh and GTown to keep pace in the FCS polls leaves a bad taste in my mouth....just seems like bad form imo...seriously, what's the point of this football league if we're expected to win by such margins??? Makes the case for looking at future options As the NCAA conference setup continues to evolve we need to have some plan so when the music stops we have the best seat for our great school. Could be the PL, CAA, or a variety of other options The PL and the other member schools need to do the same |
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Post by hc87 on Oct 10, 2022 16:33:47 GMT -5
"Having" to win by 40-50 points versus Lafayette, Lehigh and GTown to keep pace in the FCS polls leaves a bad taste in my mouth....just seems like bad form imo...seriously, what's the point of this football league if we're expected to win by such margins??? Makes the case for looking at future options As the NCAA conference setup continues to evolve we need to have some plan so when the music stops we have the best seat for our great school. Could be the PL, CAA, or a variety of other options I hear ya....but if the game plan for Lafayette is not only to beat the Pards but beat them badly i.e. leaving starters in (as we did yesterday) well after the game has been decided, to run up the score....I'm starting tio have a problem with that. Your mileage may vary. |
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 10, 2022 16:35:24 GMT -5
"Having" to win by 40-50 points versus Lafayette, Lehigh and GTown to keep pace in the FCS polls leaves a bad taste in my mouth....just seems like bad form imo...seriously, what's the point of this football league if we're expected to win by such margins??? HC's position in the polls will crystallize after the Fordham game, assuming a HC victory. Margin of victory won't move the needle much after that. An undefeated HC is likely to draw a first round bye. In the current coaches poll, every FCS playoff school below HC, ranked #8, has at least one loss. |
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Post by hc89 on Oct 10, 2022 16:37:06 GMT -5
This game keeps HC in Worcester’s consciousness. Someone called it “Worcester’s Biggest Cocktail Party.” We need t-shirts with that on it next year. Keep a game at PP every year. Agree 100%. It’s a really fun experience for those who choose to attend. Does it really matter so much what it means to those that choose not to go? Are there really that many people who choose not to go because the game is at PP instead of Fitton? I suspect very, very few, if any at all. |
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Oct 10, 2022 16:37:19 GMT -5
Makes the case for looking at future options As the NCAA conference setup continues to evolve we need to have some plan so when the music stops we have the best seat for our great school. Could be the PL, CAA, or a variety of other options I hear ya....but if the game plan for Lafayette is not only to beat the Pards but beat them badly i.e. leaving starters in (as we did yesterday) well after the game has been decided, to run up the score....I'm starting tio have a problem with that. Your mileage may vary. ihoop, do you believe Duffner did this at all? Knowing that there was no postseason for HC, beating teams by 40+ was how they'd get recognized...and on a more personal level to him, how he would move up the coaching ladder. |
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Post by hc87 on Oct 10, 2022 16:41:40 GMT -5
I hear ya....but if the game plan for Lafayette is not only to beat the Pards but beat them badly i.e. leaving starters in (as we did yesterday) well after the game has been decided, to run up the score....I'm starting tio have a problem with that. Your mileage may vary. ihoop, do you believe Duffner did this at all? Knowing that there was no postseason for HC, beating teams by 40+ was how they'd get recognized...and on a more personal level to him, how he would move up the coaching ladder. He absolutely did....and I love Duff to this day but he caught some much deserved criticism (imo) in some quarters for having done so. |
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Post by hcpride on Oct 10, 2022 16:46:38 GMT -5
Polls don’t mean diddley squat. Winning in the playoffs counts. They don’t help for seeding? |
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Post by hc87 on Oct 10, 2022 16:49:37 GMT -5
Believe me, winning by how much is a tremendous problem to have for our program right now....it just didn't sit right for me that Sluka and many other starters played a significant amount in the 2nd H yesterday after being up 37-0 at halftime.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Oct 10, 2022 16:51:09 GMT -5
Lets’s hold off on the Rams conversation until After Laffy Time to find ways to put another 50 on the board Then go to the next game We might be down a spot in the polls by getting next week off as others win and move up Yes. And in a couple of very recent polls (Athlon, etc) we moved up only because Delaware moved down. The 57-0 defeat of hapless Bucknell didn’t seem to help us. I’d imagine our games w/Laffy, GU, and Lehigh will be similarly unhelpful (50+ margins and otherwise). Were ranked #8. Only so far you're going to continue to rise by thumping bad teams. Remember, the teams ranked ahead of us are winning too. Keeping our ones healthy should be the priority ahead of running up the score IMO. We don't need it for the rankings and Chesney doesn't need it to continue to have personal career options open. |
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Post by hcpride on Oct 10, 2022 16:51:42 GMT -5
"Having" to win by 40-50 points versus Lafayette, Lehigh and GTown to keep pace in the FCS polls leaves a bad taste in my mouth....just seems like bad form imo...seriously, what's the point of this football league if we're expected to win by such margins??? No, margin against the hapless PL teams is essentially meaningless at this point as we see in the most recent polls. It is also true there is an art and a science BOTH squads need to adopt to keep the margin 30-ish in mismatches like Bucknell, etc. |
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Oct 10, 2022 16:52:07 GMT -5
ihoop, do you believe Duffner did this at all? Knowing that there was no postseason for HC, beating teams by 40+ was how they'd get recognized...and on a more personal level to him, how he would move up the coaching ladder. He absolutely did....and I love Duff to this day but he caught some much deserved criticism (imo) in some quarters for having done so. Might explain what happened on October 2, 1993 then -- Penn St 70, Maryland 7 Maybe Joe Paterno took exception to some of the drubbings HC gave to his alma mater (Brown) when Duffner was head coach. |
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Post by hc87 on Oct 10, 2022 16:52:57 GMT -5
He absolutely did....and I love Duff to this day but he caught some much deserved criticism (imo) in some quarters for having done so. Might explain what happened on October 2, 1993 then -- Penn St 70, Maryland 7 Maybe Joe Paterno took exception to some of the drubbings HC gave to his alma mater (Brown) when Duffner was head coach. It may well have actually.... |
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Oct 10, 2022 16:55:28 GMT -5
Believe me, winning by how much is a tremendous problem to have for our program right now....it just didn't sit right for me that Sluka and many other starters played a significant amount in the 2nd H yesterday after being up 37-0 at halftime. Sluka and many other key starters were pulled following our second drive of the 3rd quarter (beginning at 4:50). Not like they touched the field in the 4th quarter at all, so they played about 10-12 minutes of the second half. Don't think that is significant. |
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Post by hchoops on Oct 10, 2022 16:57:39 GMT -5
This game keeps HC in Worcester’s consciousness. Someone called it “Worcester’s Biggest Cocktail Party.” We need t-shirts with that on it next year. Keep a game at PP every year. Agree 100%. It’s a really fun experience for those who choose to attend. Does it really matter so much what it means to those that choose not to go? Are there really that many people who choose not to go because the game is at PP instead of Fitton? I suspect very, very few, if any at all. I know 2 |
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Post by hc87 on Oct 10, 2022 16:57:43 GMT -5
Believe me, winning by how much is a tremendous problem to have for our program right now....it just didn't sit right for me that Sluka and many other starters played a significant amount in the 2nd H yesterday after being up 37-0 at halftime. Sluka and many other key starters were pulled following our second drive of the 3rd quarter (beginning at 4:50). Not like they touched the field in the 4th quarter at all, so they played about 10-12 minutes of the second half. Don't think that is significant. Not one HC starter on either side of the field should have stepped on the playing field at PP yday in the 2nd H....our 2nd string guys are bettah than Bucknell's starters mostly. |
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Oct 10, 2022 16:58:51 GMT -5
"Having" to win by 40-50 points versus Lafayette, Lehigh and GTown to keep pace in the FCS polls leaves a bad taste in my mouth....just seems like bad form imo...seriously, what's the point of this football league if we're expected to win by such margins??? HC's position in the polls will crystallize after the Fordham game, assuming a HC victory. Margin of victory won't move the needle much after that. An undefeated HC is likely to draw a first round bye. In the current coaches poll, every FCS playoff school below HC, ranked #8, has at least one loss. Totally agree. Beat Fordham, hold serve against remainder of schedule and we'll absolutely be a seed at 11-0 and whats looking right now like a strong FBS win. Colgate got a seed in 2018 at 10-1 with a competitive loss to a good Army squad. 10-1 with a loss to Fordham IMO we're still a lock for the playoffs and likely we'd be at home for the out-bracket round. 9-2 with a loss to Fordham and say an upset loss to Bryant to end the season, I think we're a still a "last four in" type of team. |
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Post by hcpride on Oct 10, 2022 17:01:53 GMT -5
I don’t think there is any doubt our second team would also thump Bucknell.
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