|
Monmouth
Nov 27, 2016 14:30:11 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 27, 2016 14:30:11 GMT -5
Ant was so critical in hitting some big threes down the stretch, but three major blunders hurt us: 1) five second count, 2) Trying to draw the charge against Seaborn. Just play defense. Instead, it's a three point play. 3) Turning the ball over when we were down 78-77. What five second count? The inbounds play drawn up by the coach where most of the time was taken on the pass across the baseline that didn't work? If it's not there, the initial inbound passer has the option to pass across the baseline or into the court of play. He also could have used a timeout.
|
|
|
Post by jflare on Nov 27, 2016 14:40:51 GMT -5
Team had no clue in the last 18 seconds of what to do. Out coached
|
|
|
Post by sarasota on Nov 27, 2016 14:58:03 GMT -5
HEARTBREAK. But many positives. We were playing against a top team. Have to work on defending the back end of the 1-3-1. Brady exposed our weakness there. Have to work on inbounding under high pressure. We can't live by the three. We are slowly getting adept at the PO. In the last minute, Coach Scott was actively coaching in the huddles. WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT IF WERE A MEMBER OF THE MAAC LIKE MONMOUTH.
|
|
|
Post by sarasota on Nov 27, 2016 15:00:30 GMT -5
SOV- ANT did all those things!
|
|
|
Post by HC1843 on Nov 27, 2016 15:22:50 GMT -5
Team had no clue in the last 18 seconds of what to do. Out coached So silly. A failure to execute is not being outcoached. The rest of the game also belies your comment.
|
|
|
Monmouth
Nov 27, 2016 15:24:06 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by HC1843 on Nov 27, 2016 15:24:06 GMT -5
HEARTBREAK. But many positives. We were playing against a top team. Have to work on defending the back end of the 1-3-1. Brady exposed our weakness there. Have to work on inbounding under high pressure. We can't live by the three. We are slowly getting adept at the PO. In the last minute, Coach Scott was actively coaching in the huddles. WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT IF WERE A MEMBER OF THE MAAC LIKE MONMOUTH.Agree with most of this, just not the MAAC affiliation.
|
|
|
Monmouth
Nov 27, 2016 15:25:26 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Xmassader on Nov 27, 2016 15:25:26 GMT -5
Away from the computer during the game but checked on the score @1:40pm and saw we were ahead 67-64. Checked again @2:10 and saw we lost 80-77 then finally was able to review the play-by-play and saw we were up 6 with 56 seconds to go and up 5 with 18 seconds to go and lost in regulation time---virtually impossible but an ending sadly reminiscent of the home loss to Loyola of Chicago in CSK's only year at the helm. Hopefully, we rebound vs. Albany this week and develop a strategy for breaking the press, particularly in the last few minutes of a game. My initial thoughts, after reviewing the play-by-play and reading the board accounts is that the inbound set up may not have been optimal. Seems as if you might want one of the taller players (Champion, Charles, Alexander or Husek) handling the throw in with the 2 best ball handlers, guys able to get open and FT shooters (Thompson and Benzan) on the floor. Hard for me to reach a conclusion at this point without seeing the archived version of the game.
|
|
|
Post by hcgrad94 on Nov 27, 2016 15:30:08 GMT -5
Team had no clue in the last 18 seconds of what to do. Out coached We just went toe-to-toe with the best team we will see at the Hart Center this year, a team dominated by seniors who have won alot of games the last few years. We were a 20-loss team a year ago. We are still a work in progress but I for one saw great growth for the last week alone. Obviously we have some things to clean up but with our coaching staff I am confident those things will happen. Feel free to be Joe negative but it is November and we are getting better.
|
|
|
Monmouth
Nov 27, 2016 15:30:30 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by cfrivals on Nov 27, 2016 15:30:30 GMT -5
Just got home from game. Tough loss, we should have won this plain and simple. There are positives to take out of the game, but you have to learn how to beat top teams! We have not been able to beat top level teams for a long time . You want respect, you need to do that! Offense looked crisp and shooters did well. Still need MA to have a breakout game, and need consistency from RC. If this team doesn't come out and win 3 or 4 in a row, than this game was not a true measure of where we are. Coaching in last minute was dreadful. PG inbounding to PG major boo-boo and to do it three times in a row, just plain stupidity! Hopefully this will be addressed in practice tomorrow and won't happen again. All in all was a fun game.
|
|
|
Post by jflare on Nov 27, 2016 15:32:16 GMT -5
Sorry but that would be Jack negative to you fella!!
|
|
|
Monmouth
Nov 27, 2016 15:32:38 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by hcgrad94 on Nov 27, 2016 15:32:38 GMT -5
HEARTBREAK. But many positives. We were playing against a top team. Have to work on defending the back end of the 1-3-1. Brady exposed our weakness there. Have to work on inbounding under high pressure. We can't live by the three. We are slowly getting adept at the PO. In the last minute, Coach Scott was actively coaching in the huddles. WOULDN'T IT BE GREAT IF WERE A MEMBER OF THE MAAC LIKE MONMOUTH.The MAAC, a league with two or three schools that are teetering on the edge of insolvency? Great sign me up.
|
|
|
Post by WorcesterGray on Nov 27, 2016 15:40:19 GMT -5
Back from the game. Bad ending, but several positives. The match-up zone was pretty good once again, though Monmouth shot 50%, and we had trouble whenever they got it inside to Brady, and when the Hawks could get out and run (11-0 fast break points). Only saw the 1-3-1 (with Champion on the baseline) on one possession, but others may have seen differently. . . . They pressured us on and off throughout the game, thought we handled it well for 39+ minutes . . . Offense looks very fluid, light years ahead of where it was during most of last year - several layups off back-doors and give-and-gos, especially in the first half, which had Monmouth cheating inside, giving our guys some open shooting space behind the arc.
Individually, great to see Ant come up big with his shot, KC (12 points, 7 boards, 8 assists) and Malachi (13 points, 5 bounds, 5 assists) rounding into shape, and Benzan continuing to do well. In one sequence midway through the 2nd half, PB appeared trapped by two defenders in backcourt, but found KC with a long pass to the opposite corner of front court - Pat then raced down to get a short pass back from Karl, brought it back to the top of the circle, then ran a give-and-go with MA for an easy bucket. Non-stop energy and smarts from one end of the court to the other on that play - very impressive.
|
|
|
Post by rgs318 on Nov 27, 2016 15:41:23 GMT -5
Last 8ish minutes were all AT and Malachi putting the team on their back, and then a lucky bailout 3 by Charles. Simply relying on individual play and making a bunch of 3'a (what we did today) is a losing formula in the long run. Sean Kearney and Milan Brown would be ripped apart for ending a game like that. Thank goodness neither of them was there. It would not have been close. Actually, it was more the players who were actually in the game who let this get away...but that is a minor point.
|
|
|
Post by rgs318 on Nov 27, 2016 15:42:26 GMT -5
Team had no clue in the last 18 seconds of what to do. Out coached Clearly it was the coach who make AT slip and fall when we had the ball at the end. Really?
|
|
|
Post by HC1843 on Nov 27, 2016 15:50:37 GMT -5
Last 8ish minutes were all AT and Malachi putting the team on their back, and then a lucky bailout 3 by Charles. Simply relying on individual play and making a bunch of 3'a (what we did today) is a losing formula in the long run. Sean Kearney and Milan Brown would be ripped apart for ending a game like that. Thank goodness neither of them was there. It would not have been close. Actually, it was more the players who were actually in the game who let this get away...but that is a minor point. _________________________________________ Those three point plays were primarily set plays within the confines of the offense not last second heaves. Sean and Milan were terrible coaches. That is what they got ripped for. if you do not see the difference in just two short years, you are blind.
|
|
|
Monmouth
Nov 27, 2016 15:55:31 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by ncaam on Nov 27, 2016 15:55:31 GMT -5
Just pulling into the driveway after the game. Have the hose hooked up to the exhaust, car filling with smoke. Before I die, however, someone tell me if that pass out of bounds from Anthony to Pat looked like it had never been practiced. They did not have enough spacing to make it effective. Worst loss since that Loyola of Chicago game. But like another poster has said these games are meaningless, it's the conference that counts. Yeah right.
|
|
|
Post by HC1843 on Nov 27, 2016 16:00:49 GMT -5
Just pulling into the driveway after the game. Have the hose hooked up to the exhaust, car filling with smoke. Before I die, however, someone tell me if that pass out of bounds from Anthony to Pat looked like it had never been practiced. They did not have enough spacing to make it effective. Worst loss since that Loyola of Chicago game. But like another poster has said these games are meaningless, it's the conference that counts. Yeah right. It was a great game that had many positives. Sure it sucks we lost, but we were in it until the end. Good luck in the afterlife.
|
|
|
Post by hchoops on Nov 27, 2016 16:01:29 GMT -5
It appears that CBC believes that AT is the best inbounder. I will take his opinion.
|
|
|
Post by WorcesterGray on Nov 27, 2016 16:05:23 GMT -5
Aside from the in-bounding problems at the end, KC made a critical mistake fouling Sarr on the layup, when we were up 77-72 with 13 seconds left. Instead of being up by three and giving them less time to set up the press, Sarr's free throw made it a two-point game and gave them a tic or two extra to set defensively.
Puzzled that we did seem committed to going PG to PG on the in-bounds at the end - Ant had Malachi as a good option on one of the last couple possessions but chose no to pass to him.
|
|
|
Post by hchoops on Nov 27, 2016 16:18:22 GMT -5
At that point MA was covered by a quick defender, maybe Sarr, not Brady, against whom MA had received some of the previous inbound passes.
|
|
|
Post by ncaam on Nov 27, 2016 16:35:03 GMT -5
Where in the world is TC? Not at the game for sure.
|
|
|
Monmouth
Nov 27, 2016 16:58:46 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by cfrivals on Nov 27, 2016 16:58:46 GMT -5
Carm is a great coach and he is an upgrade from what we had, but the end of this game he needed to make adjustments and he didn't respond and close this game out. I am sure he saw his mistakes and I doubt they would happen again in the same situation
|
|
|
Post by timholycross on Nov 27, 2016 17:06:38 GMT -5
Don't underestimate giving up a 3 ball when they were up 6 too.
|
|
|
Post by ncaam on Nov 27, 2016 17:30:07 GMT -5
Next 5 of 6 on the road
What did Coach Carmody have to say about the breakdowns at the end of the game?
|
|
|
Monmouth
Nov 27, 2016 17:31:25 GMT -5
via mobile
Post by Sons of Vaval on Nov 27, 2016 17:31:25 GMT -5
You could probably point to six or seven different instances in that final minute where if we executed just one or two of them, we win.
However, we also were pretty damn lucky with that heave from Charles dropping. Despite the loss, I feel much better about where we currently are, versus where we were after UMass.
|
|