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Post by hcpride on Dec 24, 2022 11:13:36 GMT -5
While I think any ACC game is a mistake for us (Florida State or BC or otherwise) the rest of next year’s schedule may resemble this year’s - and that worked out well for us.
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Post by football44 on Dec 24, 2022 12:06:51 GMT -5
While I think any ACC game is a mistake for us (Florida State or BC or otherwise) the rest of next year’s schedule may resembles this year’s - and that worked out well for us. Disagree HC pride. BC is an old rivalry game that I’m sure that everyone on this board can’t wait to show up in ‘23 at Alumni Stadium. Florida State No, BC yes! Coach Harley don’t let the Crusaders come in beat your Eagles.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Dec 24, 2022 12:09:07 GMT -5
The 2023 schedule is lovely. Not one, but TWO opportunities to take down FBS competition. Including an intrastate P5 and a service academy on Veteran's Day. What more could you ask for? No doubt it will be a challenge, but if Holy Cross wins both games, they will not only be seeded, but seeded in the Top 4 as well. The BC game is an excellent opportunity for exposure. I also don't think there's a problem with playing Harvard and Yale. They're usually at the top of their conference and they're esteemed schools. If you wanted to argue that you should sub one of those teams for a top tier CAA opponent I could see it, but the counter-argument is that HC already plays two FBS teams this year, the schedule is plenty hard. One nugget that hasn't been addressed: Holy Cross is scheduled to start the season off with Merrimack before taking on BC in Week 2. I know Merrimack is surging in the NEC and BC just had a disastrous year, but still, going from playing D2 recruits to P5 recruits is a helluva turnaround early on in the year. Coach Chen will need to have em well-oiled and running from the get. Honestly looking forward to this game a great deal. Did bc get some P5 recruits? When did this happen?😋
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 24, 2022 12:25:07 GMT -5
The 2023 schedule is lovely. Not one, but TWO opportunities to take down FBS competition. Including an intrastate P5 and a service academy on Veteran's Day. What more could you ask for? No doubt it will be a challenge, but if Holy Cross wins both games, they will not only be seeded, but seeded in the Top 4 as well. The BC game is an excellent opportunity for exposure. I also don't think there's a problem with playing Harvard and Yale. They're usually at the top of their conference and they're esteemed schools. If you wanted to argue that you should sub one of those teams for a top tier CAA opponent I could see it, but the counter-argument is that HC already plays two FBS teams this year, the schedule is plenty hard. One nugget that hasn't been addressed: Holy Cross is scheduled to start the season off with Merrimack before taking on BC in Week 2. I know Merrimack is surging in the NEC and BC just had a disastrous year, but still, going from playing D2 recruits to P5 recruits is a helluva turnaround early on in the year. Coach Chen will need to have em well-oiled and running from the get. Honestly looking forward to this game a great deal. Nice to read outside confirmation that the schedule is as good as it looks through purple tinted lenses. Did you ever think you would see four Catholic D-1 FB teams in Massachusetts?
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Post by hcpride on Dec 24, 2022 13:09:10 GMT -5
While I think any ACC game is a mistake for us (Florida State or BC or otherwise) the rest of next year’s schedule may resembles this year’s - and that worked out well for us. Disagree HC pride. BC is an old rivalry game that I’m sure that everyone on this board can’t wait to show up in ‘23 at Alumni Stadium. Florida State No, BC yes! Coach Harley don’t let the Crusaders come in beat your Eagles. LOL. I’m aware we used to play them regularly. I attended the last few in the early 80’s and therefore I’m also very aware why we wisely stopped (thank goodness) the series. At the same time I realize some fellow HC alums might have somehow enjoyed our most recent (62-14) matchup with BC. Others, including myself, didn’t see a reason to play them. Football rivals forty years ago or not.
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Post by hchoops on Dec 24, 2022 13:50:28 GMT -5
Welcome necfb. For D2 players, Merrimack (8-3, 6-1)was not an easy game to open this season. Probably will be competitive again. Post often.
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Post by hchoops on Dec 24, 2022 14:01:08 GMT -5
Disagree HC pride. BC is an old rivalry game that I’m sure that everyone on this board can’t wait to show up in ‘23 at Alumni Stadium. Florida State No, BC yes! Coach Harley don’t let the Crusaders come in beat your Eagles. LOL. I’m aware we used to play them regularly. I attended the last few in the early 80’s and therefore I’m also very aware why we wisely stopped (thank goodness) the series. At the same time I realize some fellow HC alums might have somehow enjoyed our most recent (62-14) matchup with BC. Others, including myself, didn’t see a reason to play them. Football rivals forty years ago or not. Some/many of us posters who support this BC game anticipate it and possible future contests as being competitive with Chesney as our coach. I realize that BC may not be down in the long run and that Chesney will not be here forever , but to play them in current circumstances is well worthwhile.
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Post by purplehaze on Dec 24, 2022 14:31:38 GMT -5
I think every HC football player should have the chance to play once vs BC - so to play every fourth year should be a goal
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Post by hcpride on Dec 24, 2022 14:40:53 GMT -5
I think every HC football player should have the chance to play once vs BC - so to play every fourth year should be a goal Why?
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Post by HC92 on Dec 24, 2022 14:41:46 GMT -5
I think every HC football player should have the chance to play once vs BC - so to play every fourth year should be a goal BC is a big challenge, no doubt. But I think we would have had a chance last year and will again have a chance next year. Whether that’s a 10% chance for the win or 25%, I’m not sure but we definitely have a chance. That will generally not be the case with a PL team playing an ACC team but it will be next year in Chestnut Hill.
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Post by timholycross on Dec 24, 2022 18:21:53 GMT -5
All I can say is at worst, BC will have to "earn" a blowout in 2023; unlike 2018 where they were actually pretty nice to us. 62 could easily have been 82.
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Post by efg72 on Dec 24, 2022 18:33:29 GMT -5
I think every HC football player should have the chance to play once vs BC - so to play every fourth year should be a goal BC is a big challenge, no doubt. But I think we would have had a chance last year and will again have a chance next year. Whether that’s a 10% chance for the win or 25%, I’m not sure but we definitely have a chance. That will generally not be the case with a PL team playing an ACC team but it will be next year in Chestnut Hill. Looking at the teams as of today and all of the potential match ups I say BC is 8 1/2 -10 point favorite Holy Cross wins by 5
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Post by purplehaze on Dec 24, 2022 18:51:15 GMT -5
Why BC ? Because it’s appealing to alums and many students Because many FCS teams schedule Power 5 games Because we should be an FCS power going forward Because it’s a nice check Because our league is weak and we need a high quality OOG
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Post by efg72 on Dec 24, 2022 19:16:42 GMT -5
I would get BC on the schedule 6 times per decade because it will keep us focused on excellence as an FCS team and the only NE team worth playing in the regular season
other ivies and New England teams are fine for one to three games every few seasons
we are in a league that preaches mediocrity in terms of commitment to winning so our regular OOC schedule needs teams searching for greatness/FCS titles
old relationships are just that OLD
if our goal is Frisco each year our schedule must get tougher
Wishing my very best Christmas wishes to all
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Post by mm67 on Dec 24, 2022 20:17:09 GMT -5
No offense. We're just rapping. IMHO Old or not old is not truly relevant. Scheduling to get the approval of others solely to improve rankings is a non-starter for me. The best matchups are those games which interest HC stakeholders - students, alums, local citizenry, etc. The 2023 schedule is excellent, no? Nothing wrong w/Army, BC, Harvard & Yale. In future years, UMass, UConn as well as NE IL & CAA teams such as but not limited to UNH & possibly Villanova & Delaware would generate interest. Possibly playing an occasional intersectional game might be fun. In the '60's HC played against theQuantico Marines, some of whom were HC grads.Glad those days are over but wish I could get those years back.
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Post by efg72 on Dec 24, 2022 21:06:32 GMT -5
You are probably right, but I look at it as the schedule preparing a team for the post season.
This is more of me tossing about options for debate
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Post by necfbfan on Dec 24, 2022 21:30:22 GMT -5
The 2023 schedule is lovely. Not one, but TWO opportunities to take down FBS competition. Including an intrastate P5 and a service academy on Veteran's Day. What more could you ask for? No doubt it will be a challenge, but if Holy Cross wins both games, they will not only be seeded, but seeded in the Top 4 as well. The BC game is an excellent opportunity for exposure. I also don't think there's a problem with playing Harvard and Yale. They're usually at the top of their conference and they're esteemed schools. If you wanted to argue that you should sub one of those teams for a top tier CAA opponent I could see it, but the counter-argument is that HC already plays two FBS teams this year, the schedule is plenty hard. One nugget that hasn't been addressed: Holy Cross is scheduled to start the season off with Merrimack before taking on BC in Week 2. I know Merrimack is surging in the NEC and BC just had a disastrous year, but still, going from playing D2 recruits to P5 recruits is a helluva turnaround early on in the year. Coach Chen will need to have em well-oiled and running from the get. Honestly looking forward to this game a great deal. Nice to read outside confirmation that the schedule is as good as it looks through purple tinted lenses. Did you ever think you would see four Catholic D-1 FB teams in Massachusetts? Never thought so, but I'm here for it! I kind of have an SEC mindset when it comes to this: The more programs in the region that prosper, the better for Northeast/New England cfb as a whole. Also, I've looked through this thread and read some comments about the BC game. Even some HC fans seem skeptical about your odds in this game. I watched 8-9 of BC's games this past season and have followed them (At some points more closely than others) throughout the Hafley era. Just my $.02 but I think it's a very winnable game for HC (As in if BC were favored by 10, I would not be comfortable betting them.) To be blunt, BC is very poorly coached at a lot of levels, and from what I've seen out of Sluka, he's probably gonna be the most dynamic offensive weapon on the field come September 9. Just because BC recruits 3-stars doesn't mean those guys are being developed or maximized better than their FCS brethren. Far from it... I understand the risk of losing a seed if you don't go 11-0, but the local recognition that would come with beating a (Beatable) intrastate P5 is too good to pass up for a program humming like HC is. It'll be an interesting day and potentially a live interview for Ches.
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Post by cmo on Dec 25, 2022 15:10:32 GMT -5
All I can say is at worst, BC will have to "earn" a blowout in 2023; unlike 2018 where they were actually pretty nice to us. 62 could easily have been 82. Let’s make sure BC players are watching that 2018 game. Could be 2nd half before they realize it’s not the same HC program.
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Post by HC92 on Dec 25, 2022 15:26:22 GMT -5
All I can say is at worst, BC will have to "earn" a blowout in 2023; unlike 2018 where they were actually pretty nice to us. 62 could easily have been 82. Let’s make sure BC players are watching that 2018 game. Could be 2nd half before they realize it’s not the same HC program. It’s BC. Might not realize until the next day.
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Post by hchoops on Dec 25, 2022 15:34:08 GMT -5
Let’s make sure BC players are watching that 2018 game. Could be 2nd half before they realize it’s not the same HC program. It’s BC. Might not realize until the next day. Or September 9.
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Post by efg72 on Dec 25, 2022 20:05:49 GMT -5
On Saturday afternoon, Harvard defensive back Alex Washington announced his intention to transfer to Boston College.
Washington recently graduated from Harvard after four years on the football team and comes to Boston College as a grad transfer. In his senior season, he earned first team All-Ivy League honors in 9 games. His stats from last season don’t jump off of the page (2 INTs, 5 passes defended, 57 tackles), but Hafley (and Ivy League media) must have seen enough from him to be held in high regard.
Hafley is a DB specialist and it’s clear in his recruiting. This is his third DB pick-up in the transfer portal so far, and many of his top high school recruits are often DBs. The expectation is that Washington can be coached up by Hafley and his staff in his final season of eligibility to become a valuable asset to the BC pass defense.
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Post by bfoley82 on Dec 26, 2022 19:56:05 GMT -5
On Saturday afternoon, Harvard defensive back Alex Washington announced his intention to transfer to Boston College. Washington recently graduated from Harvard after four years on the football team and comes to Boston College as a grad transfer. In his senior season, he earned first team All-Ivy League honors in 9 games. His stats from last season don’t jump off of the page (2 INTs, 5 passes defended, 57 tackles), but Hafley (and Ivy League media) must have seen enough from him to be held in high regard. Hafley is a DB specialist and it’s clear in his recruiting. This is his third DB pick-up in the transfer portal so far, and many of his top high school recruits are often DBs. The expectation is that Washington can be coached up by Hafley and his staff in his final season of eligibility to become a valuable asset to the BC pass defense. I saw a Columbia DE and QB go to Duke for their grad "years." It isn't really that unexpected anymore from the Ivy League to the ACC.
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Post by efg72 on Dec 28, 2022 14:27:52 GMT -5
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Post by efg72 on Dec 28, 2022 14:29:17 GMT -5
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Post by longsuffering on Dec 28, 2022 22:49:42 GMT -5
On Saturday afternoon, Harvard defensive back Alex Washington announced his intention to transfer to Boston College. Washington recently graduated from Harvard after four years on the football team and comes to Boston College as a grad transfer. In his senior season, he earned first team All-Ivy League honors in 9 games. His stats from last season don’t jump off of the page (2 INTs, 5 passes defended, 57 tackles), but Hafley (and Ivy League media) must have seen enough from him to be held in high regard. Hafley is a DB specialist and it’s clear in his recruiting. This is his third DB pick-up in the transfer portal so far, and many of his top high school recruits are often DBs. The expectation is that Washington can be coached up by Hafley and his staff in his final season of eligibility to become a valuable asset to the BC pass defense. Washington also brings first person knowledge of the HC offense into the BC "brain trust"
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