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Post by timholycross on Feb 22, 2023 8:57:33 GMT -5
I am not the one that called Mike Brey a lousy coach....The guy is responsible for 34 percent of the school's NCAA appearances in his 23 years as head coach. He also has a .637 winning percentage at ND. Without commenting on Brey as a coach, is it possible that the 34 percent in the last 23 years is partially a function of an expanded tournament?. Those Big East/ACC years basically had half the league going. Back when Vicens and Potter went dancing, the tournament was less than half the size it was today and most of the expansion is middle of the pack teams from major conferences.. Kentucky also has a similar percentage in that time frame. Probably not an uncommon stat Digger's tenure followed roughly the same trajectory. The difference was that Digger paid the price for ND thinking that the independent route would continue to work in basketball, which it would not. Most of the 80s and 90s (after Digger left) were not kind to Notre Dame basketball because of that. Brey got to coach in the Big East then the ACC. I too won't try to rate him as a coach, but he certainly was governed by a different set of parameters. In the long article about Brey's decline, I did see some mention "free flowing offense" (sic) that seemed to be what Sean Kearney came to Worcester w/the intent of doing.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 22, 2023 10:04:09 GMT -5
Like most at least competent coaches, Brey had good stretches when he recruited successfully And likewise lost when his recruiting lagged
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Post by bfoley82 on Feb 22, 2023 10:33:02 GMT -5
Like most at least competent coaches, Brey had good stretches when he recruited successfully And likewise lost when his recruiting lagged That is true with every coach though. If you don't have the talent, it is tough to win.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 22, 2023 10:44:54 GMT -5
Not every Some coaches have done more with less Shaheen Holloway at St.Peter’s last season For the high majors Tony Bennet and Jay Wright did more with less than their competition
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Post by cmo on Feb 22, 2023 12:47:55 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Feb 22, 2023 13:19:40 GMT -5
“With his name cleared…” Unfortunately true in some circles.
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Post by Tom on Feb 22, 2023 13:50:22 GMT -5
The NCAA didn't get the memo. Louisville's title has not been reinstated.
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Post by timholycross on Feb 22, 2023 13:56:00 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Feb 22, 2023 14:05:29 GMT -5
I was there with my son. Kevin Hamilton Sr. played. Jeff Ruland had signed with an agent earlier, Ronnie graciously greeted my young son in the locker room even after his final game. Such an admirable Crusader. The
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Post by DiMarz on Feb 22, 2023 20:43:46 GMT -5
I stumbled across an article on Catspause.com, in it, Rick Pitino was answering questions about what he wouod do after this season..He mentioned he had 3 offers for really good jobs after last season. But he has a $5 million buyout, and he says he not worth it...it goes on to say "Sources told CBS Sports that Pitino was referencing Maryland, which hired Kevin Willard, a former Iona coach, Holy Cross and Rhode Island also reached out to him"
I find that very interesting...Would HC really want Pitino?
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Post by A Clock Tower Purple on Feb 22, 2023 21:15:13 GMT -5
^
If the "source" considers HC and URI as "really good jobs" dismiss that source as clueless.
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Post by thecrossisback on Feb 22, 2023 21:33:57 GMT -5
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Post by HC92 on Feb 22, 2023 21:56:00 GMT -5
Anyone know anything about Carl Danzig, head coach at Scranton? Has won his D3 conference 7 of last 13 seasons. Seems to be a defensive guy. .690 career winning percentage at Scranton. Was an assistant under Flannery at Bucknell.
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Post by bison137 on Feb 22, 2023 22:23:10 GMT -5
Anyone know anything about Carl Danzig, head coach at Scranton? Has won his D3 conference 7 of last 13 seasons. Seems to be a defensive guy. .690 career winning percentage at Scranton. Was an assistant under Flannery at Bucknell. I think he’s a solid coach, but he has never recruited with scholarships. His dad was a Bucknell Hall of Fame center. He applied for the Bucknell job when Nathan Davis got it. Bucknell would’ve been far better off with Danzig. Was an assistant to Woollum and Flannery for 11 years (pre-scholarship) before going to Scranton. He is in his late 50s.
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Post by fillfittonfield on Feb 22, 2023 23:06:26 GMT -5
Holy Cross inquired about Pitino last season? If true, I think this is pretty big news. KH presumably made the inquiry. Surprised this isn’t being discussed more…
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Post by hchoops on Feb 22, 2023 23:19:47 GMT -5
Holy Cross inquired about Pitino last season? If true, I think this is pretty big news. KH presumably made the inquiry. Why “presumably” ? Pitino could have been contacted by anyone, even an alum.
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Post by longsuffering on Feb 22, 2023 23:21:47 GMT -5
Don't remember the exact wording but Kit has said "I'm all about winning". Of course what AD hasn't?
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Post by timholycross on Feb 22, 2023 23:46:26 GMT -5
If someone in authority contacted Rick at the end of 2021-22, that's dishonorable and I'm disappointed in them.
I'm sure whoever he talked to, it didn't take him long to figure out he'd be better off in New Rochelle.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 22, 2023 23:48:45 GMT -5
What if Pitino took the initiative and called ?
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Post by fillfittonfield on Feb 22, 2023 23:54:29 GMT -5
Holy Cross inquired about Pitino last season? If true, I think this is pretty big news. KH presumably made the inquiry. Why “presumably” ? Pitino could have been contacted by anyone, even an alum. Hoops: Good point. He could have been contacted by anybody. I assumed that an inquiry like the one referenced in the article would have to come from someone with authority to represent Holy Cross (like an AD or Associate AD in charge of basketball). But obviously I could be mistaken. I don’t know how these things work, but let’s play this out. Could a well-connected Holy Cross alum reach out to a top person at Iona and/or Pitino’s agent and be able to obtain info on Pitino’s contract? It’s an honest question. I don’t know, but I’ll let the experts on the Board opine on this. Bottom line - The fact that someone from HC reached out (officially or unofficially) to Pitino last year is news to me.
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Post by hchoops on Feb 22, 2023 23:57:33 GMT -5
Why are you presuming that H.C did the reaching out ? Are you accepting Pitino’s self serving words ? Please.
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Post by fillfittonfield on Feb 23, 2023 0:08:51 GMT -5
Why are you presuming that H.C did the reaching out ? Are you accepting Pitino’s self serving words ? Please. Hoops: To be honest, I am presuming that HC reached out because that’s what Pitino said in the article (see relevant paragraph below). Perhaps I’m the sucker and fell for this one and Pitino was actually the one who contacted HC. Let me ask you a question though. If you are Pitino, why would you be calling HC last year? You’ve just come off two strong seasons at Iona. Wouldn’t HC be a lateral move? I can see him calling Maryland and even calling URI. For the life of me, I wouldn’t understand why he’d be interested in the Holy Cross job last season. "I was offered three really good jobs last year," Pitino said. "But I told the one job, it was a big-time job, I said, 'Look, I've got a $5 million buyout. I had $10 million prior to that. I'm not worth that.'" Sources told CBS Sports the job Pitino is alluding to is Maryland, which hired Kevin Willard — a former Iona coach and someone in Pitino's circle. (Holy Cross and Rhode Island also inquired.)
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Post by HC92 on Feb 23, 2023 7:13:42 GMT -5
Pitino originally said he was offered three jobs but the updated article seems to make clear there were no offers. Non-Pitino sources apparently confirmed that he had discussions with Maryland but those discussions never produced an offer. The story also suggests there was some kind of contact from HC and URI but certainly not an offer and no indication whether the contacts from those schools came from an employee of the school or a curious alum.
From the updated article:
Sources told CBS Sports the job Pitino is alluding to is Maryland. (Update: a source re-confirmed that Maryland reached out to Pitino, but clarified that contact did not lead to a job offer.) Maryland hired Kevin Willard — a former Iona coach and someone in Pitino's circle. (Holy Cross and Rhode Island also inquired.)
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Post by hc17 on Feb 23, 2023 8:07:14 GMT -5
This is pretty significant news that HC reached out to Pitino last year. We knew there was interest before last year, but given the timing…Nelson is a dead man walking. Perhaps, they’ll swing big in the upcoming search? Last night’s result certainly didn’t help the Nelson cause.
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Post by HC92 on Feb 23, 2023 8:16:50 GMT -5
This is pretty significant news that HC reached out to Pitino last year. We knew there was interest before last year, but given the timing…Nelson is a dead man walking. Perhaps, they’ll swing big in the upcoming search? Last night’s result certainly didn’t help the Nelson cause. Again, I would not read anything in that article to confirm that Kit or anyone else in the employ of HC was involved in the reported reach out last year. It seems there is a fairly high likelihood of us being in the market for a new coach in a few weeks. I would be shocked if Rick Pitino is that coach for a number of reasons. If you’re going to hire someone that age with a track record of success who would be more expensive than other candidates, bring back RW with Andy Sachs as the successor-in-waiting. I don’t think RW would have any interest in that but it’s more likely than Pitino.
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