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Post by HC92 on Apr 21, 2023 10:28:29 GMT -5
My guess is our head coach isn’t traveling 3,000 miles to focus on ‘24 and ‘25s on an AAU team up the road that will be playing in multiple events in the coming months much closer to home. I think there is more to it than that. Maybe I am wrong. This could be one of the last major AAU events before the ‘23s graduate. Who knows? Coaches of D1 schools travel to all the major AAU events every year. The one in Phoenix qualifies and I am certain we’d be represented there even if we had no 2023 openings. |
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Post by HC92 on Apr 21, 2023 10:47:40 GMT -5
I know everyone is chomping at the bit but my impression is DP is trying to temper expectations that he wants to re-build this program from the ground up (absolutely NOT running off current players like we've seen previously). Love everything about DP but I’m not sure how much credit he gets for not running kids off. He’s only got 3 scholarship kids on the team who are already on the team and who will still be on the team in 12 months unless someone gets an extra year. Kenney, Batch and Kirkwood. Tough to do too much running off. He’ll have his own guys soon enough and the guys he’s inheriting for more than a year are all pretty good. He’s keeping the two incoming Frosh but both seem like good players and one is from his go-to AAU program. |
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Post by Tom on Apr 21, 2023 12:08:50 GMT -5
I kind of give Coach Paulsen credit for not running kids off the team, much like I kind of give him credit for not beating his wife. I suppose you can give credit for doing what is expected of you
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Post by DiMarz on Apr 21, 2023 12:32:26 GMT -5
All are talking-east, midwest, and west coast Where there is an alumni base, good recruiting area. Extending the 'brand' geographically. DP is currently enroute to this AAU tournament in Phoenix. Check out the teams in the Super showcase. basketball.exposureevents.com/197341/wce-cactus-classic/teams(Team Curry is out of Charlotte) There s a guy.....who makes a lot of money dealing with college coaches at these events. As a college coach trying to see possible recruits, one hires the guy, he then runs all the names thru his data bank of players and teams at the tourney and comes up with each individual clients schedule to see his candidates...Multiple sites, days and times...My daughter used this service at the big AAU tourneys, when she was coaching at the D-3 level... |
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Post by sader1970 on Apr 21, 2023 12:41:46 GMT -5
Yeah, most of us expected Nelson to run off a lot of Carmody's guys because, you know, they weren't D-1 player quality. Fortunately, Brett left the cupboard full for lucky DP.
Let's see how the transition works out compared to the last one.
Carmody's last year (2018-19) 16-17 (6-12 PL)
Nelson's first year (2019-20) 3-29 (2-16 PL)
Nelson's last year (2022-23) 10-22 (7-11 PL)
Paulsen first year (2023-24) ?
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Post by timholycross on Apr 21, 2023 12:54:11 GMT -5
My guess is our head coach isn’t traveling 3,000 miles to focus on ‘24 and ‘25s on an AAU team up the road that will be playing in multiple events in the coming months much closer to home. I think there is more to it than that. Maybe I am wrong. This could be one of the last major AAU events before the ‘23s graduate. Who knows? I don't think anyone who's signed with a college can even play AAU in the spring, can they? So this event would have to be 23 unsigned and younger. |
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Post by DiMarz on Apr 21, 2023 15:10:03 GMT -5
My guess is our head coach isn’t traveling 3,000 miles to focus on ‘24 and ‘25s on an AAU team up the road that will be playing in multiple events in the coming months much closer to home. I think there is more to it than that. Maybe I am wrong. This could be one of the last major AAU events before the ‘23s graduate. Who knows? I don't think anyone who's signed with a college can even play AAU in the spring, can they? So this event would have to be 23 unsigned and younger. Correct as far as I know...and also, what about kids planning on a prep year? I think those kids can pay. there is a division called "Unsigned Senior Showcase".. |
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Post by trimster on Apr 21, 2023 15:25:02 GMT -5
There s a guy.....who makes a lot of money dealing with college coaches at these events. As a college coach trying to see possible recruits, one hires the guy, he then runs all the names thru his data bank of players and teams at the tourney and comes up with each individual clients schedule to see his candidates...Multiple sites, days and times...My daughter used this service at the big AAU tourneys, when she was coaching at the D-3 level... From what I can see of these big time AAU events in the video clips of various players, the whole scene just doesn't give me a good feel. Kids parading their skills in barns with 6 courts wearing numbers like 406. |
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Post by HC92 on Apr 21, 2023 15:51:05 GMT -5
There s a guy.....who makes a lot of money dealing with college coaches at these events. As a college coach trying to see possible recruits, one hires the guy, he then runs all the names thru his data bank of players and teams at the tourney and comes up with each individual clients schedule to see his candidates...Multiple sites, days and times...My daughter used this service at the big AAU tourneys, when she was coaching at the D-3 level... There’s a link on the Under Armour website re: the Girls Under Armour tourney in Manheim, PA this weekend that offers Live Stream, Event Admission, Video On-demand (for up to 90 days) for a mere $675 for college coaches. At least one of our women’s coaches will be there. |
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Post by DiMarz on Apr 21, 2023 16:22:39 GMT -5
There s a guy.....who makes a lot of money dealing with college coaches at these events. As a college coach trying to see possible recruits, one hires the guy, he then runs all the names thru his data bank of players and teams at the tourney and comes up with each individual clients schedule to see his candidates...Multiple sites, days and times...My daughter used this service at the big AAU tourneys, when she was coaching at the D-3 level... From what I can see of these big time AAU events in the video clips of various players, the whole scene just doesn't give me a good feel. Kids parading their skills in barns with 6 courts wearing numbers like 406. Some of the “tournaments” are what is called a Showcase. Top teams compete against each other, coaches can see many possible recruits playing against each other. The days of college coaches getting a phone call or letters about a kid are long gone. The level of play at the camps and tournaments has significantly gotten better in the past 10-15 years. The high numbers actually make it easier to find a kid.. and remember, there can be many sites within the tournament. |
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Post by DiMarz on Apr 21, 2023 16:26:59 GMT -5
There s a guy.....who makes a lot of money dealing with college coaches at these events. As a college coach trying to see possible recruits, one hires the guy, he then runs all the names thru his data bank of players and teams at the tourney and comes up with each individual clients schedule to see his candidates...Multiple sites, days and times...My daughter used this service at the big AAU tourneys, when she was coaching at the D-3 level... There’s a link on the Under Armour website re: the Girls Under Armour tourney in Manheim, PA this weekend that offers Live Stream, Event Admission, Video On-demand (for up to 90 days) for a mere $675 for college coaches. At least one of our women’s coaches will be there. Yes, it is big business tracking these kids today. One of the events my daughter attended every year was in Atlanta, at least 20 courts in the same convention center.. Games from 8am until 10pm! As a coach, you have to know who you are looking at before you get there! |
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Post by HC92 on Apr 21, 2023 20:30:20 GMT -5
There’s a link on the Under Armour website re: the Girls Under Armour tourney in Manheim, PA this weekend that offers Live Stream, Event Admission, Video On-demand (for up to 90 days) for a mere $675 for college coaches. At least one of our women’s coaches will be there. Yes, it is big business tracking these kids today. One of the events my daughter attended every year was in Atlanta, at least 20 courts in the same convention center.. Games from 8am until 10pm! As a coach, you have to know who you are looking at before you get there! True. My kids are playing in one of those in the Atlantic City Convention Center in a couple of weeks. Going to be painful. |
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 21, 2023 22:05:57 GMT -5
Here's the other team competing. These are 2024s.
From the list of schools attended, these kids know which fork to use. Not sure how I feel about an AAU team being a silo of elites. Why does the logo say UAA? The longtime headmaster of the Newman School in Boston, unless he retired is Harry Lynch HC '74. Looks like they have become at least in part a basketball school. Smaht. |
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 21, 2023 22:20:22 GMT -5
All are talking-east, midwest, and west coast Was going to mention SLU, Loyola Chicago and U of Detroit. In terms of bus trips, there's Fairfield and St. Peter's. Or, God forbid, shuffling off to Buffalo. MAAC schools do the shuffalo for both Canisius and Niagara. |
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Post by HC92 on Apr 21, 2023 22:31:03 GMT -5
Here's the other team competing. These are 2024s.
From the list of schools attended, these kids know which fork to use. Not sure how I feel about an AAU team being a silo of elites. Why does the logo say UAA? The longtime headmaster of the Newman School in Boston, unless he retired is Harry Lynch HC '74. Looks like they have become at least in part a basketball school. Smaht. UAA signifies that a team is a member of the Under Armour Circuit. Nike is “EYBL.” Adidas is 3SS (3 Stripe Select) or 3SG (3 Stripe Gold). If your AAU team is not on one of the “sneaker circuits,” it’s going to be much harder to get college coaches to pay attention to you. |
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Post by longsuffering on Apr 21, 2023 22:31:33 GMT -5
Yeah, it's almost like they omitted "High" from "Oliver Ames School" so as not to embarrass the lone public school kid. Class of 25, so he still has time to ditch OA and end up at a private; class of '25 or '26 (they might not shake him down for a "reclassify" year given that he'd be there 2 years anyway). Because it's not called Easton High School, "Oliver Ames" blends right in with the Preps. |
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Post by HC92 on Apr 22, 2023 2:42:56 GMT -5
Yeah, it's almost like they omitted "High" from "Oliver Ames School" so as not to embarrass the lone public school kid. Class of 25, so he still has time to ditch OA and end up at a private; class of '25 or '26 (they might not shake him down for a "reclassify" year given that he'd be there 2 years anyway). Because it's not called Easton High School, "Oliver Ames" blends right in with the Preps. Same with “Daniel Hand School.” Hand HS is the public HS in Madison, CT. |
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Post by crosspride on Apr 22, 2023 7:08:02 GMT -5
I don’t think the attendance in Phoenix tells us much about 2023s. Guessing the primary purpose is to look at 2024s and beyond. If they happen to connect with a viable 2023 while they’re out there, all the better. We are still two short heading into the 2023-24 season, so if it's not going to be the high school/prep route, HCDP is going to need to find at least one kid from the portal for next year's team. The Frankel kid seems like he'd be a solid addition. Let's get him. Only other offer was from 3-26 LIU. Yet in another thread you suggested Paulson should cut ties with Singleton (4 offers). Wondering why Frankel would be a solid addition but Singleton wouldn’t be, in your opinion. Thanks! |
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Apr 22, 2023 7:37:53 GMT -5
We are still two short heading into the 2023-24 season, so if it's not going to be the high school/prep route, HCDP is going to need to find at least one kid from the portal for next year's team. The Frankel kid seems like he'd be a solid addition. Let's get him. Only other offer was from 3-26 LIU. Yet in another thread you suggested Paulson should cut ties with Singleton (4 offers). Wondering why Frankel would be a solid addition but Singleton wouldn’t be, in your opinion. Thanks! Ranked 33rd in New England by NERR for the class of 2023. |
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Apr 22, 2023 13:17:41 GMT -5
Frankel having played on a stacked Brewster team reminds me of Robert Champion's path
Is a bit strange Frankel has so few offers.
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Post by DiMarz on Apr 22, 2023 15:18:43 GMT -5
Yes, it is big business tracking these kids today. One of the events my daughter attended every year was in Atlanta, at least 20 courts in the same convention center.. Games from 8am until 10pm! As a coach, you have to know who you are looking at before you get there! True. My kids are playing in one of those in the Atlantic City Convention Center in a couple of weeks. Going to be painful. I always enjoyed going to the big events. We played in DC years ago, I looked a few courts down while playing at Catholic University, and sawGeno Aureamma, Pat Summit, Vivian Stringer and Tara VanDeleer (sp) of Stanford.! Never did see who was playing on that court.. |
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Post by HC92 on Apr 22, 2023 16:29:10 GMT -5
True. My kids are playing in one of those in the Atlantic City Convention Center in a couple of weeks. Going to be painful. I always enjoyed going to the big events. We played in DC years ago, I looked a few courts down while playing at Catholic University, and sawGeno Aureamma, Pat Summit, Vivian Stringer and Tara VanDeleer (sp) of Stanford.! Never did see who was playing on that court.. That’s fun. I just want to see Coach Magarity, get the scholarship locked up and stop going to these things. |
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Post by DiMarz on Apr 22, 2023 18:10:28 GMT -5
I always enjoyed going to the big events. We played in DC years ago, I looked a few courts down while playing at Catholic University, and sawGeno Aureamma, Pat Summit, Vivian Stringer and Tara VanDeleer (sp) of Stanford.! Never did see who was playing on that court.. That’s fun. I just want to see Coach Magarity, get the scholarship locked up and stop going to these things. These things get the brand out in front of the players! |
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