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Post by sader1970 on Sept 29, 2023 12:35:53 GMT -5
Is it possible that their threshold of "brutally tough" means one that they might not go undefeated?
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Post by hc69 on Sept 29, 2023 12:47:34 GMT -5
He appears to fasten the strap (1 not two on each side) but yes, it does seem opponents rip at it. I've noticed it comes off pretty easily too. A properly fastened helmet shouldn't come off unless the opponent grasps and twists it. That will turn the head. Twice when it's come off TV showed a replay. No unusual contact that I could see. I would expect the equipment guys have looked into this. Can't afford to have the QB sit out a play or have to burn a TO to keep him in the game.
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 29, 2023 13:10:20 GMT -5
haskins hasn't had as great a start to the season as we might have expected, but very glad he's healthy as he's obviously a key contributor to the defense. i suspect his play will pick back up to the high levels we've seen before very soon. If Devin needs a breather, we have an Eli to take on the Crimson.
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 29, 2023 13:15:28 GMT -5
Purdy is listed as the lead punt returner. He's a key contributor but perhaps more replaceable than Coker if God forbid an injury occurs while returning a punt.
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Post by Crosser on Sept 29, 2023 14:12:27 GMT -5
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Post by ts1970 on Sept 29, 2023 14:53:03 GMT -5
Maybe Matt needs a smaller size helmet if it’s too loose.
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Post by Ignutz on Sept 29, 2023 15:19:36 GMT -5
After seeing his helmet come of repeatedly, including a play in the west end of the stadium last year where he lost his helmet, took another hit, and continued on to the end-zone, I think he's just more comfortable without the hat strapped on tightly. Maybe because a lacrosse helmet isn't so big and heavy, and that's what he'd been more used to.
For my money, it is what it is. His game certainly ain't broke, so there's no reason, in my mind, to fix it!
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Post by cruskater31 on Sept 29, 2023 17:07:59 GMT -5
haskins hasn't had as great a start to the season as we might have expected, but very glad he's healthy as he's obviously a key contributor to the defense. i suspect his play will pick back up to the high levels we've seen before very soon. If Devin needs a breather, we have an Eli to take on the Crimson. I thought he might have appeared on the 2 deep behind Spence and Haskins but Duchemin and Scott are the backups. Scott completely should be our no 3. With our rotations, don't worry, we will see Eli I am sure.
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 29, 2023 19:43:41 GMT -5
If Devin needs a breather, we have an Eli to take on the Crimson. I thought he might have appeared on the 2 deep behind Spence and Haskins but Duchemin and Scott are the backups. Scott completely should be our no 3. With our rotations, don't worry, we will see Eli I am sure. Two interceptions in one game doesn't go as far as it did when HC was in it's one championship in 27 year drought. But an Eli should be up for playing Harvard so I hope he gets in. Tremendous depth all across the team now. But only one Sluka.
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Post by hc69 on Sept 29, 2023 20:17:34 GMT -5
After seeing his helmet come of repeatedly, including a play in the west end of the stadium last year where he lost his helmet, took another hit, and continued on to the end-zone, I think he's just more comfortable without the hat strapped on tightly. Maybe because a lacrosse helmet isn't so big and heavy, and that's what he'd been more used to. For my mone,y it is what it is. His game certainly ain't broke, so there's no reason, in my mind, to fix it! If the helmet of a player in possession of the ball comes off during the play, the ball is dead immediately. If his helmet came off and he continued on to the end zone, it couldn't have been a TD. Dead where the helmet came off.
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 29, 2023 20:29:06 GMT -5
Yet when his helmet was knocked off in an earlier game and he then ran into the endzone the score was counted.
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Post by Crucis#1 on Sept 29, 2023 20:36:45 GMT -5
I am having a flashback……why did they award Albany a touchdown when Gabe Guild’s helmet came off when he was hit and fumbled the ball? Should not have the play been called dead, given to Albany and the ball been placed on the Albany 21 yard line? Why was it not challenged? The game was 9 years ago, but I am still traumatized by that lost 😡. goholycross.com/news/2014/8/29/210200693.aspx
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 29, 2023 20:38:34 GMT -5
That play (and non-call by officials) still sticks in my craw as well.
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Post by Ignutz on Sept 30, 2023 6:31:09 GMT -5
After seeing his helmet come of repeatedly, including a play in the west end of the stadium last year where he lost his helmet, took another hit, and continued on to the end-zone, I think he's just more comfortable without the hat strapped on tightly. Maybe because a lacrosse helmet isn't so big and heavy, and that's what he'd been more used to. For my mone,y it is what it is. His game certainly ain't broke, so there's no reason, in my mind, to fix it! If the helmet of a player in possession of the ball comes off during the play, the ball is dead immediately. If his helmet came off and he continued on to the end zone, it couldn't have been a TD. Dead where the helmet came off. Correct, but that didn’t stop him from finishing the play and “scoring”. They brought the ball back to where he’d been stripped of his chapeau - to the dismay of the crowd, and we (I think Sluka) got the TD a play or two later.
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 30, 2023 7:32:44 GMT -5
If the helmet of a player in possession of the ball comes off during the play, the ball is dead immediately. If his helmet came off and he continued on to the end zone, it couldn't have been a TD. Dead where the helmet came off. Correct, but that didn’t stop him from finishing the play and “scoring”. They brought the ball back to where he’d been stripped of his chapeau - to the dismay of the crowd, and we (I think Sluka) got the TD a play or two later. New French vocabulary word "chapeau" duly registered by this Septuagenarian, Thank You!
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Post by timholycross on Sept 30, 2023 8:50:39 GMT -5
I am having a flashback……why did they award Albany a touchdown when Gabe Guild’s helmet came off when he was hit and fumbled the ball? Should not have the play been called dead, given to Albany and the ball been placed on the Albany 21 yard line? Why was it not challenged? The game was 9 years ago, but I am still traumatized by that lost 😡. goholycross.com/news/2014/8/29/210200693.aspxI believe it was before the rule change that allowed for targeting reviews after the play regardless of a flag being thrown, not sure about the helmet rule (although if the helmet came off during contact but the contact caused the fumble, don't see why the game would have stopped; vis-a-vis the helmet coming off then the fumble a few yards down the field). That was a helmet-to-helmet hit and not only did Guild fumble, but IIRC he missed 1-3 games afterwards. One of more than a few games during the Gilmore regime in which defeat was snatched from the jaws of victory; whether or not it was Gilmore's fault I'll leave to the interested student to opine about.
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Post by cruskater31 on Sept 30, 2023 9:02:08 GMT -5
Is HC offering any shuttles for fans from campus?
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 30, 2023 9:17:21 GMT -5
I am having a flashback……why did they award Albany a touchdown when Gabe Guild’s helmet came off when he was hit and fumbled the ball? Should not have the play been called dead, given to Albany and the ball been placed on the Albany 21 yard line? Why was it not challenged? The game was 9 years ago, but I am still traumatized by that lost 😡. goholycross.com/news/2014/8/29/210200693.aspxI believe it was before the rule change that allowed for targeting reviews after the play regardless of a flag being thrown, not sure about the helmet rule (although if the helmet came off during contact but the contact caused the fumble, don't see why the game would have stopped; vis-a-vis the helmet coming off then the fumble a few yards down the field). That was a helmet-to-helmet hit and not only did Guild fumble, but IIRC he missed 1-3 games afterwards. One of more than a few games during the Gilmore regime in which defeat was snatched from the jaws of victory; whether or not it was Gilmore's fault I'll leave to the interested student to opine about. When these end of game disappointments were occurring Amanda Belichick arrived to coach a Winter/Spring sport with a lighter schedule on Fall Saturdays. Based on the faulty logic that through Osmosis she had absorbed her father's half century and her brothers' decade of experience in "situational football" I wondered if she might help TG as a special "Time and Distance" Assistant on the sidelines especially for these late game decisions. I kept that idea to myself fortunately. TG was snake bitten at the end of games. Probably a combination of Lady Luck and lack of expertise in situational football. Bill Belichick sometimes quizzes players on what to do in specific situations when they arrive to the building. Even Team President Jonathan Kraft wasn't exempt from these quizzes as he mentioned once on his pre-game radio segment "Indside the Owner's Box."
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Post by longsuffering on Sept 30, 2023 9:28:51 GMT -5
This morning's projected rain is a dud. 90% cloud cover projected for 5pm, but I wouldn't put it past Sol to poke through and bathe the park in sunlight for the kickoff, the storm seems to be moving out ahead of schedule.
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Post by hcmawfawo on Sept 30, 2023 10:31:43 GMT -5
In case anybody with season tickets didn’t spot this in some of the messaging from the College:
SEASON TICKET MEMBER PERKS AT EBW FOOTBALL CLASSIC: As a Holy Cross Football Season Ticket Member, you are entitled to certain benefits at the EBW Football Classic on Saturday. First, each of the tickets you received as part of your season ticket package is loaded with $10 in loaded value that may be utilized at concession stands or the WooSox Team Store on the day of the EBW Football Classic.
Second, each account holder will be able to redeem a single-use 10% discount on a single item at the WooSox Team Store on the day of the EBW Football Classic.
The Team Store discount is only eligible at the Main Store on Madison Street on Saturday, September 30, and may not be applied to clearance or WooSox Foundation items.
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Post by rgs318 on Sept 30, 2023 10:36:29 GMT -5
A thoughtful reminder!
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Post by hc6774 on Sept 30, 2023 10:38:52 GMT -5
After seeing his helmet come of repeatedly, including a play in the west end of the stadium last year where he lost his helmet, took another hit, and continued on to the end-zone, I think he's just more comfortable without the hat strapped on tightly. Maybe because a lacrosse helmet isn't so big and heavy, and that's what he'd been more used to. For my money, it is what it is. His game certainly ain't broke, so there's no reason, in my mind, to fix it! I think it's his headband.
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Post by hc69 on Sept 30, 2023 10:45:54 GMT -5
I am having a flashback……why did they award Albany a touchdown when Gabe Guild’s helmet came off when he was hit and fumbled the ball? Should not have the play been called dead, given to Albany and the ball been placed on the Albany 21 yard line? Why was it not challenged? The game was 9 years ago, but I am still traumatized by that lost 😡. goholycross.com/news/2014/8/29/210200693.aspxI believe it was before the rule change that allowed for targeting reviews after the play regardless of a flag being thrown, not sure about the helmet rule (although if the helmet came off during contact but the contact caused the fumble, don't see why the game would have stopped; vis-a-vis the helmet coming off then the fumble a few yards down the field). That was a helmet-to-helmet hit and not only did Guild fumble, but IIRC he missed 1-3 games afterwards. One of more than a few games during the Gilmore regime in which defeat was snatched from the jaws of victory; whether or not it was Gilmore's fault I'll leave to the interested student to opine about. It's a safety rule. Players can't play without a helmet. If the helmet of the runner comes off for any reason, the ball is dead. If the helmet of any other player comes off, the play remains live but that player cannot participate beyond the immediate action in which he is engaged, e.g., he can continue a block in which he is already engaged but he can't run a few yards and then initiate a block. A player whose helmet has come off cannot be contacted beyond the immediate action in which he is engaged. What caused the helmet to come off affects only whether the player must sit out one play. He must sit out unless the helmet came off as a direct result of a FOUL involving the helmet, e.g. facemask, TGT, illegal hands to the face. Legal contact to the helmet that causes the helmet to come off, as in wrapping an arm around the helmet during a tackle or two helmets inadvertently colliding, doesn't buy him out of having to sit out.
If the helmet comes off and simultaneously there is a fumble, the play is dead. But this is where the "immediate recovery" rule comes in. If the fumble is immediately recovered, the recovery counts. I've never seen a video of this. Usually one will happen before the other. If the helmet comes off before the ball comes loose, the ball is dead immediately and there is no fumble. If the fumble occurs before the helmet comes off, the ball remains live because the "runner" wasn't in possession of the ball when his helmet came off
More than you probably wanted to know.
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Post by crusader1970 on Sept 30, 2023 13:56:14 GMT -5
South Dakota just went up on NDS 14-3. Lively environment. Fun watch.
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