Wayne
Climbing Mt. St. James
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Post by Wayne on Jun 1, 2024 18:24:35 GMT -5
Not to sound disrespectful, but I'd assume that UMass and Temple would prefer that UVM and Yale, two programs who have been substantially better in recent years, be promoted to the featured event. I have no doubt that opportunity is there for HC to slide into the lower bracket if that occurs. HC-Temple were rivals??
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 1, 2024 19:41:36 GMT -5
Not to sound disrespectful, but I'd assume that UMass and Temple would prefer that UVM and Yale, two programs who have been substantially better in recent years, be promoted to the featured event. I have no doubt that opportunity is there for HC to slide into the lower bracket if that occurs. HC-Temple were rivals?? UMass and Temple were A-10 rivals. HC is 6-3 vs Temple between 1944-1973. Time to run it back again.
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Post by hchoops on Jun 1, 2024 21:00:18 GMT -5
Not to sound disrespectful, but I'd assume that UMass and Temple would prefer that UVM and Yale, two programs who have been substantially better in recent years, be promoted to the featured event. I have no doubt that opportunity is there for HC to slide into the lower bracket if that occurs. “No doubt ..” I have plenty of doubt We are not a team that has many followers=gamblers
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Post by timholycross on Jun 2, 2024 11:18:00 GMT -5
UMass is now in the MAC. That has greatly diminished their leverage.
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Post by timholycross on Jun 2, 2024 11:22:51 GMT -5
Not to sound disrespectful, but I'd assume that UMass and Temple would prefer that UVM and Yale, two programs who have been substantially better in recent years, be promoted to the featured event. I have no doubt that opportunity is there for HC to slide into the lower bracket if that occurs. HC-Temple were rivals?? UMass and Temple were A-10 rivals. HC is 6-3 vs Temple between 1944-1973. Time to run it back again. Didnt realize the home and home between HC and Temple in 71-72 and 72-73 were the last two times they played one another. The visitors won each game. The Aud game was an afternoon ECAC game of the week and I think Curt Gowdy called it.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jun 2, 2024 21:55:22 GMT -5
"In exchange for leaving, PC will play future games at Mohegan Sun"
How about a 2 for 1 with HC?
2 at the Dunk, 1 at Mohegan.
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 3, 2024 5:54:33 GMT -5
To play teams like PC anywhere, I believe Holy Cross has to find that PC “sweet spot” where we are good enough that we would enhance their schedule but still be a very high probable win.
We aren’t there yet. Have to give DP another 2 years IMO.
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Post by Tom on Jun 3, 2024 7:12:54 GMT -5
"In exchange for leaving, PC will play future games at Mohegan Sun" How about a 2 for 1 with HC? 2 at the Dunk, 1 at Mohegan. I think I would say "no, thank you" to that one. If there's going be a 2 for 1, I want the 1 to be in Worcester, not an arena closer to Providence than HC. Better to take the money of a pay game in Providence than 3 away games with no money
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 3, 2024 10:20:45 GMT -5
1-1-1? Help PC meet their obligation to Mohegan in exchange for some Casino cash?
In general, too much conniving with the schedule. Teams like PC and BC should just honor commitments as their default position unless an act of God or something prevents it. It's not like the tournament was scheduled in Haiti, it's a good regional location for both.
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Post by Chu Chu on Jun 3, 2024 12:17:25 GMT -5
To play teams like PC anywhere, I believe Holy Cross has to find that PC “sweet spot” where we are good enough that we would enhance their schedule but still be a very high probable win. We aren’t there yet. Have to give DP another 2 years IMO. Nice picture, sader1970! Is that from the just completed reunion weekend? I'm sorry I was unable to attend this year.
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 3, 2024 12:20:59 GMT -5
No. Don’t recall the circumstance without looking it up where I got it but believe the unified Reunion weekend is coming up THIS weekend as I will be up for HCAA Board meeting not for the Reunion per se.
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Post by rf1 on Jun 5, 2024 11:43:41 GMT -5
Word is that Florida State will be the third team in the revised HOF Tournament at Mohegan with UMass and Temple. Florida State was 17-16 last year with an NET rank of #96. Temple was 15-20 with an Net of #191. UMass had the best performance last year with a record of 20-11 (NET #91) but it was not even good enough for the NIT and has since lost its best players to the portal. Mohegan Sun is taking a big hit as its big draw PC departed. UMass struggles with attendance at home and has traditionally not drawn well at the casino. I think that organizers knew Friar fans would show and local opponent match-ups might increase interest from BC and UMass fans. The tournament will now have no local contests and it has been been extended to three days with only one weekend date as opposed to two.
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Post by hchoops on Jun 5, 2024 12:46:17 GMT -5
So the top half of this tourney will have 3, not 4, trams ?
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 5, 2024 12:58:30 GMT -5
So, HC doesn't send many fans...but our travel reimbursement from the Casino is rock bottom. There are either none or very few stop signs or traffic lights between Mt. St. James and Mohegan Sun, it's all toll free interstate highway. I hope we can slide in.
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Post by rf1 on Jun 5, 2024 14:19:19 GMT -5
So the top half of this tourney will have 3, not 4, trams ? Yes. Just three teams now.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jun 5, 2024 16:27:13 GMT -5
Word is that Florida State will be the third team in the revised HOF Tournament at Mohegan with UMass and Temple. Florida State was 17-16 last year with an NET rank of #96. Temple was 15-20 with a Net of #191. UMass had the best performance last year with a record of 20-11 (NET #91) but it was not even good enough for the NIT and has since lost its best players to the portal. Mohegan Sun is taking a big hit as its big draw PC departed. UMass struggles with attendance at home and has traditionally not drawn well at the casino. I think that organizers knew Friar fans would show and local opponent match-ups might increase interest from BC and UMass fans. The tournament will now have no local contests and it has been been extended to three days with only one weekend date as opposed to two. Fairfield and Yale aren't local??
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Post by purplehaze on Jun 5, 2024 20:22:52 GMT -5
We know that BC dropped out of the Mohegan event and now they’ve announced they’re playing in the Veterans Classic Nov 8 at the Naval Academy - it’s a one day event with BC vs. VCU and Navy vs. Harvard
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Post by cmo on Jun 5, 2024 20:23:41 GMT -5
"In exchange for leaving, PC will play future games at Mohegan Sun" How about a 2 for 1 with HC? 2 at the Dunk, 1 at Mohegan.
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Post by Crosser on Jun 5, 2024 22:08:51 GMT -5
The worm turns.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 5, 2024 22:33:13 GMT -5
PC renegotiated it's pre-nup.
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Post by 78purple on Jun 5, 2024 22:38:26 GMT -5
Not to sound disrespectful, but I'd assume that UMass and Temple would prefer that UVM and Yale, two programs who have been substantially better in recent years, be promoted to the featured event. I have no doubt that opportunity is there for HC to slide into the lower bracket if that occurs. HC-Temple were rivals?? It can't be that hard......A regular OOC schedule of BC, UMass, UConn, Providence, Seton Hall, St Peters, Yale, Princeton, Penn, Villanova, St John's and Georgetown would do wonders re: recruiting
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 6, 2024 1:03:08 GMT -5
Those schools are saying a regular OOC schedule of Duke, UNC, Kentucky and Purdue will do wonders re: recruiting.
Winning against our peers may be more positive right now than losing against schools we aren't ready for yet. It's good to play a couple of Georgetown types if we can but the excitement of the Willard era and the current Magarity era in WBB is mostly from consistent winning against peer level mid-majors by well coached teams.
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 6, 2024 7:23:32 GMT -5
From DP:
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Wayne
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Post by Wayne on Jun 6, 2024 8:01:02 GMT -5
Eight OOC games accounted for and only two at home. With so many low major opponents in the NE/NY area, it would be nice if they could add another home game or two. Can't set something up with Lowell, Merrimack, Bryant, UNH, etc. to try and balance the home/road split at little? I see that Lafayette is hosting a multi-team event at Kirby with Binghamton, LIU, and Niagara. Would like to see HC try to organize one at some point.
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Post by Tom on Jun 6, 2024 8:11:14 GMT -5
Eight OOC games accounted for and only two at home. With so many low major opponents in the NE/NY area, it would be nice if they could add another home game or two. Can't set something up with Lowell, Merrimack, Bryant, UNH, etc. to try and balance the home/road split at little? I see that Lafayette is hosting a multi-team event at Kirby with Binghamton, LIU, and Niagara. Would like to see HC try to organize one at some point. Not my favorite, but I imagine there will be a D-III game (or two) at Hart to get home dates
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