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Post by longsuffering on Jul 10, 2024 0:06:28 GMT -5
I have no clue how Yale (or Brown or Harvard ) look on TV, but Yale was a cool place to see in person, but more so the outside architecture than the court as I recall Yale is the oddest building in New England. I know it is the only building I actually have to be key carded into the court. Wikipedia says that Lavietes Pavilion at Harvard is the second oldest active college basketball facility in America behind Rose Hill Gymnasium at Fordham University. However Yale might have a claim because Lavietes is inside the Briggs Athletic Center, so the space is old but basketball was played elsewhere in Cambridge until 1982. Before that the space contained an indoor track and a batting cage that Ted Williams used. When I've seen games on TV from Lavietes it reminds me of Plywood Ranch and I think Harvard is the one school under the least pressure to build a new palace. Nobody chooses UMass over Harvard because the Mullins center is so much nicer.
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Post by sader81 on Jul 10, 2024 7:04:58 GMT -5
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Post by rf1 on Jul 10, 2024 8:03:09 GMT -5
I have no clue how Yale (or Brown or Harvard ) look on TV, but Yale was a cool place to see in person, but more so the outside architecture than the court as I recall Yale is the oddest building in New England. I know it is the only building I actually have to be key carded into the court.
I believe that Matthews Arena at Northeastern is the oldest D1 men's college basketball venue. It opened in 1910. Yale's Payne-Whitney Gymnasium opened in 1932.
This will however change in a few years as Northeastern has announced plans to construct a new arena on the same site. Matthews has serious structural issues and is actually being further supported on one side with exterior steel girder bracing.
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Post by alum on Jul 10, 2024 8:45:14 GMT -5
Despite the loss, one of my favorite HC games of all time. After graduating in 1970 and living 700 miles from HC, I had not seen the hoopers play since the Holiday Festival @ Christmas of 1970. During the ensuing 4 years, Stacom left, King Gaskins came and went and HC suffered back to back losing seasons in ‘72-‘73 and ‘73-‘74 in GB’s first 2 yrs. at the helm, two of only 3 losing seasons since the end of WWII. So I was pleasantly surprised when we got off to a good start in ‘74-‘75. Made the relatively short drive to South Bend and saw a Crusader team that was the aggressor, something we seldom were during JD’s tenure. In that game, we pressed ND constantly and created numerous turnovers. Chris Potter made not one but two of his amazing steals of a baseline inbounds pass that the inbounder threw like a baseball. Game was a TOTAL home job. GB got tossed…only game from which he was ejected in 22 yrs. as HC head coach. Midway thru the second half, we got down by 9 primarily due to the officiating. It was so bad that even the ND fans around me were hushed, acknowledging the one-sidedness of it. At that point, the game turned and we came back to take the lead with under two minutes to go and ended up losing by 6. Seeing the style of play and the talent of Vicens and Potter (Fire and Ice), I could see a bright future ahead. This upcoming season will be the 50th season since then. What memories! I feel badly for the posters and alums who never saw Vicens and Potter play. Their years were probably the zenith of HC hoops since the Buster Sheary days in the early ‘50s. A classmate with contacts out in South Bend was told by said contacts that even the daily ND newspaper acknowledged the embarrassing home-job the next morning. Just Digger being Digger! Your classmate was correct. Click on the 1/21/75 issue. archives.nd.edu/observer/The Crusader's coverage is in the 1/24/75 issue which includes a brief game story as well as piece about some students travelling out to South Bend. There is also a column by Dan Shaugnessey about a Worcester Telegram writer who died in his hotel room in South Bend before the game. crossworks.holycross.edu/crusader70/index.4.htmlThank God Al Gore invented the internet.
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Post by alum on Jul 10, 2024 8:50:15 GMT -5
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Post by Ignutz on Jul 10, 2024 10:39:24 GMT -5
A classmate with contacts out in South Bend was told by said contacts that even the daily ND newspaper acknowledged the embarrassing home-job the next morning. Just Digger being Digger! Your classmate was correct. Click on the 1/21/75 issue. archives.nd.edu/observer/The Crusader's coverage is in the 1/24/75 issue which includes a brief game story as well as piece about some students travelling out to South Bend. There is also a column by Dan Shaugnessey about a Worcester Telegram writer who died in his hotel room in South Bend before the game. crossworks.holycross.edu/crusader70/index.4.htmlThank God Al Gore invented the internet. Thank you for those links. Good reads all.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 10, 2024 11:31:27 GMT -5
I think Ingall's gets alot of press but really isn't that great to watch a game. If it didn't have that hump in the middle, it would be like Brown or Dartmouth's rink. Forgetable.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jul 10, 2024 11:51:42 GMT -5
I think Ingall's gets alot of press but really isn't that great to watch a game. If it didn't have that hump in the middle, it would be like Brown or Dartmouth's rink. Forgetable. Dartmouth's barn is much better than Brown's. It's a great venue, IMO.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jul 10, 2024 12:19:45 GMT -5
Somehow the only Ivy League gyms I've ever made it to for games are Harvard and Columbia. Funny how Ivy basketball arenas are almost the opposite of the football stadiums in a lot of ways. Their stadiums are practically colosseums, most of them ancient relics well beyond their needed capacity for today's interest level in the product that is Ivy football. Several hosted NFL teams for years and a couple were the gold standard in stadium construction at time they were built. Meanwhile, the basketball gyms are bandboxes that mimic your typical New England prep school. Comparable to Colgate and Lafayette's pre-renovated Kirby. Obviously, the Palestra is a historic venue and I'm sure Princeton has a nice barn. I think Cornell has a pretty good size gym but the others are all nothing special. You'd think with the funds these schools have that, while a ton of extra seats aren't in demand, perhaps they'd look to mimic what Fairfield built as far as getting more modern. Either that or that they'd want to have a really awesome dual-purpose hockey/basketball venue like a mini-Conte Forum
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 10, 2024 12:21:07 GMT -5
I am VERY impressed with the ND newspaper article that was very complimentary of the Crusaders and all but said “we wuz robbed.” One-sided officiating when even the home school paper saw it that way.
KUDOS, belatedly by many years, to the Fighting Irish writer.
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Post by timholycross on Jul 10, 2024 12:39:01 GMT -5
Any idea who the HC players are in this photo? You have to press the left button to see the photo, btw.
Chris Potter was #40, but I'm pretty sure that is not him, although it does seem to be from the "shorter shorts" era.
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Post by timholycross on Jul 10, 2024 12:42:45 GMT -5
I think Ingall's gets alot of press but really isn't that great to watch a game. If it didn't have that hump in the middle, it would be like Brown or Dartmouth's rink. Forgetable. Dartmouth's barn is much better than Brown's. It's a great venue, IMO. The previous Dartmouth "barn" was right out of Hoosiers. Very small and very old.
They did play a season or two in the hockey rink. HC suffered a terrible opening game loss in that rink that I witnessed.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jul 10, 2024 13:48:50 GMT -5
Any idea who the HC players are in this photo? You have to press the left button to see the photo, btw.
Chris Potter was #40, but I'm pretty sure that is not him, although it does seem to be from the "shorter shorts" era.
They don't look like any players from the 1971 to 1976 years that I should recognize,
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Post by Chu Chu on Jul 10, 2024 13:58:50 GMT -5
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Post by Ignutz on Jul 10, 2024 15:03:33 GMT -5
Any idea who the HC players are in this photo? You have to press the left button to see the photo, btw.
Chris Potter was #40, but I'm pretty sure that is not him, although it does seem to be from the "shorter shorts" era.
They don't look like any players from the 1971 to 1976 years that I should recognize, That is definitely not Potter. In the mid-70s, #42 was worn by Marty Halsey, and that's not Marty. The shorts look like they're from before the mid-70s.
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Post by bfoley82 on Jul 10, 2024 15:12:36 GMT -5
Somehow the only Ivy League gyms I've ever made it to for games are Harvard and Columbia. Funny how Ivy basketball arenas are almost the opposite of the football stadiums in a lot of ways. Their stadiums are practically colosseums, most of them ancient relics well beyond their needed capacity for today's interest level in the product that is Ivy football. Several hosted NFL teams for years and a couple were the gold standard in stadium construction at time they were built. Meanwhile, the basketball gyms are bandboxes that mimic your typical New England prep school. Comparable to Colgate and Lafayette's pre-renovated Kirby. Obviously, the Palestra is a historic venue and I'm sure Princeton has a nice barn. I think Cornell has a pretty good size gym but the others are all nothing special. You'd think with the funds these schools have that, while a ton of extra seats aren't in demand, perhaps they'd look to mimic what Fairfield built as far as getting more modern. Either that or that they'd want to have a really awesome dual-purpose hockey/basketball venue like a mini-Conte Forum Cornell is a large building but just bleachers on the sides and a small section of bleachers underneath one of the hoops
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Post by trimster on Jul 10, 2024 15:37:32 GMT -5
They don't look like any players from the 1971 to 1976 years that I should recognize, That is definitely not Potter. In the mid-70s, #42 was worn by Marty Halsey, and that's not Marty. The shorts look like they're from before the mid-70s. 40 is Paul Durkee. I think 42 is Grant Evans.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Jul 10, 2024 18:05:19 GMT -5
Somehow the only Ivy League gyms I've ever made it to for games are Harvard and Columbia. Funny how Ivy basketball arenas are almost the opposite of the football stadiums in a lot of ways. Their stadiums are practically colosseums, most of them ancient relics well beyond their needed capacity for today's interest level in the product that is Ivy football. Several hosted NFL teams for years and a couple were the gold standard in stadium construction at time they were built. Meanwhile, the basketball gyms are bandboxes that mimic your typical New England prep school. Comparable to Colgate and Lafayette's pre-renovated Kirby. Obviously, the Palestra is a historic venue and I'm sure Princeton has a nice barn. I think Cornell has a pretty good size gym but the others are all nothing special. You'd think with the funds these schools have that, while a ton of extra seats aren't in demand, perhaps they'd look to mimic what Fairfield built as far as getting more modern. Either that or that they'd want to have a really awesome dual-purpose hockey/basketball venue like a mini-Conte Forum Cornell is a large building but just bleachers on the sides and a small section of bleachers underneath one of the hoops Cornell's gym looks to be sort of the "Yale Bowl of Ivy hoops". Outdated in every respect but at least it has the capacity to accommodate the Big Red with the crowds they deserve when they have winning teams.
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 10, 2024 18:53:09 GMT -5
Interesting digression. Anyone want to talk about the upcoming schedule? 🤷♂️
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Post by trimster on Jul 10, 2024 20:08:21 GMT -5
Interesting digression. Anyone want to talk about the upcoming schedule? 🤷♂️ At Rhody on 11-8 after Wisconsin opener on the 4th.
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Post by sader1970 on Jul 10, 2024 20:09:44 GMT -5
Love these “home games!”😂
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Post by Ignutz on Jul 10, 2024 20:22:31 GMT -5
That is definitely not Potter. In the mid-70s, #42 was worn by Marty Halsey, and that's not Marty. The shorts look like they're from before the mid-70s. 40 is Paul Durkee. I think 42 is Grant Evans. So my bad re: the “old” trou.
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Post by Xmassader on Jul 10, 2024 20:37:37 GMT -5
Chu chu Thanks for the article. It’s a pretty accurate summary of the game. As I said in my previous posts a total home job. Thirty years later, I made the same trek to ND to see the Crusaders vs. ND in an opening round NIT game. As I recall, the game was at 7:00 on a Monday night. When I got to the arena around 6 pm, there was virtually no one in the place…just a few players. Apparently the Notre Dame faithful was disappointed that their 17 or 18 win team did not make the NCAA tournament. The Crusaders played well and came away with a W.
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Post by Chu Chu on Jul 11, 2024 12:16:06 GMT -5
Chu chu Thanks for the article. It’s a pretty accurate summary of the game. As I said in my previous posts a total home job. Thirty years later, I made the same trek to ND to see the Crusaders vs. ND in an opening round NIT game. As I recall, the game was at 7:00 on a Monday night. When I got to the arena around 6 pm, there was virtually no one in the place…just a few players. Apparently the Notre Dame faithful was disappointed that their 17 or 18 win team did not make the NCAA tournament. The Crusaders played well and came away with a W. I watched that one on the boob tube, and I remember it well!
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Post by purplehaze on Jul 12, 2024 11:46:39 GMT -5
Bucknell board reporting 4 'buy road games' on their ooc schedule: Syracuse, Maryland, Kentucky and Gonzaga - maybe they're taking those checks and turning some of the proceeds over to their NIL fund. Never heard of 4 such buy games in one season.
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