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Post by gks on May 28, 2024 8:22:23 GMT -5
Agree 100% that Colgate should be the final rivalry game for HC. Bad weather is part of rivalry games.
Fordham and Georgetown can play in the Associate Members Bowl.
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Post by mm67 on May 28, 2024 11:14:12 GMT -5
FU-G'Town, HC-Colgate makes the most sense to me.
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Post by Chu Chu on May 28, 2024 12:16:15 GMT -5
Agree 100% that Colgate should be the final rivalry game for HC. Bad weather is part of rivalry games. Fordham and Georgetown can play in the Associate Members Bowl. The "Associate Members Bowl" has a nice ring to it!
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Post by hcpride on May 28, 2024 13:01:32 GMT -5
Given our significant student applicant overlap (beyond the Jesuit connection, the presence of numerous nearby HC alums, and relative proximity) Fordham may be the most natural football rival for us now. We’ve played Colgate quite a bit in our history but not sure that makes them more of a rival than Fordham. Of course, the days of boffo rivalries and HC football are long gone in any case.
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Post by hcpride on May 28, 2024 13:09:42 GMT -5
Agree 100% that Colgate should be the final rivalry game for HC. Bad weather is part of rivalry games. Fordham and Georgetown can play in the Associate Members Bowl. Richmond and Fordham are both football and A-10 members. To the extent that means they should play each other last game.
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Post by hchoops on May 28, 2024 13:35:41 GMT -5
Agree 100% that Colgate should be the final rivalry game for HC. Bad weather is part of rivalry games. Fordham and Georgetown can play in the Associate Members Bowl. Richmond and Fordham are both football and A-10 members. To the extent that means they should play each other last game. I believe that there is no sign of a rivalry between Richmond and Fordham. If that means that we would play Georgetown as the last game, no thank you. Fordham makes the most sense for our final game. Let the two southernmost PL members play each other- spiders vs Hoyas.
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Post by longsuffering on May 28, 2024 14:29:25 GMT -5
With both teams being ranked and playoff teams at different times as well as each meeting being the defacto league championship game or having title ramifications, the HC-Fordham series has organically grown into a great rivalry the last few years. Let's hope that continues no matter when the game is played.
Colgate is 213 miles from Bucknell and 230 miles from HC. They probably don't care which one they get hitched to.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on May 28, 2024 14:30:20 GMT -5
Put me in the camp of wanting Fordham as our final game.
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Post by hcpride on May 28, 2024 15:22:38 GMT -5
With both teams being ranked and playoff teams at different times as well as each meeting being the defacto league championship game or having title ramifications, the HC-Fordham series has organically grown into a great rivalry the last few years. Let's hope that continues no matter when the game is played. Colgate is 213 miles from Bucknell and 230 miles from HC. They probably don't care which one they get hitched to. Agree. To the extent Colgate’s got a football rivalry game up there it is most likely Cornell.Particular opponent for the last game of PL play is no biggee for them. Fordham v HC is a good regular season ender.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on May 28, 2024 15:29:02 GMT -5
It'd be interesting to poll who current and former players consider (say, from the last 20 years) our top rival, followed by second rival, and then third rival.
I imagine we'd see some combination of Fordham, Colgate, Harvard, and maybe one of the L's.
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Post by CHC8485 on May 28, 2024 15:52:25 GMT -5
If we're just talking football, I'd want Fordham too as the final game of the year.
But I bring up Colgate as a way to build a rivalry across the school, not just 1 week a year. Kinda hard to do that when a team only plays one sport in your conference.
And despite the Turnpike Trophy, without football and only competing in 17 PL sports - BU ain't a rivalry.
Therefore, Colgate is my vote in Football and all sports.
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Post by sader1970 on May 28, 2024 16:12:29 GMT -5
Hopefully my final comment on the subject.
As far as I know, there is never anything official or something anyone votes for. Instead, it just becomes organic over time that people on both sides accept as a given.
Army-Navy. Holy Cross-BC. Auburn-Alabama.
One can’t force or vote in a rivalry.
That’s clearly evident in the failed effort to make HC-BU a rivalry.
I agree the Colgate folks probably think if they have a rival, it is Cornell with their relative proximity. I am not sure who Fordham folks think is their rival.
I’m guessing that Fordham fans would be closer to thinking HC as a rival than Colgate fans.
In this day and age with all the switching of leagues and conferences, it’s pretty tough to have and keep a rivalry.
What seems to happen now is individual teams think one or two opponents are rivals but other teams might think a different school is their rival.
🤷🏻♂️
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Post by purple1 on May 29, 2024 9:26:32 GMT -5
Holy Cross / Colgate would be a great rivalry to continue with football game as the season finale. Both schools are so similar. They could also schedule hockey annually to complete rivalry expectations.
Fordham has only football in its rivalry with Holy Cross - limited to the Fall season. Good game, but no real rivalry overtures.......
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 29, 2024 9:38:55 GMT -5
Fordham views HC as it's main rival.
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Post by rgs318 on May 29, 2024 9:57:23 GMT -5
I do remember some year's back when Fordham men's hoop coach announced that the Rams would no longer be playing HC because, as he said, HC could not really provide them with good competition. Shortly after that his team lost to Holy Cross. Nice response by the Crusaders.
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Post by rgs318 on May 29, 2024 9:59:13 GMT -5
Fordham views HC as it's main rival. Is that based primarily on football?
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 29, 2024 10:13:55 GMT -5
Fordham views HC as it's main rival. Is that based primarily on football? That and the fact that they don't really have any semblance of a rivalry in the A-10. Maybe with UMASS gone, URI and Fordham will try and manufacture a "Rams v. Rams" I-95 rivalry. If Fordham and HC played each other in hoops every year, it would become at least as big a game as "Battle of the Bronx" against Manhattan, which is probably the closest thing Fordham has to an annual rivalry game. St. John's-Fordham every year would be great but won't happen.
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Post by rgs318 on May 29, 2024 10:23:38 GMT -5
I imagine that would be similar to the St.Peter's-Rutgers or Seton Hall-Rutgers games in hoops in NJ.
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Post by longsuffering on May 29, 2024 10:46:50 GMT -5
Fordham views HC as it's main rival. In that case Fordham Football fans are mighty parched. The Rams have had good recent success except against HC. Laffy crashed the exclusive Ram-Crusader title race last year. Fordham must be seeing 2024 as a year of opportunity to grab an auto-bid before Richmond joins, as every PL team should be.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 29, 2024 11:00:32 GMT -5
I imagine that would be similar to the St.Peter's-Rutgers or Seton Hall-Rutgers games in hoops in NJ. Or like Providence-URI.
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Post by longsuffering on May 29, 2024 11:15:31 GMT -5
UMass-UNH used to be big before UMass bet the farm on FBS.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 29, 2024 11:19:30 GMT -5
UMass-UNH used to be big before UMass bet the farm on FBS. Especially towards the very end of the series. Before that, I think UMass was paired with Northeastern for rivalry week and URI with Hofstra. I could be wrong.
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Post by Chu Chu on May 29, 2024 12:28:20 GMT -5
I do remember some year's back when Fordham men's hoop coach announced that the Rams would no longer be playing HC because, as he said, HC could not really provide them with good competition. Shortly after that his team lost to Holy Cross. Nice response by the Crusaders. This is obvious nonsense from the Fordham coach! Since 2000, Holy Cross and Fordham have played against each other in seven basketball games. Holy Cross has won six of them.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on May 29, 2024 19:05:28 GMT -5
I do remember some year's back when Fordham men's hoop coach announced that the Rams would no longer be playing HC because, as he said, HC could not really provide them with good competition. Shortly after that his team lost to Holy Cross. Nice response by the Crusaders. This is obvious nonsense from the Fordham coach! Since 2000, Holy Cross and Fordham have played against each other in seven basketball games. Holy Cross has won six of them. Men's and Women's? Or just Men's? We lost to Fordham in November 2022 at Rose Hill in a "tournament". The last meeting in Men's was in December 2005 I believe -- a HC win at Hart. I think it was a buzzer beater by frosh Colin Cunningham. This should be an every year game. Both fan bases would be into it.
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Post by crusader12 on May 30, 2024 7:13:47 GMT -5
"Amity, as you know, means friendship."
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