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Post by sader1970 on Jun 6, 2024 7:22:24 GMT -5
From DP:
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Post by hchoops on Jun 6, 2024 7:30:48 GMT -5
Good luck to RJ. He will be missed.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jun 6, 2024 8:00:14 GMT -5
Great letter from Coach Paulsen, but the 18% giving rate from basketball alums is just so disappointing
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Post by Ray on Jun 6, 2024 8:24:04 GMT -5
Northern Ky is coached by Darrin Horn, who's out of the Willard tree (played for Ralph at WKU, before eventually having a successful head coaching run there.
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 6, 2024 8:45:10 GMT -5
Great letter from Coach Paulsen, but the 18% giving rate from basketball alums is just so disappointing Ah, as one of those who has to shake the money tree for Holy Cross, it is more than a "little disappointing." I didn't realize it was that low overall. As I've posted before, 20 +/- years ago when I became Class Chair, the staff informed me that some of the lowest giving percentages among alums was from those who had gone to HC on athletic scholarships. I found that to be true among my Classmates but over the years, I can happily say that that percentage rose dramatically - at least for my Class. My focus was on the football players as I believe we only had 2 basketball players.
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Post by trimster on Jun 6, 2024 10:45:43 GMT -5
Great letter from Coach Paulsen, but the 18% giving rate from basketball alums is just so disappointing Ah, as one of those who has to shake the money tree for Holy Cross, it is more than a "little disappointing." I didn't realize it was that low overall. As I've posted before, 20 +/- years ago when I became Class Chair, the staff informed me that some of the lowest giving percentages among alums was from those who had gone to HC on athletic scholarships. I found that to be true among my Classmates but over the years, I can happily say that that percentage rose dramatically - at least for my Class. My focus was on the football players as I believe we only had 2 basketball players. It is kind of pathetic a group that in large part, got a free ride to HC, chooses not to contribute financially to the annual fund.
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Post by Tom on Jun 6, 2024 11:05:26 GMT -5
Ah, as one of those who has to shake the money tree for Holy Cross, it is more than a "little disappointing." I didn't realize it was that low overall. As I've posted before, 20 +/- years ago when I became Class Chair, the staff informed me that some of the lowest giving percentages among alums was from those who had gone to HC on athletic scholarships. I found that to be true among my Classmates but over the years, I can happily say that that percentage rose dramatically - at least for my Class. My focus was on the football players as I believe we only had 2 basketball players. It is kind of pathetic a group that in large part, got a free ride to HC, chooses not to contribute financially to the annual fund. Just to be fair, I should point out that does not exclude the possibility that the percentage of former players giving to the school is higher, but some are only giving the regular annual fund and not the CAF. I have no clue how many people fit in that category, but I would guess there are some who do. New this year, but also possible that some former players are giving to the new NIL collective instead of the CAF. I'm not saying the percentage is near 50 %, but the wording suggests the percentage giving back somehow to the school could be higher
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Post by trimster on Jun 6, 2024 11:31:45 GMT -5
Good point especially if former athletes want to show their support for HC on a broader scale than for a specific sport or the athletic program in general.
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 6, 2024 12:55:39 GMT -5
Over the years I have given this issue some thought. My initial reaction was that those who didn't have to pay for their education perhaps might not value it as much as those who had to work their way through school; take out loans that took 10+ years to pay off, etc.
The response from some of these full-ride athletes was that they felt that they had paid their debt to the school, so to speak, with the many hours that they put in practicing, playing, for the honor and benefit of Holy Cross.
My "guys" also happened to have gone to Holy Cross in a time of great controversies that approached, maybe exceeded, what we are going through now. I concluded that there were probably as many reasons for the lack of financial support of the College as there were Classmates.
That said, I have a ton of Classmates who were successful doctors, dentists, lawyers who also give little or nothing to the College. In our years on campus, Holy Cross was consistently ranked in the top 3 undergrad pre-med programs in the country and without a doubt was a significant contributing factor to them becoming doctors. Some likely incurred major loan burdens both as undergrads at HC and in their post-grad medical training. But they probably paid those loans off quicker than the rest of us.
But until we walk a mile in another's shoes, to quote the current Vatican City guy, "who am I to judge?"
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Post by Chu Chu on Jun 6, 2024 14:01:57 GMT -5
Overall, that was just an outstanding letter from Coach Paulson. Tremendously informative and passionate and optimistic!
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 6, 2024 14:06:28 GMT -5
Speaking of donations or lack thereof, this was one of my favorite stories in the times that I worked trying to get donations, not just at Holy Cross, and my co-money tree shakers would get frustrated. This always brought a smile if not a belly laugh:
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 6, 2024 14:08:54 GMT -5
Oh, here's Coach Paulsen's letter for those who did not receive it:
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 6, 2024 17:27:54 GMT -5
Now that I have shamed you, I look forward to seeing you next time you are on campus.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 6, 2024 18:39:44 GMT -5
Bill Carmody started at HC 40 years after graduating from Union. Dave Paulsen started at HC 36 years after graduating from Williams. Both brought impressive resumes. Quite a difference in apparent intensity though.
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 6, 2024 19:14:29 GMT -5
Bill Carmody started at HC 40 years after graduating from Union. Dave Paulsen started at HC 36 years after graduating from Williams. Both brought impressive resumes. Quite a difference in apparent intensity though. Now you see what a difference 4 years makes?
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Post by hc6774 on Jun 7, 2024 5:46:18 GMT -5
Oh, here's Coach Paulsen's letter for those who did not receive it: From the late 90's, I seem to recall an announcement at it's annual dinner that a President's Council member endowed 2 bball scholarships.
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Post by hc17 on Jun 7, 2024 7:41:31 GMT -5
Wonder who Paulsen will have lined up to backfill the position….seems like Ted and RJ did a lot of the recruiting with Bryson serving as DP’s right hand. A big hire…
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Post by rgs318 on Jun 7, 2024 8:49:51 GMT -5
DP's comments about RJ have always been most positive and his "farewell" was no less so. Our hoop coach is a classy guy and a growing asset for our growing program. I wonder if someone is already lined up for this important hire.
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Post by sader1970 on Jun 7, 2024 9:17:52 GMT -5
Would bet the house that DP already had someone in mind to replace RJ. I am not surprised that RJ moved on as my impression always was that his role was to help DP transition in to his Crusader role and Dave flat out states this. For RJ, "mission accomplished" and time to move on.
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Post by rgs318 on Jun 7, 2024 9:30:37 GMT -5
Since new hires often bring aboard a recruit with whom they have a relationship. My next question would then be, "When the new hire is announced, who might we see as a possible recruit? Size?"
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Post by hc17 on Jun 7, 2024 9:31:04 GMT -5
Dane Fischer has to be the first call?
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Post by Tom on Jun 7, 2024 9:48:56 GMT -5
1) Assistant coaches come and go. Coach Willard even said that if an assistant stays around too long, he's not doing a good job of preparing them
2) There's something to be said for a hold over guy to ease with transition. I get the impression Coach Paulsen will always say the right thing to the public. Not a negative of either Coach Paulsen or Coach Evans, but I would not be shocked if it was kind of planned to have a prior regime transition guy in the short term prior to a full staff of "Coach Paulsen guys" I have no inside information that this is the case. Just idle (and now disclaimered) speculation.
All that being said, I'm a big fan of both RJ the coach and RJ the player and wish him all the best on his next stop
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sometimes at work, I type a post, get interrupted by the whole work thing, and finish much later. Sader1970 got a similar post off during one such period
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Post by HC92 on Jun 7, 2024 9:52:37 GMT -5
Dane Fischer has to be the first call? I have wondered whether this could happen since DP was hired. Fisher was obviously struggling at W&M when DP was hired. Now that he’s been let go by W&M, a reunion probably makes sense.
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Post by longsuffering on Jun 7, 2024 9:57:35 GMT -5
Dane Fischer has to be the first call? He was with Dave for NCAA years at Williams and Bucknell. At W&M he won with inherited players and then lost four years in a row but that may not be significant as an assistant coach.
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Post by hc17 on Jun 7, 2024 10:04:48 GMT -5
Dane Fischer has to be the first call? He was with Dave for NCAA years at Williams and Bucknell. At W&M he won with inherited players and then lost four years in a row but that may not be significant as an assistant coach. From Dane's point of view, I'd imagine his best chance at another top job is heading back to the PL/Ivy as an assistant. Could see him latch onto a program in the DMV outside the PL, but his resume would be attractive to high-academics down the road
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