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Post by hc6774 on Aug 1, 2024 13:15:43 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Aug 1, 2024 13:19:18 GMT -5
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Aug 1, 2024 14:02:03 GMT -5
Post by 78purple on Aug 1, 2024 14:02:03 GMT -5
St. Joe's in 2008. A10 was real good then, got 3 or 4 bids. If I have to guess another one, I'd go w/Providence in 1977. HC beat them to earn the auto bid to the dance, PC went as an at large. if that was the two game set called the ECAC tournament, they were two of the best 3 HC wins I ever saw in person, UConn and two days later PC. The third was beating BC at BC with Hochstein, Siudet, Murray I think, and a good lefty shooting guard Stan? ....ski. a terrific BC team. Best loss ever was a game we lost in the last seconds of OT at Boston Garden with Ron Perry leading a huge comeback and losing on a slow clock last second shot. It was the early period of the first sustained UConn good teams. Great game, heartbreaking loss. PC game for the autobid @ Hartford CC ?? Sonar Hassett and Soup Campbell had great games and we still beat them.......electric atmosphere
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Aug 1, 2024 14:54:17 GMT -5
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Post by timholycross on Aug 1, 2024 14:54:17 GMT -5
UConn missed the tournament that year. They were 16-4 (6-2) in February, but lost six of their last seven games to conclude the regular season and were NIT bound. I gave up and looked for the answer and am now annoyed I didn't get this historic matchup. What a Valentine's Day that was. Can't believe I missed that one. Had a shot to beat them twice that year...unfortunately, HC didn't take the so-called conference they were in seriously, ended up second; and had to win on the road to go to the dance. Perry Moss, ugh.
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Aug 1, 2024 14:54:21 GMT -5
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Post by hcnj on Aug 1, 2024 14:54:21 GMT -5
Great job hoops! Thanks, he was a tough player, barrel-chested guy and a consistent shooter who knew who the two stars were.
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Aug 1, 2024 14:55:50 GMT -5
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Post by hcnj on Aug 1, 2024 14:55:50 GMT -5
the ""ski" led me astray, thanks
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Aug 1, 2024 15:48:16 GMT -5
I gave up and looked for the answer and am now annoyed I didn't get this historic matchup. What a Valentine's Day that was. Can't believe I missed that one. Had a shot to beat them twice that year...unfortunately, HC didn't take the so-called conference they were in seriously, ended up second; and had to win on the road to go to the dance. Perry Moss, ugh. We've gone more than 24 hours and a couple have figured it out. Time to reveal it -- HC beat Boston College in February of 1981 for the second most recent win against a team who earned an at-large bid to the tournament. BC advanced to the Sweet 16 that season.
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Aug 1, 2024 16:01:25 GMT -5
Post by alum on Aug 1, 2024 16:01:25 GMT -5
Can't believe I missed that one. Had a shot to beat them twice that year...unfortunately, HC didn't take the so-called conference they were in seriously, ended up second; and had to win on the road to go to the dance. Perry Moss, ugh. We've gone more than 24 hours and a couple have figured it out. Time to reveal it -- HC beat Boston College in February of 1981 for the second most recent win against a team who earned an at-large bid to the tournament. BC advanced to the Sweet 16 that season. This was the day after the SI story about point shaving broke.
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Aug 2, 2024 8:09:03 GMT -5
Post by timholycross on Aug 2, 2024 8:09:03 GMT -5
We've gone more than 24 hours and a couple have figured it out. Time to reveal it -- HC beat Boston College in February of 1981 for the second most recent win against a team who earned an at-large bid to the tournament. BC advanced to the Sweet 16 that season. This was the day after the SI story about point shaving broke. Remember one play in that game very well.
BC had a J. Floyd/Caleb Kenney leaper type named Burnett Adams, who ended up with the ball about a foot from the basket face-to-face with Ernie Floyd. Floyd resoundingly blocked the guy's shot, and the place went crazy. Seemed to ignite HC that afternoon.
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Aug 2, 2024 12:20:08 GMT -5
Post by breezy on Aug 2, 2024 12:20:08 GMT -5
The third was beating BC at BC with Hochstein, Siudet, Murray I think, and a good lefty shooting guard Stan? . I think you are thinking of Al Stazinski -- a good guy (who was, at least in part, responsible for creating my nickname "Breezy").
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Aug 2, 2024 12:23:06 GMT -5
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 2, 2024 12:23:06 GMT -5
The third was beating BC at BC with Hochstein, Siudet, Murray I think, and a good lefty shooting guard Stan? . I think you are thinking of Al Stazinski -- a good guy (who was, at least in part, responsible for creating my nickname "Breezy"). Wasn’t it because you found it just a breeze to ace even the toughest courses?
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Post by breezy on Aug 2, 2024 12:26:22 GMT -5
Well, even if that were true, that's not the real story.
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Post by trimster on Aug 2, 2024 12:36:05 GMT -5
Worcester's own. I believe he played on the 1964 St. Mary's High team that won the New England Championship. I think he scored 850 or so points in his 3 varsity seasons at HC.
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Post by breezy on Aug 2, 2024 12:44:54 GMT -5
In the January 1968 game against UCLA at Madison Square Garden, Al Stazinski hit a jump shot that gave HC an early 4-2 lead. As I recall, that was our only lead in the game.
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Aug 2, 2024 13:57:45 GMT -5
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Post by hcnj on Aug 2, 2024 13:57:45 GMT -5
In the January 1968 game against UCLA at Madison Square Garden, Al Stazinski hit a jump shot that gave HC an early 4-2 lead. As I recall, that was our only lead in the game. thanks all for the remembrances of Al. Breezy, it was a beat down as you too remember. But wasn't Gerry Foley also on that team and from Worcester. I seem to remember he had some modest point total and rebounds but for him, and relative to our disappointing showing, stood out a bit. I think BC played them very tough just after us. Weren't we UCLA's first or second game after their win streak was ended by Houston?
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Post by breezy on Aug 2, 2024 14:32:01 GMT -5
It was the first game for UCLA after they lost to Houston the previous weekend.
Gerry Foley was also on that team. I don't remember whether he was prominent in that game. (I was happy to see Gerry at our 50th reunion 5 years ago.) My other vivid memories of the game. HC was behind 48-32 at the half, and the final score was 90-67. At the beginning of the game, Kareem started by guarding Ed Siudut, but when UCLA realized that Ed was an outside shooter and Keith Hochstein was the low post threat, Kareem switched to guarding Keith. There was one sequence where Keith tried for a layup, was blocked by Karem, got the ball back and tried again, another Kareem block, and then he went up a third time and was able to score.
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Aug 2, 2024 14:54:51 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Aug 2, 2024 14:54:51 GMT -5
Typical of Keith, and Kareem
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Aug 2, 2024 16:05:12 GMT -5
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 2, 2024 16:05:12 GMT -5
Sat right under one of the baskets.
My takeaway - not statistically- but expectation-wise was our guards played exceptionally well against the two All-Americans including Hill Street Blues, Warren.
Alcindor was the main difference once he got going. And, yes, will bring up again how Ron T left our program before the season started as at 6’9” many thought he’d have a better shot handling Alcindor.
I’ve posted multiple times in the past that Lew seemed perplexed at his NY homecoming that there were so many people rooting for the Crusaders and not the hometown kid.
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Aug 2, 2024 17:08:46 GMT -5
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Post by hchoops on Aug 2, 2024 17:08:46 GMT -5
I have never seen a better college backcourt than Michael Warren and Lucius Allen. (Next may be Gail Goodrich and Walt Hazzard) You write that many thought that Texeira would have had a better chance of handling Alcindor than Siudut or Hochstein Well, no one in college and very few in the pros could handle Lew/Kareem
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 2, 2024 18:34:51 GMT -5
On campus, I was not the only one who felt disappointed that Ron quit before that season. I fully understand your support for your classmate but the height differential was simply too great. Not at all saying that Lew wouldn't have bested Ron but strongly believe the differential would have been smaller. Not enough to win, of course, but to make the final results a bit more respectable. But, we'll never know.
And yes, no one handled Lew except in the game immediately before ours when UCLA played against Houston. And, in the rematch, he showed that was a fluke.
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Aug 2, 2024 18:42:03 GMT -5
Post by hchoops on Aug 2, 2024 18:42:03 GMT -5
On campus, I was not the only one who felt disappointed that Ron quit before that season. I fully understand your support for your classmate but the height differential was simply too great. Not at all saying that Lew wouldn't have bested Ron but strongly believe the differential would have been smaller. Not enough to win, of course, but to make the final results a bit more respectable. But, we'll never know. And yes, no one handled Lew except in the game immediately before ours when UCLA played against Houston. And, in the rematch, he showed that was a fluke. Lew played that loss vs Houston with an eye injury. I had graduated in June, 1967, so none of these HC players was my classmate.
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Aug 2, 2024 19:14:15 GMT -5
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Aug 2, 2024 19:14:15 GMT -5
Elvin Hayes averaged 37 points and 19 rebounds per game that season. I can’t recall how his stats compared with Kareem’s in that epic game. I believe that game, in the Astrodome, had the largest attendance for any basketball game in history. I don’t know if/when that mark was surpassed.
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Post by Xmassader on Aug 3, 2024 13:38:59 GMT -5
Like hchoops and sader1970, I was at MSG for the HC-UCLA game. Considering that the game was the next game after UCLA’s only loss of the year, Lew’s return to NYC and the absence of Teixeira, the 23 pt. final margin was neither ugly nor surprising. UCLA’s margin of victory that season was greater in 20 of its 29 wins, including ND, Wichita State and one of its NCAA tournament wins.
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Post by sader1970 on Aug 3, 2024 16:28:30 GMT -5
I have often said that this was the closest 23 point loss that I've ever witnessed. Seriously, we all knew going into the game that after the Houston loss that UCLA was going to prove to the masses that they were indeed #1 and Houston was a fluke and on-campus discussions were that the Vegas betting line would have us as 50-60 point underdogs. We went on an 8 game winning streak after this loss including wins over BC, Fordham, Syracuse, UMass, UConn and Providence: 1/26 U.C.L.A. (2) N6 L, 67-90 1/30 Boston University A W, 71-66 2/3 Boston College A W, 89-82 2/7 Fordham H W, 85-76 2/10 Syracuse H W, 95-79 2/14 Massachusetts A W, 70-69 2/17 Assumption H W, 91-77 2/22 Connecticut (ot) A W, 86-85 2/24 Providence A W, 64-62 2/27 St. John’s A L, 67-83 3/2 Boston College H L, 87-90 By way of an analogy, when I played baseball and we put a donut weight on the bat while on deck so that the bat seemed to be lighter when we got up to bat, UCLA was like that baseball donut. After that game, the following opponents just didn't seem nearly as tough.
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Post by breezy on Aug 3, 2024 16:56:25 GMT -5
I have often said that this was the closest 23 point loss that I've ever witnessed. Seriously, we all knew going into the game that after the Houston loss that UCLA was going to prove to the masses that they were indeed #1 and Houston was a fluke and on-campus discussions were that the Vegas betting line would have us as 50-60 point underdogs. We went on an 8 game winning streak after this loss including wins over BC, Fordham, Syracuse, UMass, UConn and Providence: 1/26 U.C.L.A. (2) N6 L, 67-90 1/30 Boston University A W, 71-66 2/3 Boston College A W, 89-82 2/7 Fordham H W, 85-76 2/10 Syracuse H W, 95-79 2/14 Massachusetts A W, 70-69 2/17 Assumption H W, 91-77 2/22 Connecticut (ot) A W, 86-85 2/24 Providence A W, 64-62 2/27 St. John’s A L, 67-83 3/2 Boston College H L, 87-90 By way of an analogy, when I played baseball and we put a donut weight on the bat while on deck so that the bat seemed to be lighter when we got up to bat, UCLA was like that baseball donut. After that game, the following opponents just didn't seem nearly as tough. I have highlighted the first Boston College game. That was the only basketball victory for HC over the Eagles during my four years on the Hill. If I recall correctly, Keith Hochstein and Ed Siudut each scored 30 points in that victory.
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