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Post by td128 on Apr 29, 2018 6:10:24 GMT -5
A longstanding and now retired member of the Jesuit community recently shared this comment in regard to Professor Liew: "What a knucklehead. He was brought on against the recommendation of most members of the Jesuit community at Holy Cross."
Put that on a low simmer and stir periodically.
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Post by td128 on Apr 29, 2018 5:45:37 GMT -5
Do not mean to piss in anybody's Wheaties on a Sunday morning but I found this comment shared by a student with me recently to be of interest. As stated by a professor at Holy Cross: "Well, at least we got them to do away with the image of the Crusader. Hopefully we can come back in 4 to 5 years and have them do away with the name as well."
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Post by td128 on Apr 10, 2018 16:17:16 GMT -5
sader1970,
I can feel your pain and I share it. I applaud you for your longstanding support of Alma Mater and the eloquent manner in which you state your perspectives on the current developments. I fully and wholeheartedly concur.
Many who frequent these parts may -- or may not -- perhaps not appreciate the very real pain I think we and countless longstanding Crusaders share. IMO, the pain stems from the challenge we face in continuing to try to elevate the good name of Alma Mater while we feel the current powers that be fail to uphold the mission, virtues, and good name that is and was their charge upon assuming office.
I know countless Crusaders who truly feel pained by all that has transpired and the lack of any meaningful and formative response by the college. As the pain lingers and the college seemingly hopes that this too shall pass, the end result is decidedly unpleasant.
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Post by td128 on Apr 9, 2018 16:38:56 GMT -5
At what point do you gentlemen propose we just take the crosses off the walls and exhume the Jesuit founders along with a host of other secular progressions?
I mean, now that we have justified blasphemy under the cover of academic freedom, we might as well go full bore and stop the charade, right?
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Post by td128 on Apr 9, 2018 7:01:26 GMT -5
By the way, if one consults Father K.’s book at page 380 and following, one can learn that these type of issues date to the 1960s at Holy Cross. God bless Fr. K, a fabulous Jesuit priest, a true Crusader and loyal son of Holy Cross. A quick check of Thy Honored Name does reveal that there was debate at the college regarding the teaching of religion and theology and how more non-Jesuits should be introduced to the department. That said, the index of Fr. K's' fabulous book jumps from Blaney to Blenkinsop and provides no reference to blasphemy.
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Post by td128 on Apr 8, 2018 12:18:01 GMT -5
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Post by td128 on Apr 8, 2018 9:52:23 GMT -5
MM67,
Thank you for your love of Alma Mater. Your love and that of all Crusaders is what makes our college truly great.
I think you are confusing or mixing up the views by journalists with those expressed here by alumni. Perhaps I have overlooked but I have not seen any alumni stating that prospective students should not attend HC. In regard to sharing commentaries, I hope that you do not think that if a commentary written by a journalist is not posted here at Crossports that it does not mean that it will not spread across the internet and blogosphere. Would seem that the college Mission Statement itself professes that more communication not less is healthy in terms of advancing our community.
If you are specifically concerned about what I write here, I have regular dialogue with those atop MSJ, express my agreement or disagreement accordingly, and am unwavering in my support via time, talent, and treasure and encourage others to do the same. All that said, I will never be blindly loyal as some both on and off campus would seem alumni should behave.
Additionally, I welcome sharing with you that in regard to my most recent post, the most senior members of the Jesuit community at Holy Cross at that time (these individuals were credited with largely building the college in its current form) were expressly grateful for the pursuit of the truth which was addressed.
The damage, fortunately averted, would have been unquantifiable.
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Post by td128 on Apr 8, 2018 5:04:06 GMT -5
Been scouring that Mission Statement too looking for where it talks about blasphemy. If you find that section, please send it along.
Also for those who would seem to think that love of Holy Cross requires blind loyalty, that is not how I define love, nor did that requirement ever come up in any of my classes at Holy Cross in which we discussed pursuit of the truth. I broached this very point of loyalty and love with a senior administrator at the college just last week and whether those who professed love for Alma Mater should have seriously questioned and pursued the truth regarding Gerry Reedy's statements on "reconciling culture and faith." I might guess that some here would view Professor Liew's statements and those legitimizing them in the same light. Yes? No?
As indicated previously, decorum prevents entering into specifics regarding the 30th president of our college but given that a full two decades have passed since GR's departure from MSJ I would guess that the statute of limitations has expired in terms of commenting on that period. If you care to understand broadly speaking what transpired under Reedy and the activities/efforts under the umbrella of "reconciliation" look in the dictionary between "frau" and "fraught." Not likely to see the term truth in and around there or only perhaps in a negative or perverse light.
Thanks for broaching these points so we can all collectively pursue the truth together.
Truly love being a Crusader.
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Post by td128 on Apr 7, 2018 12:06:08 GMT -5
Protests across from HC on the hill: mail.aol.com/webmail/getPart?uid=31020661&partId=2&scope=STANDARD&saveAs=IMG_4191.JPEGFor those who might want to zoom in, a number of signs read: "I'm Catholic, Stop Attacking My Faith" Organized and led by American Society for the Defense of Tradition, Defense, and Property: www.tfp.org/In this organization's magazine, they published the other day: www.tfp.org/no-excuse-possible-for-anti-jesus-views-of-professor-at-catholic-college/If Prof. Liew speaks without fear of dismissal from a Jesuit college, it is because he knows there are many others in Catholic academia who think similarly. He knows there is collusion for his academic license. He knows his colleagues harbor sympathy for his ability to show off his outlandish beliefs. He knows that he is not shunned or ostracized by his academic peers for his unorthodox views. He knows that he continues tranquilly to chair his New Testament Studies department at a Jesuit-run university.
Also, he knows there are administrators who certainly have heard of his offensive positions and activities. And he knows they do not fire him or remove him from his rostrum of influence over the souls and salvation of young Catholics.
No, Prof. Liew is not alone in his heretical views on Jesus. His training and education must have had those of similar mind who encouraged him in his research and writing. He quotes others with equally twisted interpretations of Scripture. It is impossible not to conclude that significant sectors of the Catholic teaching establishment have long been undermined by those holding and openly espousing unorthodox positions. Things now have reached a point where once hidden views are unashamedly promoted.
Similar considerations can be made about others associated with the theological formation that Prof. Liew today imparts including those bishops and priests that gave free reign to such licentious and false studies.
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Post by td128 on Apr 5, 2018 11:45:31 GMT -5
Don't bet on it. As I shared with some senior level people on and off campus and based on interactions I have had with others, "I hope Fr. Boroughs and the board do not underestimate just how strongly the alumni feel as to what has transpired. I believe they do so at considerable peril."
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Post by td128 on Apr 5, 2018 11:26:43 GMT -5
Not that I answer to you or anybody else as to how I manage my time or relationships with those on the hill but I welcome sharing this message that went out this past Monday.
On Mon, Apr 2, 2018 at 10:33 AM, Larry Doyle <lwdoyle128@aol.com> wrote: Hi LuAnn,
Hope you had a beautiful and blessed Easter. I look forward to seeing you at the spring game barbecue in less than two weeks.
With April upon us, I would like to collect the requisite information from the rising sophomore class so we can roll out the 2018 '90-Wide' Mentoring Program before the school year ends in May.
Could you solicit the following info from the rising sophomores and any transfers who have come into the program over the last year so I can pair these Crusaders with respective mentors? If you could create an Excel file for this info, that would be most beneficial and helpful in completing these pairings. I greatly appreciate your consideration.
Let's Win!!
Larry
2018 '90-Wide' Mentoring
Name: Hometown: Football Position: Major or Potential Major: (ok to state Undecided and simply provide thoughts as to potential direction of study) Career Interest: (again, ok to state Undecided and simply provide thoughts as to potential direction of career interest) Email address: Cell Phone:
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Post by td128 on Apr 5, 2018 11:17:12 GMT -5
No need for safe spaces for me nor ever need nor want a pat on the back.
Have always been exceedingly comfortable to stand up and call the balls, strikes, fakers, and frauds like I see them. I have also welcomed committing endless time to mentoring countless Crusaders, raising funds, and advancing the good name of Alma Mater.
lwdoyle128@aol.com
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Post by td128 on Apr 5, 2018 10:19:25 GMT -5
A total failure of leadership.
If this blasphemy is in fact covered under the cloak of academic freedom (which I do not buy especially after rereading it), then a real leader would have come out and denounced it in the ABSOLUTELY STRONGEST possible terms, stated that it is fully inconsistent with the Catholic values espoused and promoted at Holy Cross, but then defended his right to say it or write it.
What have we gotten or seen from our leaders? PB et al turned turtle. Our college has taken a HUGE hit of immeasurable impact in the process.
Situations such as these strike me as HUGE RED FLAGS not dissimilar to statements and actions put forth by Gerry Reedy regarding his attempts to "reconcile culture and faith." Decorum prevents me from commenting further on that disaster.
My better half (not an HC grad but bleeds Purple with the best of them) reacted to reading the Telegram's article this morning with this assessment:
"Well, . . . there goes your college."
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Post by td128 on Apr 5, 2018 8:59:37 GMT -5
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Post by td128 on Apr 5, 2018 7:53:40 GMT -5
Professor Scharfer is not paying attention... I would find it astounding (if) I were an alumnus of Yeshiva University and they had hired somebody to teach the things about Moses that this theologian says about Jesus. I found it astounding As has been reported many times already, Liew was not hired to teach what he wrote in that chapter 10 years ago Lou, let's think this through a little. Are we supposed to blindly accept statements and spin (biblical scholarship? . . . I just vomited again) put forth by individuals who are clearly under pressure in terms of explaining how this sort of blasphemy might find a home at Holy Cross? Really? I am not buying that and I do not think that you or anybody else should either. Do you think that perhaps Professor Schaefer over the years has witnessed the sharing of ideas and the propagation of the mindset behind the writings in Professor Liew's scholarship (just vomited again) both by Liew and others? Come on, that is exactly what Professor Schaefer is telling us in making this statement: "I want to emphasize what is quoted from this man’s writing is the same kind of approach that has infiltrated what are broadly called the humanities across the United States.”
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Post by td128 on Apr 5, 2018 6:48:00 GMT -5
I applaud Professor Schaefer for standing up and speaking out. Hope springs eternal. The paper’s faculty adviser, David L. Schaefer, professor of political science at Holy Cross, said: “I would be inclined to guess that this is the biggest scoop the Fenwick Review has run in 28 years.”
He said the paper’s editors in recent years have been particularly concerned with religious and theological topics. “They are taking these issues seriously and I think they did uncover a major problem here,” Mr. Schaefer said. “I’m Jewish, so as the saying goes, I don’t have a dog in this fight, except indirectly as a longtime faculty member concerned with the reputation of the college.”
“Speaking as an outsider, I can only make the analogy as a Jew: I would find it astounding (if) I were an alumnus of Yeshiva University and they had hired somebody to teach the things about Moses that this theologian says about Jesus. I found it astounding,” he said.
Mr. Schaefer, who has taught at Holy Cross for 42 years, added: “I want to emphasize what is quoted from this man’s writing is the same kind of approach that has infiltrated what are broadly called the humanities across the United States.”
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Post by td128 on Apr 5, 2018 6:37:30 GMT -5
Don't think for a second that many people are not watching this situation very closely and that those who would like to continue to advance a very secular form of progression at HC and elsewhere aren't taking notes.
Biblical scholarship? Really? A new low in terms of spin. Dean Frieje and anybody else who would define this as "scholarship" should be ashamed. Additionally, we have clearly learned that there is now NO line of demarcation at HC in terms of what is allowed and acceptable under the cover of academic freedom, at least in terms of spewing heinous blasphemy upon our Catholic faith.
And yes, HCpride is totally right. Those who might care to mock others -- and don't think that they might not try after witnessing this fiasco -- under the cover of academic freedom or otherwise would likely be dressed down and summarily dismissed, and probably justifiably so. That said, I believe it is naive to think that other assaults on our Catholic faith won't be forthcoming. When that transpires (a question of when not if), we can and will look back on this experience and say we saw iterations of this real life movie before. Perhaps these assaults might be cloaked or delivered in a surreptitious fashion but when a real foundation is shown to be lacking those inclined to sow such vile blasphemy will navigate accordingly.
I believe that HC will lose many supporters as a result of this sad saga. For the truly faithful, I encourage you to remain on guard, although seems readily apparent that we need to look both forward while also watching our backs. Hard to believe but in light of all that has transpired in the world, again perhaps not surprising. Evidence of our Lord being mocked is widely displayed including in this passage: Matthew 27:40-41: "You who are going to destroy the temple and rebuild it in three days, save Yourself! If You are the Son of God, come down from the cross." In the same way the chief priests also, along with the scribes and elders, were mocking Him and saying, "He saved others; He cannot save Himself. He is the King of Israel; let Him now come down from the cross, and we will believe in Him."
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Post by td128 on Apr 4, 2018 17:34:41 GMT -5
Even if you do not watch the entire 40 minute clip, do yourself the favor and go to the 29 minute mark and watch/listen to Worcester Telegram sports reporter Nick Manzello talk about Gordie Lockbaum.
#priceless
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Post by td128 on Apr 4, 2018 17:23:44 GMT -5
Just a thought. What if we reverse the Crusader decision and put the professor out to pasture, would we have a backlash in the other direction? What would people put the over/under at in terms of the number of people who would speak out in a meaningful fashion and deride (dare I say, mock) the college if these decisions were reversed? As a frame of reference, I think there were 50 individuals on campus (a combo of faculty and students) who wrote a letter criticizing the choice to keep the Crusader name. I have been informed that Professor Liew was one of those individuals. Back to the over/under? I'll open with a locked market at 150 (120 faculty, 20 students, 10 alumni) Who's buying, who's selling?
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Post by td128 on Apr 4, 2018 16:38:22 GMT -5
Saturday Night Live launched the careers of some of America's best-known comedians, including Steve Martin, Ben Stiller, Eddie Murphy, Billy Crystal, Chevy Chase, John Belushi, Will Ferrell and—more recently—Amy Poehler, Tina Fey and Kristen Wiig. But Christians across the country were not amused last weekend when the comedy show aired a skit spoofing the new film God's Not Dead 2.
For many of us, SNL and broadcaster NBC crossed a line. The skit, which mocked traditional Christian values had a sarcastic tone that was meant to demean people of faith. Veteran actor Pat Boone, who has a minor role in God's Not Dead 2, told The Hollywood Reporter this week that the SNL skit was "outright sacrilege."
"Satan ridicules faith, and they are taking Satan's side," Boone said of the show's producers.
And while the SNL skit characterized Christians as bigots, it was itself a blatant form of bigotry. The show's producers may think Christians are hypocrites because we hold conservative views on marriage, but denigrating an entire faith community is hypocritical, too.
The definition of mock is "to tease or laugh at in a scornful or contemptuous manner." Sorry, SNL, but Pat Boone isn't the only guy who's not laughing at this crude joke. A lot of people in this country don't think SNL is funny anymore.
I'm not going to launch a boycott of NBC or call for protests in front of the show's studios in New York. Instead, I'm going to do what Jesus told us to do when people ridicule our faith. Here are three simple guidelines the New Testament gives us:
1. Don't get defensive. We should not be shocked when non-Christians mock our beliefs. Jesus was mocked when He was crucified, and He told us that people would hate us because we follow Him. This is the high cost of being a disciple. When we embrace Christianity, we give up the hope of being popular. I don't live for the world's approval, and it's crazy to expect people who have not had a personal encounter with Christ to respect my faith or applaud my morality.
Second Peter 3:3 says in the last days, "mockers will come with their mocking, following after their own lusts." A common characteristic of this fallen world is mockery. Unbelievers sometimes mock God, take His name in vain, attack the Bible, make fun of churches and ridicule anyone who follows Jesus. Persecution should never come as a surprise to you. Don't be shocked when it happens! Paul wrote: "All who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will suffer persecution" (2 Tim. 3:12).
2. Never lash out in anger. In this world of social media outrage and shout-a-thon talk shows, we Christians think we have the right to jump in the ring and scream like everyone else to prove our point. But that wasn't Jesus' strategy when He was arrested, stripped naked, scourged and interrogated. When Jesus was being reviled, 1 Peter 2:23 says, "He did not revile back; when He suffered, He did not threaten."
Jesus either answered plainly or kept His mouth shut. He trusted the Father to vindicate Him. If you are mocked for your faith, keep your cool and bite your lip. Don't let angry people push your button. God will give you wise words to say if you let His love control your tongue.
3. Pray for your enemies. Jesus said it best in Matthew 5:43-44: "You have heard that it was said, 'You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I say to you, love your enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you." How many of us actually obey that commandment?
Before you speak with a local abortionist or an atheist professor, adjust your heart before God. Jesus said we must (1) love those who attack us and (2) pray for them. Praying for those who are hostile to your beliefs will enable you see them from God's perspective. He loves people—even those who mock Him. So should we. After you've corrected your attitude, you are more likely to say words that are inspired by the Holy Spirit.
I've been mocked for my Christian faith many times over the years. I've been called narrow-minded, fanatical, judgmental, Puritanical, Medieval, homophobic, Neanderthal and several choice words I can't print here. I don't hate the people who said those things. Instead, I pray they will discover the same mercy I found in Christ—and I pray they find it before they face Him when this life is over.
J. Lee Grady was editor of Charisma for 11 years before he launched into full-time ministry in 2010. Today he directs The Mordecai Project, a Christian charitable organization that is taking the healing of Jesus to women and girls who suffer abuse and cultural oppression.
www.charismamag.com/blogs/fire-in-my-bones/26171-how-to-respond-when-your-faith-is-mocked
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Post by td128 on Apr 4, 2018 13:16:48 GMT -5
John Brooks and Frank Miller just rolled over.
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Post by td128 on Apr 3, 2018 19:31:56 GMT -5
After viewing the clip that Breezy linked to about Tom Ciaccio, this video immediately followed. If this has been shown before, sorry for missing it. This was produced in 1995 and runs for 40 minutes. Hosted by Bob Fouracre, it presents some incredible footage and interviews. The quality of the replays is very high. Crusaders across every era and especially from days of old when knights were bold will certainly enjoy it. Hard to believe that on the Youtube page it indicates that it only has 7 views. Enjoy!!
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Post by td128 on Apr 3, 2018 15:38:54 GMT -5
Do those links provide such descriptive analysis as Benny's cutting edge research? Do you care to copy/paste some of the more informative and enlightened research so we can further pursue the truth? Lastly, you might care to send those links and that 'cutting edge research" to Bishop McManus so he can be further informed and enlightened. worcesterdiocese.org/bishopI fully concur with the Bishop's assessment. PB is on the clock.
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Pro Day
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Post by td128 on Apr 3, 2018 14:58:51 GMT -5
Video Analysis on Peter Pujals:
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Post by td128 on Apr 3, 2018 13:01:03 GMT -5
Porter Moser: a man for others
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