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Post by trimster on Jan 3, 2018 12:57:51 GMT -5
Good points Dave. I watched half the game on the PLN and there seems to be a certain synergy missing. Guys look like they are playing tight, not having fun and like you said, not showing a lot of confidence.
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Post by cfrivals on Jan 3, 2018 13:49:26 GMT -5
Coaching!
If coach has given up on the team, what do you expect a young team to do.
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Post by hchoops on Jan 3, 2018 13:54:54 GMT -5
There is no evidence that the coach has given up on his team. NONE
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 3, 2018 14:09:25 GMT -5
If we had hit the expect 7 or 8 or 9 of our 24 three point attempts we'd have won by 3, 6, or 9 points. It was not Lafayette's defense that caused the misses
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jan 3, 2018 14:39:29 GMT -5
If we had hit the expect 7 or 8 or 9 of our 24 three point attempts we'd have won by 3, 6, or 9 points. It was not Lafayette's defense that caused the misses If we had held Petrie to under 40% from 3, they would have scored 12 less points. If ifs and buts were candy and nuts, every day would be Christmas.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 3, 2018 14:47:33 GMT -5
No kidding--have heard that a few times before. It's a simple fact: Holy Cross is not a horrible three point shooting team, but it had a horrible shooting night last night--these things happen. If we were to play this game 10 times I'd lay 20-1 odds that we'd not go 2/24 in any of those 10 games. We'd likely make 7-8-9 of 24 a half dozen times.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jan 3, 2018 14:54:43 GMT -5
No kidding--have heard that a few times before. It's a simple fact: Holy Cross is not a horrible three point shooting team, but it had a horrible shooting night last night--these things happen. If we were to play this game 10 times I'd lay 20-1 odds that we'd not go 2/24 in any of those 10 games. We'd likely make 7-8-9 of 24 a half dozen times. HC70 posited last night: Serious question. Do we have an afternoon shoot around? Our guys don't shoot it well but we weren't even close, like we had never seen these rims before, never.
Maybe he's onto something.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jan 3, 2018 14:54:51 GMT -5
No kidding--have heard that a few times before. It's a simple fact: Holy Cross is not a horrible three point shooting team, but it had a horrible shooting night last night--these things happen. If we were to play this game 10 times I'd lay 20-1 odds that we'd not go 2/24 in any of those 10 games. We'd likely make 7-8-9 of 24 a half dozen times. Or maybe we should have stopped chucking so many 3s and pounded the ball inside to our Center who is shooting 68.5% on FGs this season. We are 3-10 and just lost to an awful 3-10 team who has one other win against a D1 team this year (#281 Quinnipiac). There are no excuses. If 3s aren't falling, DON'T SHOOT THEM. Then again, making adjustments is not something this program does anymore.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Jan 3, 2018 14:59:40 GMT -5
We are shooting a very good 53.1% 2PT FG this season (74th nationally), and are 33.3% 3PT FG (235th). Last night we were 16-30 2PT FG -- probably should have kept taking the ball to the basket.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Jan 3, 2018 15:01:52 GMT -5
I agree 100% that we should get the ball to JF as often as is possible and have so stated many times on the board. My goal would be 12 FGA/40 minutes or 9 or 10 shots per game. Aa far as the "hot hand" or, in this case the "cold hand"--here's a link to a Wikipedia review of the subject: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot-hand_fallacy
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Post by ncaam on Jan 3, 2018 15:04:21 GMT -5
I’m not on to something; I’m nailing it.
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Post by ncaam on Jan 3, 2018 15:05:42 GMT -5
I agree 100% that we should get the ball to JF as often as is possible and have so stated many times on the board. My goal would be 12 FGA/40 minutes or 9 or 10 shots per game. Aa far as the "hot hand" or, in this case the "cold hand"--here's a link to a Wikipedia review of the subject: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hot-hand_fallacyTell the frosh to stop chucking 3 from the NBA line.
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Post by HCFC45 on Jan 3, 2018 15:33:39 GMT -5
I’m not on to something; I’m nailing it. IIRC this (shoot around before a game) has been discussed previously on this board. Again, IIRC, they do not have a shoot around. Their shoot around is done during warmups just prior to a game. Philosophy is that you have only so many bullets to use, so don't waste them... !
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Post by possum on Jan 3, 2018 15:38:38 GMT -5
KC is supposed to be our best player and in my opinion needs to score 15 points a game for us to be successful. To date he is taking an average of 7 shots a game, CG gas taken 45 more shots than KC so far, is this a function of KC's lack of aggression or the fault of the system for not getting him enough shots.
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Post by hchoops on Jan 3, 2018 16:19:35 GMT -5
Imo the health of KC and consequently his lack of aggression
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Post by ncaam on Jan 3, 2018 16:36:35 GMT -5
I’m not on to something; I’m nailing it. IIRC this (shoot around before a game) has been discussed previously on this board. Again, IIRC, they do not have a shoot around. Their shoot around is done during warmups just prior to a game. Philosophy is that you have only so many bullets to use, so don't waste them... ! How many schools do it that way? Our guys went into an unknown cave, dark and foreboding. Needed a shoot around. Lazy coaching?
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 3, 2018 18:48:35 GMT -5
Coaching! If coach has given up on the team, what do you expect a young team to do. I don't know of any coach who has done that so I have no way to answer your fantasy question. It reads like a question, but with incorrect punctuation. With such a confusing presentation (and poor grammar) what is a reader to do?
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Post by cfrivals on Jan 3, 2018 19:43:46 GMT -5
Well, thank you English major for correcting my paper!
This program needs adjustments that the coaching staff needs to address. Losing games (especially freshman) will lose the team. Coach needs to step up. Sorry, no different than what we all pounded SK, and MB for. No mulligans here!
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Post by rgs318 on Jan 4, 2018 8:15:34 GMT -5
Well, thank you English major for correcting my paper! This program needs adjustments that the coaching staff needs to address. Losing games (especially freshman) will lose the team. Coach needs to step up. Sorry, no different than what we all pounded SK, and MB for. No mulligans here! FYI, I was never an English major and your post is hardly a "paper." Interesting assumption on your part, though.
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Post by HC1843 on Jan 4, 2018 11:36:55 GMT -5
Those continuing to state unequivocally that Carmody should not and will not be fired despite the product he’s putting on the floor continuing to get worse and worse remind me of those who said the same about Milan. It is painfully obvious that the program needs to rip off the band-aid and change its course as soon as possible, which would be this March. Bring back Willard and Blaney to run the search so we will have someone in charge of the hiring process who actually knows whether basketballs are blown up or stuffed, and bring in a new coach who will have energy, focus on recruiting and player development, and utilize a system that will maximize our talent. Bill Carmody seems like he’s a nice guy (who may even be relieved to move on from this gig) but he was just a terrible, terrible fit for our program when he was hired. If nothing else, it is reassuring to know you thought HC70 was an idiot during the Milan Brown era too. Five years of the insufferable crap.... That being said, and let me know if you have heard this before, BC gets all his guys before we can judge him....maybe even a year or two more. The team is struggling, but, as Ray eloquently points out, for far diffeent reasons, including, among other things, that he was left holding the Milan Brown Era bag....that is a deeper issue than you care to admit. Carry on. Cheers.
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Post by HC1843 on Jan 4, 2018 11:41:08 GMT -5
IIRC this (shoot around before a game) has been discussed previously on this board. Again, IIRC, they do not have a shoot around. Their shoot around is done during warmups just prior to a game. Philosophy is that you have only so many bullets to use, so don't waste them... ! How many schools do it that way? Our guys went into an unknown cave, dark and foreboding. Needed a shoot around. Lazy coaching? Oh, stop with this crap. Lazy coaching....yeesh. at least BBC offers something thoughtful (at times ;-) ) when posting. The worst part of it is that you would not have the balls to tell BC that to his face. It is cowardly. Cheers.
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Post by sader1970 on Jan 4, 2018 11:50:59 GMT -5
Any or all of us that post alternate coaching suggestions would be hesitant to say these things directly to CWC (or Milan or SK or RW) because the presumption is that the obvious rejoinder is "I am the coach, your aren't and I have been coaching X years and you haven't." And all of that would be true and not a question of not having the cojones.
But that's why folks with all levels of basketball expertise (expert to "no-nothings") can weigh in here. Crossports is a vehicle for venting.
I'm not really trying to defend ncaam or anyone in particular but having an different opinion than the way CWC is coaching and saying so here is not necessarily lacking intestinal fortitude.
I have not had a lot of direct conversations with CWC, perhaps 2-3, but I have not a shred of doubt what his reaction to alternative coaching suggestions would get you.
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Post by HC92 on Jan 4, 2018 11:52:12 GMT -5
Those continuing to state unequivocally that Carmody should not and will not be fired despite the product he’s putting on the floor continuing to get worse and worse remind me of those who said the same about Milan. It is painfully obvious that the program needs to rip off the band-aid and change its course as soon as possible, which would be this March. Bring back Willard and Blaney to run the search so we will have someone in charge of the hiring process who actually knows whether basketballs are blown up or stuffed, and bring in a new coach who will have energy, focus on recruiting and player development, and utilize a system that will maximize our talent. Bill Carmody seems like he’s a nice guy (who may even be relieved to move on from this gig) but he was just a terrible, terrible fit for our program when he was hired. If nothing else, it is reassuring to know you thought HC70 was an idiot during the Milan Brown era too. Five years of the insufferable crap.... That being said, and let me know if you have heard this before, BC gets all his guys before we can judge him....maybe even a year or two more. The team is struggling, but, as Ray eloquently points out, for far diffeent reasons, including, among other things, that he was left holding the Milan Brown Era bag....that is a deeper issue than you care to admit. Carry on. Cheers. Not for nothing, but the Milan Brown Era bag of Champion, Malachi, Green, et al is the only reason we have gotten any enjoyment out of HC basketball in the Bill Carmody era.
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Post by possum on Jan 4, 2018 12:29:21 GMT -5
I think Carmody's whiff on the sophomore class has a lot more to do with where we are today than what Brown left behind. How much better would last years team have been with a freshmen class that produced 10-15 points a game and reduced the minutes the seniors had to play, and would this years team be better with a productive experienced sophomore class contributing and limiting some of the minutes the freshmen are having to play.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Jan 4, 2018 12:40:17 GMT -5
If nothing else, it is reassuring to know you thought HC70 was an idiot during the Milan Brown era too. Five years of the insufferable crap.... That being said, and let me know if you have heard this before, BC gets all his guys before we can judge him....maybe even a year or two more. The team is struggling, but, as Ray eloquently points out, for far diffeent reasons, including, among other things, that he was left holding the Milan Brown Era bag....that is a deeper issue than you care to admit. Carry on. Cheers. Not for nothing, but the Milan Brown Era bag of Champion, Malachi, Green, et al is the only reason we have gotten any enjoyment out of HC basketball in the Bill Carmody era. Nails it. Carmody would need to make a big leap forward to recruit on Milan's level at HC. Sad!
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