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Post by rgs318 on Oct 2, 2018 12:43:06 GMT -5
That catch and run was a thing of beauty. I pray we see more of that sort of play by HC in the coming games.
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Post by sader1970 on Oct 2, 2018 13:08:19 GMT -5
I was not the one who made the criticism on the first series but while that was the beginning of one game, it was made in the context of the larger body of work - a half a season of games.
As I implied earlier, we had someone previously who did not do a good job calling plays in the past and was not fired mid-season.
Just think adjustments should and must be made in our offensive play calling. If the OC is intransigent, someone else needs to step in soon,
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Post by Pakachoag Phreek on Oct 2, 2018 14:31:31 GMT -5
Of the assistant coaches, four are on the offense. The OC most recently was a RB coach and a run game coordinator. The RB coach was previously a defensive secondary coach, the position he played in college. The WR coach (and pass game coordinator) was previously a WR coach at URI, and a WR at HC. The OL coach has previous experience as an OL coach.
Five assistant coaches for the defense, and a tenth coach who is primarily the special teams coordination, his previous coaching position.
IMO, it is too late in the season to change(switch) horses, particularly as I don't see an obvious candidate.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 2, 2018 16:28:57 GMT -5
Of the assistant coaches, four are on the offense. The OC most recently was a RB coach and a run game coordinator. The RB coach was previously a defensive secondary coach, the position he played in college. The WR coach (and pass game coordinator) was previously a WR coach at URI, and a WR at HC. The OL coach has previous experience as an OL coach. Five assistant coaches for the defense, and a tenth coach who is primarily the special teams coordination, his previous coaching position. IMO, it is too late in the season to change(switch) horses, particularly as I don't see an obvious candidate. Why can't an offensive line coach help Ari (passing coordinator) with the run game? The run game is focused on having a good understanding of blocking schemes and Chris Smith has that. He is a former Center at HC and was a smart football player.
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Post by purplepig on Oct 4, 2018 18:59:22 GMT -5
Pretty rough on the HC all things considered. Look around the league. Georgetown and Laffy are D3 quality. Bucknell is not far ahead and Fordham has fallen off a cliff. Lehigh is not too bad and the Crusaders might play for second place. Colgate keeps doing it. Somehow they found the secret sauce.
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Oct 4, 2018 19:21:05 GMT -5
I think you may be overly pessimistic as far as the "D3 quality" statement......
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Post by purplepig on Oct 4, 2018 19:26:13 GMT -5
I think you may be overly pessimistic as far as the "D3 quality" statement...... A little hyperbole? Yes. Still the Crusaders are in the top half of the league. Lehigh might pull things together but nobody will challenge Colgate.
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Post by sader1970 on Oct 4, 2018 20:09:47 GMT -5
They may end up in the top half but considering we are 0-2 in the Patriot League right now, we aren't there yet.
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Post by nycrusader2010 on Oct 4, 2018 22:51:41 GMT -5
As far as "being in the top half of the league", lets remember that we just lost to a horrendous Bucknell team in front of a Fitton homecoming crowd.
There's no one in the PL that were incapable of losing to at this moment.
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Post by crusader12 on Oct 5, 2018 7:20:57 GMT -5
I think you may be overly pessimistic as far as the "D3 quality" statement...... A little hyperbole? Yes. Still the Crusaders are in the top half of the league. Lehigh might pull things together but nobody will challenge Colgate. Top half of the league!? I just hope they can win a game in the PL this year!
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Post by purplepig on Oct 5, 2018 7:46:49 GMT -5
A little hyperbole? Yes. Still the Crusaders are in the top half of the league. Lehigh might pull things together but nobody will challenge Colgate. Top half of the league!? I just hope they can win a game in the PL this year! True. Four teams may feel that way right now. Lehigh will beat somebody despite their defense. As for the rest, there is some drama in futility.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Oct 5, 2018 7:48:32 GMT -5
I think you may be overly pessimistic as far as the "D3 quality" statement...... A little hyperbole? Yes. Still the Crusaders are in the top half of the league. Lehigh might pull things together but nobody will challenge Colgate. We lost at home to Bucknell. We could finish anywhere from second to right ahead of Georgetown.
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Post by rickii on Oct 10, 2018 11:38:32 GMT -5
Let me first say that I am a big supporter of the selection of Coach Chesney. Over time with his track record and ability to recruit, I truly believe that he will put the program on a winning course.
I attended the BC game and have watched every other game on Stadium TV.
In my opinion, although this team clearly lacks talent and depth at several positions, they play with a great deal of enthusiasm.....especially on defense.
However, the number of missed assignments, the very unimaginative play calling, and the numerous penalties (always at seemingly key moments) tells me that there is something missing in the coaching.
The team seems to lack playing discipline.
What do others think?. Am I being too harsh?
Agree with the first opinion.
Your second opinion conflicts with the first. If you think this team lacks talent and depth at several positions, how can you expect low missed assignments and a more varied play calling ? That doesn't make sense, does it ?
Clearly, Chesney is trying to play ball control and work the clock with limited personnel.
As to you being too harsh....not really. Your simply being a fan who desparately wants results sooner than can reasonably be expected.
It's not easy having patience....particularly after what had to be endured over the past 5-6 seasons.
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Post by dharry13 on Oct 10, 2018 12:29:11 GMT -5
Why are people so quick to say limited personnel on offense? Many young lineman played last year and are getting time this year with multiple scholarship offers (Bowler, Brekke, Foley). They have all of their WR's back from last year with a ton of experience. Yes, they had Pujols last year, but they also had to get open for Pujols to get them the ball. Both of their top RB's are back with two Freshman who were pretty highly regarded.
I'm sorry, I just don't see the limited personnel argument on offense, just because the scores have been low. QB is a problem - no doubt about it - I can only speak to the two that have played this year and it's a problem. Yes, it's the most important position on the field, which continues to lead me to say give Degenhardt a chance. My argument for that is - yes, the coaches watch them every day and know better than us - but they also saw enough from Clifford and Wade to play them, and whatever they saw in practice hasn't translated to the field. So who knows, maybe if Degenhardt plays he proves them wrong. At 1-5 how could it possibly get worse than Wade's 1st half against Dartmouth. These kids are someone's son, so I don't take those words lightly, but they haven't earned the playing time at this point.
I continue to believe the offense is going to have lasting effects on the current roster if it continues at this pace regarding potential transfers. Who knows, maybe that would be good because the current coaches don't like the talent pool they want to run their offense, but I just don't buy the limited personnel on offense argument. Just haven't had the guy to get them the ball so far and honestly the play calling has just been flat out poor and predictable.
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Post by timholycross on Oct 10, 2018 12:51:55 GMT -5
I think the blocking has regressed from recent years Maybe that's coaching, maybe it's athletic skills, maybe it's strength. Maybe all three.
I do remember one play in the BC game where all a HC OL had to do was block or even move himself in the way of a BC safety and it would have been a 10-15 yard gain for the receiver (of a quick pass in the backfield). No one else from either team close to the play. The OL couldn't do it, horrible footwork. I bet the coaches watching the films could point out a boatload of similar plays.
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Post by Ignutz on Oct 10, 2018 15:55:17 GMT -5
Is this a coaching point? Over the past few years, and carrying over to this year, it appears to me that most of our ball-carriers - whether a running back coming out of the backfield or a receiver who has caught a pass, seem to brace for the hit that’s about to be delivered. The solid ball-carriers whom we’ve faced, however, in similar about-to-be-hit situations, appear to initiate contact, thereby either breaking a tackle or gaining an additional yard or two. Are we soft? Is aggressiveness not being coached? Am I seeing something that isn’t there?
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Post by 6sader7 on Oct 10, 2018 19:41:23 GMT -5
Chris Smith is a good Offensive Line coach.
That said, our plays are unimaginative to the point that any defensive front 7/8, based on the film they've seen to date, pretty much know where and how they can tee off against us. That's not a fun place to be in as an offensive lineman. What's really not fun is when you don't come in at half and make adjustments, ie - Look, the defensive end is basically in a 4i at this point, let's start running some outside zone, toss sweep, jet sweep, etc. If you don't do that and continue to run inside runs that same defensive end is going to tee off every single time and beat that guy across his face, etc. This is one example but hopefully this paints the picture - My point is it doesn't seem like a lot of play calling adjustments are being made or capitalized on throughout the game. It's like we're playing checkers on offense.
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Post by 6sader7 on Oct 10, 2018 20:44:36 GMT -5
Chris Smith is a good Offensive Line coach. That said, our plays are unimaginative to the point that any defensive front 7/8, based on the film they've seen to date, pretty much know where and how they can tee off against us. That's not a fun place to be in as an offensive lineman. What's really not fun is when you don't come in at half and make adjustments, ie - Look, the defensive in is basically in a 4i at this point, let's start running some outside zone, toss sweep, jet sweep, etc. If you don't do that and continue to run inside runs that same defensive end is going to tee off every single time and beat that guy across his face, etc. This is one example but hopefully this paints the picture - My point is it doesn't seem like a lot of play calling adjustments are being made or capitalized on throughout the game. It's like we're playing checkers on offense. I mentioned at "halftime" in the above, but really this should be happening from series to series.
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Post by Sons of Vaval on Oct 12, 2018 21:22:36 GMT -5
That was a really, really poor final six minutes to that game.
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