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Post by Non Alum Dave on Mar 20, 2019 15:59:06 GMT -5
Coming off an 11-21, 4-14 season, there is a report that UMass has fired all 3 assistant coaches.
There are a lot of exits from UMass this spring. If I am keeping track correctly, the number of UMass player transfers out now exceeds their number of coaches dismissed 4-3.
UMass Player Transfers Out (4) Luwane Pipkins Unique McLean Keiran Hayward Curtis Cobb
UMass Coaches Dismissed (3) Rasheen Davis Peter Gash Cliff Warren
Hadn't Cobb earlier transferred IN? What the heck is going on there?
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 20, 2019 17:52:54 GMT -5
There are a lot of exits from UMass this spring. If I am keeping track correctly, the number of UMass player transfers out now exceeds their number of coaches dismissed 4-3.
UMass Player Transfers Out (4) Luwane Pipkins Unique McLean Keiran Hayward Curtis Cobb
UMass Coaches Dismissed (3) Rasheen Davis Peter Gash Cliff Warren
Hadn't Cobb earlier transferred IN? What the heck is going on there? He played 2 years at Fairfield and then sat a year before playing for UMass this current season. He scored 46 points one game for Fairfield, but just looking at his numbers he does not appear to be a world beater. Will he be getting his degree this Spring? If so, this is a way of getting a year of grad school paid for. If he signs on with someone else as an undergrad, then sits a year, he'll turn 25 at the end of his senior season.
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Post by bison137 on Mar 20, 2019 18:00:35 GMT -5
Hadn't Cobb earlier transferred IN? What the heck is going on there? If he signs on with someone else as an undergrad, then sits a year, he'll turn 25 at the end of his senior season. If he even gets to play a "senior season". Since it would be his 6th year, he would need an NCAA waiver. Given that both of his "lost" seasons were due to his own decisions, it is not a slam dunk that he would get a waiver. I'm guessing he will graduate by the end of summer.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Mar 21, 2019 15:54:00 GMT -5
Jamion Christian reportedly leaving Siena after 1 year for GW....Siena board going nuts.
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Post by rf1 on Mar 21, 2019 17:05:29 GMT -5
Jamion Christian reportedly leaving Siena after 1 year for GW....Siena board going nuts.
Just one year and a record of only 17-16. Total slap in the face of Siena and its fans. Jamion is a true mercenary following the money with little care for anyone else.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 21, 2019 17:13:14 GMT -5
Wait If you were offered a higher paying job in a more prestigious league in a more desirable city, you would turn it down just because you were only at your previous job for one year ?
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Post by Ray on Mar 21, 2019 17:55:14 GMT -5
Wait If you were offered a higher paying job in a more prestigious league in a more desirable city, you would turn it down just because you were only at your previous job for one year ? I'm on the more nuanced side of this as well. It's unfortunate for Siena, but doesn't necessarily mean Christian is the worst person in the world, either.
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Post by rf1 on Mar 21, 2019 19:09:03 GMT -5
Wait If you were offered a higher paying job in a more prestigious league in a more desirable city, you would turn it down just because you were only at your previous job for one year ?
Isn't really them same as you or I. Neither of us likely recruited many others in our first year to our employer on the promise that we would be there for them. As I alluded to in my post, this ultimately isn't just all about Christian (although it looks like he may have acted that way).
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Post by coachrt on Mar 21, 2019 19:15:39 GMT -5
Stop with he's the worst person in the world talk. Its the nature of the business. Coaches are out for themselves and players are out for themselves (look at the number of transfers). If you can provide a better life for your family then of course in most cases you are going to take it. Coaching is a business you need to seize opportunities when they are presented. Don't give me the sob story of what about the student-athletes he recruited. They know the score and what is at stake. The student-athlete will be just fine. In today's world there is very little loyalty so you better look out for number 1.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 21, 2019 19:16:41 GMT -5
Coaches are always recruiting players, no matter how long they are at a school. Granted that if he did make the promise that you allege,that was not a wise decision. But recruits have to know that coaches leave for greener pastures all the time
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Mar 21, 2019 19:24:01 GMT -5
I suppose a guy like Christian can say "hey, look what happened to Sean Kearney"
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Mar 21, 2019 19:50:31 GMT -5
Course he doesn't have to sit out a year, either.....
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Mar 22, 2019 3:08:32 GMT -5
Siena fan: "He promised Mayhem and now he delivered."
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Post by unhfan on Mar 22, 2019 4:31:19 GMT -5
How could one turn down GW to stay at Siena? Understandably, surely, money played an important role in his decision. What's wrong with that? Maybe, he believed that there was a greater upside at GW. So, he grabbed the opportunity. Or, maybe, he did not like the Siena gig. We don't know the full story. Oh, ye' of pure heart, "Judge not... "LoveHC Maybe if you read his quote you see he’s from the area, has family in the area, and always dreamed of coaching back home. I don’t fault the guy for making that decision. Good luck to him.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 22, 2019 7:37:22 GMT -5
Avery Johnson out at Bama. Probably be hired by a TV network in record time...was always good at that. Great voice too.
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Post by Tom on Mar 22, 2019 8:04:46 GMT -5
Regarding Sienna, I have an issue in general with the whole contract thing. I assume that there was some sort of escape clause built into his contract, but it does seem less than honorable to agree to make an agreement for four or five years and then exercise an escape clause before the ink dries.
Note with respect to Coach Kearney: to the best of my knowledge, HC lived up to their end of that contract
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 22, 2019 9:42:55 GMT -5
Regarding Sienna, I have an issue in general with the whole contract thing. I assume that there was some sort of escape clause built into his contract, but it does seem less than honorable to agree to make an agreement for four or five years and then exercise an escape clause before the ink dries. Note with respect to Coach Kearney: to the best of my knowledge, HC lived up to their end of that contract I believe Christian has a $1M buyout. If anything, it’s on the AD for not attaching a higher buyout to his contract, or at least a higher buyout in the first couple years of the contract.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 22, 2019 9:58:53 GMT -5
Bryce Drew out at Vandy 0-18 will do it every time
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Post by purplehaze on Mar 22, 2019 10:18:17 GMT -5
Carm Maciarello rumored to move from interim to head coach today at Siena in a quick move to regain stability in Loudonville
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Post by bison137 on Mar 22, 2019 10:22:36 GMT -5
Bryce Drew out at Vandy 0-18 will do it every time Yes, unless you were coaching at the old Army. Jim Crews once went 5-51 in PL play over four years, including one winless season. Yet he still kept his job. It took an unacceptable physical action directed at a player to finally earn him his walking papers.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 22, 2019 10:24:07 GMT -5
I'm more interested in why Jamion Christian became such a hot candidate than him leaving after just one year at Siena.
-He has a career winning percentage of .515 -His highest KenPom team ranking in his 7 years as a head coach is 209 -His average KP Strength of Schedule ranking is 287 -He only has 5 total wins against teams in the KenPom` top 150, including only 3 wins vs the top 150 over the last 6 years
Good for him for capitalizing on being a hot name in the coaching carousel, but I question whether GW could have found someone better (and someone who they wouldn't have to pay a $1M buyout to get).
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Post by hchoops on Mar 22, 2019 10:24:31 GMT -5
Bryce Drew out at Vandy 0-18 will do it every time Yes, unless you were coaching at the old Army. Jim Crews once went 5-51 in PL play over four years, including one winless season. Yet he still kept his job. It took an unacceptable physical action directed at a player to finally earn him his walking papers. and eventually coach St. Louis
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Post by bison137 on Mar 22, 2019 10:25:46 GMT -5
Carm Maciarello rumored to move from interim to head coach today at Siena in a quick move to regain stability in Loudonville He is a very good recruiter and has Siena/Albany roots - but has never been a head coach at any level. It will be interesting to see how it works out. When McCaffery left, Siena quickly promoted his top assistant, Mitch Bonaguoro, instead of conducting a major search. That turned out to be a total disaster.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 22, 2019 10:26:12 GMT -5
Bryce Drew out at Vandy 0-18 will do it every time Bill Carmody went 2-14 in the Big10 at Northwestern in 06-07, and then followed that up with 1-17 in 07-08, but still kept his job.
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Post by rickii on Mar 22, 2019 10:47:48 GMT -5
Regarding Sienna, I have an issue in general with the whole contract thing. I assume that there was some sort of escape clause built into his contract, but it does seem less than honorable to agree to make an agreement for four or five years and then exercise an escape clause before the ink dries. Note with respect to Coach Kearney: to the best of my knowledge, HC lived up to their end of that contract I believe Christian has a $1M buyout. If anything, it’s on the AD for not attaching a higher buyout to his contract, or at least a higher buyout in the first couple years of the contract. And, if you really wanted him, run the risk of losing him ?
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