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Post by res on Mar 22, 2019 11:43:15 GMT -5
He is a very good recruiter and has Siena/Albany roots - but has never been a head coach at any level. It will be interesting to see how it works out. When McCaffery left, Siena quickly promoted his top assistant, Mitch Bonaguoro, instead of conducting a major search. That turned out to be a total disaster. Quite possibly a move to keep Pickett from leaving, but as you imply, a risky move.
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 22, 2019 11:55:13 GMT -5
I believe Christian has a $1M buyout. If anything, it’s on the AD for not attaching a higher buyout to his contract, or at least a higher buyout in the first couple years of the contract. And, if you really wanted him, run the risk of losing him ? Arguably better than just having him bolt after one 17-16 season. Unless Mount St. Mary's was paying him a lot more than they used to pay Milan Brown, he would have been turning down a significant raise to stay at a place where it would have been a lot more difficult to make a jump to a job like GW. (THE MOUNT went 7-22 this year under coach e)
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Post by nhteamer on Mar 22, 2019 12:26:01 GMT -5
Best available coach
Mike Lonergan
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Post by hcgrad94 on Mar 22, 2019 13:53:00 GMT -5
Anger issues
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Post by timholycross on Mar 22, 2019 17:40:07 GMT -5
Good discussion question regarding Umass.
Who's the worst program (currently) to make the Final 4 in the 64 team era? Might be UMass*, George Mason says "hello" too. Any others in contention?
*for argument's sake, let's assume they went and the appearance was not vacated.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 22, 2019 19:40:03 GMT -5
Disagree about mason They did lose in the semis by 15 to eventual champ Florida, but so did UCLA in the final by 16 That was Florida’s first of two in a row a dominant team Mason did beat a first seed UConn in the regional final
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Post by KY Crusader 75 on Mar 22, 2019 20:50:03 GMT -5
I was thinking the question referred to "programs" not teams, as in what school that was not a top team season-after-season made the Final Four?
Perhaps Loyola Chicago would be a solid qualifier on that criterion
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Post by nhteamer on Mar 23, 2019 7:22:27 GMT -5
Good discussion question regarding Umass. Who's the worst program (currently) to make the Final 4 in the 64 team era? Might be UMass*, George Mason says "hello" too. Any others in contention? *for argument's sake, let's assume they went and the appearance was not vacated. PB Baloney HE WINS
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Post by nhteamer on Mar 23, 2019 7:24:30 GMT -5
OOPS! I quoted wrong thread but same response PC Baloney HE WINS
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Post by hcgrad94 on Mar 23, 2019 7:40:07 GMT -5
Well given that he hasn't coached in 3 years not sure he's winning....unless it's in a Mike Rice kind of a way. I'm not saying that what he did was so egregious, but in todays world you are either smart enough and have enough self-control to adapt or you go down and don't come back up.
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Post by Non Alum Dave on Mar 23, 2019 9:19:42 GMT -5
And, if you really wanted him, run the risk of losing him ? (THE MOUNT went 7-22 this year under coach e) Cute use of the lower case e; wish I was that clever. Of course, starting virtually from scratch with 9 freshmen and 7 sophomores (no Jrs-Srs) played no part in the record, I'm certain.
First years in D-1 are funny. For instance:
Bob McKillop: 4-24 George Blaney: 13-12 (Dartmouth); HC 9-17 John Beilien: 10-18 John Calipari: 10-18 James Jones: 7-20 Dean Smith: 8-9 Pat Flannery: 13-14 Matt Langel: 8-22
Your favorite coach, on the other hand, went 24-4 in year 1, but that was different, of course.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 23, 2019 9:43:31 GMT -5
Coach Mike K—11-14 Ralph Willard—14-14 Kevin Willard-12-20 Jay Wright —12-18
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Post by bison137 on Mar 23, 2019 9:56:16 GMT -5
Coach Mike K—11-14 Ralph Willard—14-14 Kevin Willard-12-20 Jay Wright —12-18 And Coach K's Army record would have been worse had he not scheduled eight game with D3-level teams (Upsala, Johnstown, Merrimack, Merchant Marine, etc.). His final year, before he got the Duke job, they were 9-17 - but 4-17 vs D1 teams.
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Post by timholycross on Mar 24, 2019 14:19:50 GMT -5
I was thinking the question referred to "programs" not teams, as in what school that was not a top team season-after-season made the Final Four? Perhaps Loyola Chicago would be a solid qualifier on that criterion I meant which program was in worse shape NOW, not the year after their appearance. Of course in Loyola s case to that would be one and the same and I think at this point UMass and Mason would kill for Loyola s 2018-19 NIT season
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Post by hc87 on Mar 24, 2019 14:50:21 GMT -5
64 team pool started in '85 or so, correct? I was thinking Indiana St, DePaul (who improved this year undah New Bedford native Leitao), UPenn...all from 1979 though.
UMass has to be right there for how the once mighty have fallen...
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Post by hchoops on Mar 24, 2019 15:01:39 GMT -5
Tulane hires Georgia State’s Hunter
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Post by timholycross on Mar 24, 2019 15:05:20 GMT -5
Yeah, 84 or 85. Looking back it's between the aforementioned two and UNLV. At least that's the way I see it. The 70s certainly have a more diverse set of schools compared to today, 87 touched on a couple.
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Post by hcgrad94 on Mar 24, 2019 15:52:46 GMT -5
64 team pool started in '85 or so, correct? I was thinking Indiana St, DePaul (who improved this year undah New Bedford native Leitao), UPenn...all from 1979 though. UMass has to be right there for how the once mighty have fallen... Umass was mighty for 5 years under Calipari other than that a bad program.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 24, 2019 15:55:12 GMT -5
Don’t forget his nickname, Cheater John Or Vacated John ( a couple of meanings here)
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Post by hcnation on Mar 24, 2019 16:23:49 GMT -5
Don’t forget his nickname, Cheater John Or Vacated John ( a couple of meanings here) What do you call Roy Williams?
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Post by hchoops on Mar 24, 2019 16:35:58 GMT -5
No one else has had 2 final four berths vacated in disgrace
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Post by hc87 on Mar 24, 2019 17:31:37 GMT -5
UMass has been an odd program (in my lifetime anyway)....a very good regional team playing in the YanCon undah mostly Jack Leaman I believe in the 1960s and 70s. The Dr J years obviously but also some pretty good teams before and after. Kinda disappeared when they joined the Eastern 8 in the late 1970s throughout most of the 80s. Reached national prominence undah Cal in the 90s and most of his successors have done progressively worse there.
Very much up and down....collectively more down than up I suppose from say 1965-current day.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 24, 2019 18:58:26 GMT -5
Wyking Jones fired at Cal
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Post by bringbackcaro on Mar 24, 2019 22:00:22 GMT -5
Alabama and Avery Johnson announce that they “mutually part ways.”
This is exactly the type of announcement that HC should have made with Carmody.
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Post by hchoops on Mar 26, 2019 12:04:01 GMT -5
Rose of BYU retires
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